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Pope Says, Jesus 'Pretends'
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| 12/2/13
| Fr. Ray Blake
Posted on 12/02/2013 7:06:42 PM PST by marshmallow
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How do we spin this one, folks? Do we blame another bum translation? Quote taken out of context?
Francis "damage control" thread du jour.
To: marshmallow
The radio link you provide says In the Gospel, Jesus does become angry,” but your blog link says In the Gospel, Jesus does not become angry,”
Just saying
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posted on
12/02/2013 7:11:47 PM PST
by
icwhatudo
(Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
To: marshmallow
wow
did he really say that? or was it “out of context” again, as some keep saying?
Jesus was just pretending?
wow.
You know what....
I call BLASPHEMY!
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posted on
12/02/2013 7:15:20 PM PST
by
GeronL
(Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
To: marshmallow
This Pope is either a breath of fresh air...or he is the AntiChrist.
For me...judgment is still out.
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posted on
12/02/2013 7:15:55 PM PST
by
RoosterRedux
(The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
To: marshmallow
Driving the moneychangers out of the Temple? Was that a parlor debate?
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O stranger, tell the Lacedaemonians that we lie here, obedient to their command.
Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)
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posted on
12/02/2013 7:15:56 PM PST
by
ConorMacNessa
(HM/2 USN - 3/5 Marines RVN 196<font size=4><b>9 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
To: marshmallow
A very interesting point.
I don’t pretend to know what the pope meant by what he said. I’m hoping it is just a bad translation considering some of his other odd remarks.
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posted on
12/02/2013 7:16:10 PM PST
by
Vanbasten
To: icwhatudo
My reading of the passage is that Jesus does become angry in the Gospel (i.e. in other parts of the Gospel narrative) but when the disciples don't understand him (i.e. in this part of the Gospel), it's pretense.
To: All
On Saturday, Radio Vatican said Pope Francis had said, In the Gospel, Jesus does not become angry, but pretends to when the disciples do not understand him, The ancient Fathers would baulk at such a suggestion, I can't think of one who would be be comfortable with the idea that the Gospels did not reveal the plain meaning of what Jesus said and did, it is only the Jesuits of the 17th century who would begin to suggest otherwise.
Don't look at me - he's your pope!
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posted on
12/02/2013 7:18:40 PM PST
by
Alex Murphy
("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
To: marshmallow
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posted on
12/02/2013 7:19:58 PM PST
by
RoosterRedux
(The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
To: Alex Murphy
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posted on
12/02/2013 7:21:48 PM PST
by
RoosterRedux
(The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
To: RoosterRedux
or he is the AntiChrist.False prophet...
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posted on
12/02/2013 7:22:47 PM PST
by
Iscool
To: marshmallow
Maybe there’s just a little too much being made out of this. Jesus often spoke in parables as well, not revealing exactly what he was talking about for reasons perhaps unknown at the time. The important thing is that he made the most important meaning known, even though the reasons might not have been understood.
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posted on
12/02/2013 7:24:45 PM PST
by
Telepathic Intruder
(The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
To: Vanbasten
It might be that holding contradictory notions in one’s head leads to madness.
Nice, genial madness, but madness just the same.
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To: Telepathic Intruder; marshmallow; Iscool
Maybe the pope is speaking in parables and nobody has figured that out yet...
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posted on
12/02/2013 7:28:02 PM PST
by
smvoice
(HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
Comment #16 Removed by Moderator
To: smvoice
I think everyone is just so critical of the Pope because he’s the “Pope”. But just like Jesus, he’s a man. But unlike Jesus, he’s not perfect. The articulation may just differ from the interpretation.
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posted on
12/02/2013 7:35:20 PM PST
by
Telepathic Intruder
(The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
To: marshmallow
Pope Francis errs and lacks perfection in his own understanding, or else he has blundered badly in his communication. OR BOTH, sadly.
All I know for certain is that the enemy is stirring increasingly in the world, and the Pope shall not be spared. I am concerned for his sake as well as my own.
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posted on
12/02/2013 7:36:40 PM PST
by
RitaOK
( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
To: Telepathic Intruder
But I’ve never seen such a continual questioning of this man’s “true” meanings of what he’s said. A person simply cannot screw up that often, like EVERY time he opens his mouth. How many points is he going to be spotted before his game actually counts?
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posted on
12/02/2013 7:40:09 PM PST
by
smvoice
(HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
To: marshmallow
I am bored with these almost-daily contretemps.
The Pope should not be preaching daily, or else his daily homilies should not be recorded and reported.
He should not be giving interviews.
Popes should speak primarily through Magisterial documents, and prepared, vetted texts—e.g., the Wednesday audiences.
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