Posted on 12/16/2013 3:41:05 PM PST by NYer
I have met many cannibals in my life who are good people, so I don’t feel offended.
I have met many serial killers in my life who are good people, so I don’t feel offended.
I have met many rapists in my life who are good people, so I don’t feel offended.
Yes, indeed. I think this Pope is not media savvy and speaks off the cuff. I don’t have to listen to him on these subjects any more than I had to listen to the dopey priests of my youth who gave sermons on Simon and Garfunkle’s “Sounds of Silence.”
I’m amazed - and intrigued - that he has responded to Rush Limbaugh, lol!
Well, yes. It doesn't make sense, but that is what we are called to do. From the 6th chapter of Luke:
27 “But to you who are willing to listen, I say, love your enemies! Do good to those who hate you. 28 Bless those who curse you. Pray for those who hurt you. 29 If someone slaps you on one cheek, offer the other cheek also. If someone demands your coat, offer your shirt also. 30 Give to anyone who asks; and when things are taken away from you, don’t try to get them back. 31 Do to others as you would like them to do to you.
32 “If you love only those who love you, why should you get credit for that? Even sinners love those who love them! 33 And if you do good only to those who do good to you, why should you get credit? Even sinners do that much! 34 And if you lend money only to those who can repay you, why should you get credit? Even sinners will lend to other sinners for a full return.
35 “Love your enemies! Do good to them. Lend to them without expecting to be repaid. Then your reward from heaven will be very great, and you will truly be acting as children of the Most High, for he is kind to those who are unthankful and wicked. 36 You must be compassionate, just as your Father is compassionate.
Probably one of the hardest lessons in the Bible.
So sorry, Tris, about your terrible troubles. We live in awful times and I truly feel for you! Bless you and keep you!
The best Marxist is a dead Marxist.
Could you please accurately quote Rush calling the pope a Marxist?
Distributism.... based on WHAT criteria? If it is NOT earned, how is it in any way just. This is more mumbo jumbo. The Catholic Church does not distribute except within their flock, and very communal. Not alone in history in this regard. So, it is the age-old conflict.
Amnesty, pushed as policy benefits the “grateful” rewarded poor who are under the umbrella of the Church, and this translates to a form of Statism that is anathema to our Constitution. Period. We created the United States to get away from Eurotrash politics and history (both monarchic and religious). Which is why we will not tolerate tyranny of a king (obongo).
Unfortunately, if you make one criticism of a pope, you bring out all the haters of Catholicism (I don't mean you!!!) I find this sad and depressing.
Rush is about one thing ... Rush Limbaugh and that’s it.
So WHEN, not IF, this pope reveals even more of his beliefs, and BACKS IT UP WITH SCRIPTURE, EVEN RED SCRIPTURE, what will the "faithful" do? Sell it all, like Christ said, and like the pope WILL remind them. Or wait for clarification?
This is the logical ending for NOT studying God's Word His way. You've worked yourselves into a corner, trusting in a religious institution that is poised to take it all. Or better yet, receive it all, when you try to follow those red words. There will be no middle ground for you. You've done it to yourselves. By NOT heading God's plan for the Church the Body of Christ. And you have no one to blame but yourselves. You've given your power to fallible men. Who WILL use God's Word against you.
The deaths from marxism cannot be excused by a foolish probably sincere person, as “met marxists who are good people”— they CANNOT be. The tenets do not in any way coincide with human nature, or the goodness and kindness found in people of faith, Christians, Jews, Orthodox and Catholic, Protestants.
It is indeed people, marxist people who carried out the most horrendous killings the world has ever seen, and that is saying something. The naivete of a Pope, here, is quite embarrassing— and playing with fire (not for the first time).
This whole argument is vague and subjective. Few people consider themselves total Marxist or pure “cut-throat” capitalist. They are somewhere in between. But where?
Let’s take each policy favored by the Pope. Is the Pope for a minimum wage? Is he opposed to a flat tax and for progressive taxation for the rich? Is he for amnesty for illegal aliens? If all or most of the Pope’s policy positions are liberal, then we call him socialist or Marxist.
It is high time for the Pope, the Catholic Church and the Distributists in the Church to practice what they preach. Redistribute the wealth of the Catholic Church to their members first, and then to all others in need. Anything less than that is pure demagoguery.
True. Christianity does not. But papal teaching in the Church of Rome, does— and it is distributionist... ie. per the dictat of the heirarchy and according to it’s political goals. As such, it should be looked upon, good and bad, as a form of government. The US was founded to get away from this very power structure and its competitor, England. And we should also steer clear of the islamofascists for the same reasons. Our Founders knew best, and that freedom OF religion was essential, as was the freedom of choice.
But that is not possible,since the RCC is a political system as well as a religious system. They are their own country. And never underestimate THAT. That is as important as their religion. What you are suggesting would cause the RCC to cease to exist, politically. They are not interested in redistributing the wealth OF the Catholic Church to their members, it is their members who are to bring THEIR wealth TO the Church.
When he sells the Vatican he will have a starting point, until then he is playing the politics of the world, a business with which many popes have historically been distracted.
The flip side of marxism (which branded “capitalism” as a name which we do not have to honor or recognize— rather one should use “economic freedom” as the model) is simply that it is the means to “unseat” generational wealth and power of democratic republics and restructure the state by theft of property, in order to gain wealth without work or earning or any kind of investment save the lives of the duped supporters and victims who died in the millions for this hideous philosophy.
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