Posted on 12/14/2014 11:57:21 AM PST by ealgeone
The reason for this article is to determine if the worship/veneration given to Mary by the catholic church is justified from a Biblical perspective. This will be evaluated using the Biblical standard and not man’s standard.
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“No, He gave us none of those things.”
He sure did.
“Those corruptions of Holy Scripture were devised and added to Christianity by wicked men who either knew what they were doing or were deceived by their carnal inclinations.”
Christ didn’t corrupt Christianity nor did the Apostles. The things you speak of as corruption are part and parcel of Christianity as historic Churches know.
“(I can read their minds by seeing the nature of the fruit they bore: Corrupt rotten fruit.)”
Protestant sects are rotten fruit in themselves and look at what they have produced:
“Hence Protestants are obliged to cut their ninth commandment out of their Decalogue. “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour” must go, must disappear; their position requires the sacrifice. The substance, the force, the edge of their Tradition is slander. As soon as ever they disabuse their minds of what is false, and grasp only what is true,—I do not say they at once become Catholics; I do not say they lose their dislike to our religion, or their misgivings about its working;—but I say this, either they become tolerant towards us, and cease to hate us personally,—or, at least, supposing they cannot shake off old associations, and are prejudiced and hostile as before, still they find they have not the means of communicating their own feelings to others. To Protestantism False Witness is the principle of propagation. There are indeed able men who can make a striking case out of anything or nothing, as great painters give a meaning and a unity to the commonest bush, and pond, and paling and stile: genius can do without facts, as well as create them; but few possess the gift. Taking things as they are, and judging of them by the long run, one may securely say, that the anti-Catholic Tradition could not be kept alive, would die of exhaustion, without a continual supply of fable.” (John Henry Newman, Lecture 4. True Testimony Insufficient for the Protestant View)
No, Vlad; He did not.
He gave her to John.
NOWHERE is there any evidence that John handed her off to anyone else.
26 When Jesus therefore had seen his mother and the disciple standing whom he loved, he saith to his mother: Woman, behold thy son.
27 After that, he saith to the disciple: Behold thy mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own.
Dracula can tell the difference!
“No He didn’t. Only through the corrupting of word meanings does the Catholic Church assign the name “priest”. The truth is that the apostles called all believers “priests”.”
And we are all priests - just as all of Israel was a priestly nation (Exodus 19:6). And none of that changed the fact that God had a select priesthood as well. He still does.
“The Greek NEVER uses that word to describe the leadership other than the leadership of Christ.”
It doesn’t have to. Christianity uses Greek, not Greek using Christianity.
http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/where-in-the-new-testament-are-priests-mentioned
http://www.catholic.com/blog/tim-staples/is-there-a-new-covenant-ministerial-priesthood
http://www.ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/PRIEST3.htm
http://www.catholic-convert.com/wp-content/uploads/Documents/priesthood.pdf
We use differing words today so the modern mind can understand.
“He gave her to John.”
Exactly. John, the youngest Apostle, the one whom Jesus loved, and the only one not to die as a martyr, represents the Church.
“NOWHERE is there any evidence that John handed her off to anyone else.”
Of course not!
You just LOVE playin' this tangent game; don't you!
If you accept Jesus, you accept Him, Crucifixion and all.
So THAT is why those seven CATHOLIC CHURCHES mentioned in the revelation to John are in ruins today!
Call no man Father...
Which was the result of another RC posting of propaganda. They put them up so they can be shot down by the grace of God. Let me know the next one.
I've always wondered:
Why didn't the apostles cut some meat off of Jesus, as He hung there, and eat it?
vlad, you and I see things differently. You and I are discussing two different understandings of who Jesus is.
Until you become born again of the Spirit, you simply cannot know where I’m coming from in these posts on FR.
Not being an RC, I well understand your implacable position as a defender on FR of all things Roman Catholic, regardless whether your explanations make sense or not.
I also know your demonstrations of what you ascribe as truth has not always been compatible or in line with the Holy Bible except via your own (RCC) private interpretations...as is the case with all (Christian) cults.
Time for you and me to break it off on FR?
Only in the fully convinced mind of a rabid Catholic.
Once again; there is ZERO evidence for this grandiose claim.
If you accept Catholicism, you accept the pope (Yeah, the bad ones, too), dead saints, Mary supposedly in Heaven, relics, skeltons with jewels encrusted, Holy Water, ring kissing, popes that kiss Qurans, The Spanish inquisition, candles by the wagon load and Mother Superiors.
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