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To: Heart-Rest
You commented........"To me, the Pope was just saying (in his own different cultural way) that those who do not seek the help of Mary's prayers for themselves and their loved ones "just don't know what they're missing".......

Which does make one question what type of twisted relationship he thinks he has with a man made dolls and statues?

Pope was "Just saying?"......No.... he wasn't 'just saying'...he was 'pointing' to someone other than Jesus Christ for help, and that by kneeling, praying, and kissing a statue and a doll of mary. His behavior and actions attest to his worship of mary.

Here the Francis consecrated "The World" to catholicism's mary...note it was NOT to Jesus Christ


1,139 posted on 09/22/2014 9:58:29 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

How is this not idolatry? (rhetorical)


1,140 posted on 09/22/2014 10:58:24 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.)
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To: caww
"Pope was "Just saying?"......No.... he wasn't 'just saying'...he was 'pointing' to someone other than Jesus Christ for help, and that by kneeling, praying, and kissing a statue and a doll of mary. His behavior and actions attest to his worship of mary."

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1. "...pointing to someone other than Jesus Christ for help..."

So, will you make an honest deal with me, that, for every Bible text I can find where we human beings are counseled or instructed to help other human beings, to seek help from other human beings (NOT just from God), or to pray for each other as fellow human beings, etc., you will give me $100, but if I cannot find any of those kinds of texts anywhere in the Bible, I will pay you $1,000?

Will you truthfully and publicly agree in good faith to that kind of arrangement?   (Hint: you don't want to do that, because you will lose A LOT of money.    God wants us human beings to help each other, and to seek help from each other, NOT just from Him, as the Bible (including Jesus in the Gospels) tells us, over, and over, and over again.)

2. "...kneeling..."

Do you honestly believe kneeling always signifies worship, or is the truth, rather, that kneeling sometimes just signifies respect and honor?

   

3. "...praying..."

Do you believe asking other human beings for intercessory prayer means you are worshiping them?   Do you believe asking other human beings for intercessory prayer is somehow wrong, even though the Bible tells us many times to do that?

4. "...kissing a statue and a doll of mary..."

Do you believe "worshiping God" = "physically kissing God"?   Have you, or anyone you've encountered in your life ever physically kissed God?    If not, does that mean you don't worship God?

Do you believe "physically kissing or venerating some person or object" always means you are worshiping that person or object as God?    Have you, or anyone you've encountered in your life ever physically kissed or venerated any thing or being besides God?    If so, does that mean you were worshiping those persons or things as God?

    

 

(Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only two times I can recall being mentioned in the Bible of people kissing Jesus were the time a sinful woman kissed his feet, and the time a guy named Judas kissed him.)

Do you see how utterly absurd and ridiculous these attacks all sound when you look at them with a sincerely honest and totally truthful assessment?

No matter what you might think, you should remember these two things which are the actual truth of the matter:

1. Only God can read our hearts and minds -- you can't, so you simply do not know when someone is worshiping or not worshiping, no matter what you may think.

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"...the Lord sees not as man sees; man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.”   1 Samuel 16:7

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2. Only God will judge and will decide who will be saved, and who will not be saved -- not you.
1,142 posted on 09/22/2014 9:02:05 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("Our hearts are restless, Lord, until they rest in Thee." - St. Augustine)
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