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Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"
Charisma News ^ | 9/5/2014 | Jennifer LeClaire

Posted on 09/11/2014 11:19:06 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

Pope Francis has been a breath of fresh air for many Catholics seeking greater liberty and a growing concern for conservative Christians who take issue with his comments about homosexuality and other cultural issues.

But the pontiff's latest statement is sparking an uproar from believers around the world. Pope Francis sent a tweet Tuesday that absolutely violates the truth of Scripture:

"The Christian who does not feel that the Virgin Mary is his or her mother is an orphan," Pope Francis tweeted.

As of the time I wrote this column it had been retweeted about 4,000 times and many of the responses were in appropriately unkind. It's not appropriate to attack the pope for his beliefs. It's more appropriate to share the truth...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Ecumenism; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; bigotry; catholic; mary; pope; popefrancis
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Good points! This poor theology dates all the way back to 431AD, the Council of Ephesus. The effects of the Catholic Church's decision to deify Mary by calling her Theotokos - "Birth-Giver of God" are still being felt. Ironically, prior to Christianity, Ephesus was the place deified the goddess Diana...
1 posted on 09/11/2014 11:19:06 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
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To: Jan_Sobieski; metmom

This Pope has made so many stupid statements it is nuts


2 posted on 09/11/2014 11:23:00 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple whom he loved standing beside her, he said to his mother, “Woman, here is your son.” Then he said to the disciple, “Here is your mother.” And from that hour the disciple took her into his own home. ... John 19: 26-27
3 posted on 09/11/2014 11:28:13 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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“The effects of the Catholic Church’s decision to deify Mary by calling her Theotokos - “Birth-Giver of God” are still being felt. Ironically, prior to Christianity, Ephesus was the place deified the goddess Diana...”

Like Rome’s Mary, Diana was also known as the “Queen of Heaven.”


4 posted on 09/11/2014 11:28:40 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Jan_Sobieski
"The Christian who does not feel that the Virgin Mary is his or her mother is an orphan," Pope Francis tweeted.
"People exploit me for my connections, worshipping me as a way to get closer to Jesus," said the Holy Virgin, bathed in a golden light and attended by seraphim. "How would Anthony feel if I called upon him in the guise of friendship, but simply wanted his cousin to do some plumbing work for me? It's just rude."
-- The Onion: Man Just Using Virgin Mary To Get To Jesus

5 posted on 09/11/2014 11:33:42 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Then we’re all orphans - except John.

Craziness.

It’s a steady drip.

Those folks ought to learn to READ - not just LISTEN.


6 posted on 09/11/2014 11:34:21 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

“The Christian who does not feel that the Virgin Mary is his or her mother is an orphan,” Pope Francis tweeted.

Other than the fact that this belief is without biblical support, it is inspirational. Still, nice whole cloth stuff from the Pope.


7 posted on 09/11/2014 11:37:43 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

You need a new screen name, since the real Jan Sobieski would tell you in no uncertain terms what he thought of your theological errors.


8 posted on 09/11/2014 11:42:13 AM PDT by Campion
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To: .45 Long Colt
Ephesus was the place [that] deified the goddess Diana.

And Rev 2:4,5 says that that church at Ephesis has left its first love.

"But I have this against you, that you have abandoned the love you had at first. Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent, and do the works you did at first. If not, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent."

Could it be?

Let's discuss.

9 posted on 09/11/2014 11:43:15 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Uh, let me say it... Mary is not my mother.

Was this another mis-translated comment again?


10 posted on 09/11/2014 11:45:57 AM PDT by Obadiah (None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I like the biblical Mary.

I don’t like the RCC telling me what I should or shouldn’t believe about her based on their theology and worship of Mary. I am so sick of the weird relationship of RCC that regard Jesus as the stern judge (judgment half) and Mary as the one they can beg for stuff from (the love/mercy half). It’s screwed up. God is both perfect judge but perfectly loving. At the same time. He didn’t split His love side to Mary and the stern immovable judge to Jesus. Mary doesn’t need to beg the judge for us because only she can get the judge to grant what she asks because He just can’t refuse his mother. It’s warped. Warped.

The bottom line is Mary is not responsible for my salvation. I don’t look to Mary for anything as it concerns my salvation. SHe’s a great Christian and had the pivotal role in God’s plan of salvation, but at the end of the day Mary doesn’t save anyone, she needed to be saved by her Son, Jesus Christ. And she knew it. And I follow her advice to look to Jesus and do what He tells you.


11 posted on 09/11/2014 11:46:39 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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And let me be clear, Mary had the pivotal human role in God’s plan of salvation. Jesus had THE pivotal role in God’s (HIS) plan of salvation.


12 posted on 09/11/2014 11:47:55 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: kinsman redeemer

If we are to take the example of Jesus the Christ.

Mat 12:46While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. 47Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.”

48He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” 49Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. 50For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”

I am no orphan.


13 posted on 09/11/2014 11:48:20 AM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: Bidimus1

Thank you for reminding us of that passage of Scripture.


14 posted on 09/11/2014 11:57:49 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and in politic)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Not my birth mother nor mother of any kind...but that hardly makes me an orphan in Christ.


15 posted on 09/11/2014 12:05:34 PM PDT by Dallas59
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"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again" said the Apostle Peter.

Why are Catholics going against the Apostle Peter?

According to this God has caused us to be born again. How? He removed our heart of stone and gave us a heart of flesh and regenerated our minds. No woman's womb can do that.

16 posted on 09/11/2014 12:05:36 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: Secret Agent Man

Very well said.


17 posted on 09/11/2014 12:11:48 PM PDT by Obadiah (None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: .45 Long Colt

She’s probably some sort of distant cousin of mine.

Does that count?

(Sorry, this is none of my business, but I understand she was of the house of Levi, so I couldn’t resist.)


18 posted on 09/11/2014 12:15:30 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Too bad..... guess I must be an orphan since I accept that Jesus of Nazareth is fully God and fully human while on earth and a part of the trinity before and after his earthly visit.....I have no such belief about Mary


19 posted on 09/11/2014 12:17:53 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Bidimus1

that’s some real twisted use of scripture


20 posted on 09/11/2014 12:19:38 PM PDT by Nifster
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