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Posted on 09/11/2014 11:19:06 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
Pope Francis has been a breath of fresh air for many Catholics seeking greater liberty and a growing concern for conservative Christians who take issue with his comments about homosexuality and other cultural issues.
But the pontiff's latest statement is sparking an uproar from believers around the world. Pope Francis sent a tweet Tuesday that absolutely violates the truth of Scripture:
"The Christian who does not feel that the Virgin Mary is his or her mother is an orphan," Pope Francis tweeted.
As of the time I wrote this column it had been retweeted about 4,000 times and many of the responses were in appropriately unkind. It's not appropriate to attack the pope for his beliefs. It's more appropriate to share the truth...
Boy are you going to be surprised! Protestants teach from the Bible and we have our own copies. We do not have to listen to false teachings. The Bible has the plan of salvation clearly taught. Even children can understand it. It is a shame that more do not read it.
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If you've been baptized and believe that Christ is your Savior,I fixed it. Well thanks goodness for the "impefectly" part.than you are united to the Catholic Church, which is the Body of Christ but imperfectly, then you are a part of the BIBLICAL Body of Christ.
To be "perfectly" united to the Catholic denomination and it's strange Mormon, JW and Islamic etc like "we are the only true religion" apparent belief would make me an apostate to Christianity.
The Catholic Church (the denomination known as Catholicism) is not the Body of Christ.
Making the Catholic church the ONLY way to a relationship with Jesus Christ is anathema to all that Jesus taught.
Following in the footsteps of the Pharisees will not help you have that personal born again relationship with Jesus.
Christianity is based on a relationship with God through Jesus, not a denomination touted (by some of the posters here on the RF) as the ONLY way to be part of the Body of Christ (Oh except "imperfectly" oh my that is so unBiblical!)
That's why Jesus came, to get the simple message across that the Exalted Ones missed by focusing on themselves and their "righteousness" and "perfection" instead of keeping their eyes on God and His Messiah.
It seems to have gone full circle.
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I don't know what the Pope tweets -- I never read his tweets, and, frankly, I don't know anybody who does (besides this former Mormon, Jennifer LeClaire, who now claims to be a prophet herself just like Mormon founder, Joseph Smith). Jennifer LeClaire claims she has received her own visions and revelations from God which add a lot of new material to the revelations found in the Bible (concerning, for example, another new covenant she claims was made between God and the founding fathers of the USA).
My first impression on reading about that completely innocuous tweet (as translated from the words of this non-English-speaking, poetic Pope), and the wildly hysterical overreaction of some protestants (and even "prophets" like this "Jennifer LeClaire"), was that it was "much ado about nothing".
To me, the Pope was just saying (in his own different cultural way) that those who do not seek the help of Mary's prayers for themselves and their loved ones "just don't know what they're missing".
It's kind of like it would be if some vegans did not avail themselves of the fine fish meal Jesus miraculously provided for everyone when He fed the 5,000, or if a teetotaler did not partake of the "best wine" Jesus miraculously provided for everyone at the wedding feast of Cana. They just wouldn't know what they were missing!
(The same holds true for those who choose to not take advantage of the opportunity to ask Mary to pray for themselves or their loved ones. They just don't know what they're missing, and as the "Mother of Our Lord", Mary is our spiritual Mother, and those who choose not to take advantage of her intercessory prayers are, metaphorically and poetically speaking of course, choosing to make themselves to some degree "spiritual orphans", in a manner of speaking.)
(Keep in mind that "real" orphans don't just curl up and die. They have many ways of living and coping and enjoying a very successful life. It is just sad that they do not have a mother to pray for them, like other folks do. Now, if someone turns their back on their living mother, and rejects the loving care she wishes to extend to them, they are in a manner of speaking voluntarily choosing to be "orphans".)
Remember too that Jesus (again, in a manner of speaking) is our Brother.
As to your not caring at all about the reliability of a writer who is trying to convince all of us of the points she is asserting, I have to say that is very strange approach to take. That's how President B-O got elected twice -- too many people just did not care whether he was honest, reliable, truthful, honorable, filled with integrity, and kept his word, or if he did NOT do any of those things.
Too many Americans got bamboozled by him, and too many get bamboozled by used car salesmen, insurence agents, other politicians, and various other con artists and scammers, including whacko Moonbat "cult leaders", authors, and speakers.
President B-O
(I hope you didn't get bamboozled and vote for President B-O, did you boatbums?) :-)
It is always better to know the honesty, integrity level, and "truthfulness" reputation of ANY author or speaker you read or hear, concerning ANY subject, and to not remain ignorant, uninformed, and completely in the dark about those authors and speakers, and their viewpoints and prejudices.
As an illustration, consider this imaginary scenario. Picture that you were writing an article about that recent Ferguson shooting, and you wanted to get the perspective of some black men who claimed they were there, and claimed that they witnessed the entire incident. And assume your objective was not to get their opinions, but that you just wanted a factual description of the unfolding events that fateful day, exactly as they witnessed them. Now pretend you have rounded up four black men from that scene who claimed they witnessed the entire episode. Here are those four black men:
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If you did not know anything at all about those four people, you might think they are equally honest, reliable, and full of integrity, and that you could trust all of them equally, but if you already knew a little something about them, you would be much better able to judge the reliability and truthfulness level of whatever each of them told you they witnessed that night, even if they each told irreconcilably conflicting versions of the events that night.
Now boatbums, I would strongly urge you to (in the future) start making an effort to learn a lot more about the authors you read, and the speakers you listen to, so you can make a much better assessment of any kind of prejudicial slants or distorting bias they may be putting into their writing or speaking to deceptively sway you. (The Bible tells us there are many false prophets in the world.)
(And I have to point out that the main article this thread posted was not just a factual description of a brief "tweet", but contained several more assertions than merely that one tweet, all with a particular slant and viewpoint.) Check out the obvious difference between your own narrow focus and the entire article here for yourself:
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Do you see the difference, when you really take a genuine, sincere, honest look at all of it, instead of just a quick, superficial glance at only a minute portion of it?
Goodnight, and "may the Lord bless you real good".
"There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. And I could care less what liberal garbage came out of Vatican II, which was hijacked by protestants.""Garbage" from your venerated leaders? That's a start, I think you are on to something here.
Besides the belief that it is all the Protestants fault. Yeah, lets blame it on them!
What's that say about a denomination if it can be hijacked by another denomination?
"Salvation is through the Catholic Church. End of story."Does that mean you are not interested in hearing the truth? But then, that is ANOTHER story, not the one you just ended.
You know, the one where salvation is through Jesus.
So maybe I will tell you. Maybe.
"I dont sugercoat false religions"I noticed that with your comment about Vatican II. Good start!
Oops, then you added:
"...protestants preach a false religion and have been for 500 years."Ah ha, them pesky Protestants again!
Seems to be a major theme that jumps out and SEEMS to bring out anger and...well...may be a problem?
I'm am not a Protestant (not a Catholic either, but a Christian), but have attended many services in Protestant congregations.
They seem quite confident and joyful in their relationship with Jesus and preach the word faithfully. Many of them quite Berean.
It wouldn't bother them in least if Catholicism tried to "hijack" their beliefs.
They would just let Jesus take care of it. He loves to help his people!
Sorry you seem to be so put upon with the mythical "hijacking" of your denomination by Christians.
There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church.
There is no salvation outside of Jesus.
Sorry you seem to be so put upon with the mythical “hijacking” of your denomination by Christians.
So the Catholics say you can’t get to Jesus unless you are a Catholic but the Catholic Church was “hijacked” by protestants?
I can assure you; that after going thru a sumptuous buffet line, with all kinds of good food and desserts; when one finds a piece of fecal material, floating in the punchbowl; the whole experience is going to be downgraded just a bit.
Funny when I state that Catholics believe that, I’m called a liar and poorly catechized
Must be the same for you.
I wonder where the rest of the FRoman Catholics are now.,
It’s the weekend: time for the other life...
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Yes, worshiping dead nicolaitans, and the mothers of all their gods. Tammuz’ mom is their ko-redoomer!
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Amen!
It’s so simple.
Salvation through the Catholic Church, through Mary, or through Jesus?
Biblically, Jesus. Only Jesus.
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Yes, worshiping dead nicolaitans, and the mothers of all their gods. Tammuz mom is their ko-redoomer!
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If I heard such babbling in a bar I’d say “I’ll have what that guy is drinking!”
Seriously, you are making absolutely no sense whatsoever!
Pick up your Bible, remove the layers of dust I assume have accumulated over years of neglect, open it and read.
We have one Redeemer and He is Jesus!
You need to tell that to the catholics.
Catholics are sun god worshipers, whether they understand it or not.
House of Judah.
I thought every Christian knew that there is only one Mediator between God and man.
Apparently the so called "millions" of catholics don't know this.... But they do know what they are taught to know by their leadership....who appear not to care what God's Word 'clearly' teaches.
Even when the people wanted to make Paul a God when he was in Athens he responded firmly....((Acts 14:12) and the people cried out they are gods,.. they responded resoundly, we are men like yourselves.
and again with Peter...in Acts 10:25-27.... As Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him and 'fell down at his feet and worshiped him'.... But Peter lifted him up, saying,... Stand up; I myself am also a man."
The enemy of mens souls is always seeking people to turn from God to "others" or something else....And Jesus answered him (satan),.... It is written,... You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve.......Luke 4:8
Samuel said to all the Israelites their return to the Lord was conditional.......... "If you are returning to the LORD with all your hearts, then rid yourselves of the foreign gods and the Ashtoreths and commit yourselves to the LORD and 'serve him only'.....I Sam.7:3
...and in Exodus.... for you shall worship no other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.............. This is based on a previous command of 'false worship' in Exodus 20:4-5: ....You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God,....
Which does make one question what type of twisted relationship he thinks he has with a man made dolls and statues?
Pope was "Just saying?"......No.... he wasn't 'just saying'...he was 'pointing' to someone other than Jesus Christ for help, and that by kneeling, praying, and kissing a statue and a doll of mary. His behavior and actions attest to his worship of mary.
Here the Francis consecrated "The World" to catholicism's mary...note it was NOT to Jesus Christ
How is this not idolatry? (rhetorical)
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