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Pope Responds to Rush Limbaugh
Catholic in the Ozarks ^
| December 16, 2013
Posted on 12/16/2013 3:41:05 PM PST by NYer
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To: trisham
Let me tell you something I'm sorry about your problems. The point is that you had time to listen when you agreed with the guy but didn't when he might say something that may impugn the Popes wisdom (or lack of) in such matters.
To: NYer
This entire article is spin.
Rush called the Pope out, and this is the Pope's way of backtracking.
There have been many attempts by the Left to "moderate" the Pope, as if he agrees with some of their policies.
That's why Time named him Person of the Year, and why some liberals have fawned over him for supposedly having progressive leanings.
To: onona
All one has to do is remember that Pope Francis is from South America.
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posted on
12/16/2013 4:04:49 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: ConservativeInPA; NYer
Please, someone explain to me HOW Rome cannot be the ULTIMATE Religious/Political system the world has ever known. After all, isn't that the whole point of Rome trying to bring about the kingdom of God on earth? A place from where He will govern the nations, and His followers will be a kingdom of priests? It's ALL about politics. Always has been, always will be. Unfortunately for ROme, they are NOT Israel. Never have been. Never will be. And CHRIST is going to set up His Kingdom, not Rome. It will be centered in Jerusalem, just as He said. And His 12 Apostles will be sitting on twelve thrones, judging the 12 tribes of Israel.
If Rome did not have visions of heading the governments of the world, why is it a sovereign nation, with ambassadors, an army, concordants that nations must sign, a special seat reserved for it at the UN, etc. She functions as a government, down to her own flag and coinage. What's the point if she is nothing more than a religious institution?
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posted on
12/16/2013 4:04:54 PM PST
by
smvoice
(HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
To: NYer
"But I have met many Marxists in my life who are good people ..."
This Pope has foot in mouth disease.
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posted on
12/16/2013 4:05:10 PM PST
by
oh8eleven
(RVN '67-'68)
To: BipolarBob
No, that is not a correct assumption, in fact, I very rarely listen to Rush. I've read here some of what he's said lately, and although I respect his opinion, I simply have no energy to be upset any more than I already am.
Nothing that you, Rush or anyone else says will affect my opinion of this Pope. I have a mind of my own.
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posted on
12/16/2013 4:05:55 PM PST
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: NYer
” They have no economic model they follow. Rather, they make the principles upon which economic models are built, and the only economic model built on papal teaching is distributism.”
This is exactly the point that got missed in this so-called debate. Christianity does not call for any specific economic system.
To: trisham
I listened to Rush for a short time today, and when the subject of Pope Francis arose, I turned off the radio. Rush is a very intelligent man, but.. Ditto (no pun intended) but I kept the program on. Rush tends to view things in political terms. It is challenging for secularists to comprehend that when the pope speaks, he addresses a global audience. Rush continues to view the topic as if were addressed to Americans. What's most disappointing, though, is that Rush continues to cite msm sources for his arguments, rather than delving into the actual document or catholic sources. Moreover, I don't think he is familiar with the church's teaching on subsidiarity.
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posted on
12/16/2013 4:07:47 PM PST
by
NYer
("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
To: miss marmelstein
I feel that the previous couple of popes were a lot clearer on where they stood. This one seems to need a lot more clarifications.
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posted on
12/16/2013 4:08:49 PM PST
by
Moorings
To: miss marmelstein
PJ2 certainly wasn’t quiet about communism in Poland.
Likewise, anyone who chooses to worship capitalism will be disappointed.
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posted on
12/16/2013 4:12:01 PM PST
by
rwilson99
(Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
To: NYer
Ditto (no pun intended) but I kept the program on. Rush tends to view things in political terms. It is challenging for secularists to comprehend that when the pope speaks, he addresses a global audience. Rush continues to view the topic as if were addressed to Americans. What's most disappointing, though, is that Rush continues to cite msm sources for his arguments, rather than delving into the actual document or catholic sources. Moreover, I don't think he is familiar with the church's teaching on subsidiarity.****************************
Well said, and I agree. Imho, this subject is a complicated one, and really requires a more extensive examination than is possible for Rush, who has hundreds of stories to consider daily.
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posted on
12/16/2013 4:12:25 PM PST
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: NYer
The Pope and Rush...Too funny....
To: ConservativeInPA
Rush went too far and religion and economic systems do not mix.
AHHHH, so it's blasphemy to question anything said by the Pope..........got it!
As a side note, if Rush was so far off base then why did the Pope find it necessary to clarify his statements?
And furthermore, do you really think the Pope was actually responding to Rush's statement or were the statements embellished by the MSM in order to generate a disclaimer from the Pope?
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posted on
12/16/2013 4:13:01 PM PST
by
Hot Tabasco
(Miss Muffit suffered from arachnophobia.....)
To: NYer
The Marxist ideology is wrong. But I have met many Marxists in my life who are good people, so I dont feel offended. What an awful thing to say.
"Pol Pot was a great guy over noodles."
"Chairman Mao was charming and had a heart of gold in spite of murdering 50,000,000 people with his genuinely humane ideas."
"Stalin was a great leader of his people in wartime."
"Kim Jong Un has a fine appreciation for opera, as do I. So I'm not offended to be compared to him."
Jeepers. Can we ask for some more moral distance between good people with anti-human destructive murderous ideologies and the freaking POPE?
I don't care that he may later clarify his way out of those two sentences. The proximate conflation demonstrates an inability to cleanly segregate ideas for the purposes of TEACHING. smh....
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posted on
12/16/2013 4:14:41 PM PST
by
Uncle Miltie
(I Love 0bamaCare! It proves government incompetence forever.)
To: BipolarBob
I wonder how many times in the bible Christ spoke about Caesar, I can only think of one, render unto Caesar that which belong to Caesar and to God what is Gods...why does any pope speak of Caesars at all. If I remember correctly, the pope, bishops and lay people are to spread the gospel of the good news, not discuss economics and feel that he has to respond to some guy that talks on the radio. No one was insulting him personally, just commenting on the fact that the pope sounded like a marxist. I think he was insulted thats why he answered Rush. Silly really.
To: NYer
I like Rush but his thinking was revealed as sloppy when he made the Marxist comment about Pope Francis. Capitalism can’t be made into an idol which can’t be criticized. So if someone criticizes the excesses of capitalism, which Blessed John Paul II referred to as “cutthroat capitalism”, he or she is a Marxist? I think Rush hurt himself more with that comment than he realizes. There’s a century of papal words condemning Marxism and many Christians have given their lives in opposition to Marxism.
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posted on
12/16/2013 4:16:10 PM PST
by
MDLION
("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
To: ConservativeInPA
As a follow up to my previous comment, what does the MSM do best? Create controversy where none really exists in order to generate readership............
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posted on
12/16/2013 4:17:41 PM PST
by
Hot Tabasco
(Miss Muffit suffered from arachnophobia.....)
To: NVDave
It's that old Catholic thing...Hate the sin, love the sinner....
It's a ridiculous phrase....so I should love hookers and homos and abortionists and murderers the same as my children??
To: Lou Budvis
"Christianity does not call for any specific economic system." Nonetheless, the demonstration of the various economic systems in the history of the world upon mankind is not in question.
Can we ask that the Pope extend his sure declaration that Marxism is "wrong" to the people who espouse it?
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posted on
12/16/2013 4:18:59 PM PST
by
Uncle Miltie
(I Love 0bamaCare! It proves government incompetence forever.)
To: NYer
I have met many Nazis in my life who are good people, so I dont feel offended.
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posted on
12/16/2013 4:20:38 PM PST
by
Jeff Chandler
(Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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