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How do we spin this one, folks? Do we blame another bum translation? Quote taken out of context?

Francis "damage control" thread du jour.

1 posted on 12/02/2013 7:06:42 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

The radio link you provide says “In the Gospel, Jesus does become angry,” but your blog link says “In the Gospel, Jesus does not become angry,”

Just saying


2 posted on 12/02/2013 7:11:47 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: marshmallow

wow

did he really say that? or was it “out of context” again, as some keep saying?

Jesus was just pretending?

wow.

You know what....

I call BLASPHEMY!


3 posted on 12/02/2013 7:15:20 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: marshmallow
This Pope is either a breath of fresh air...or he is the AntiChrist.

For me...judgment is still out.

4 posted on 12/02/2013 7:15:55 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: marshmallow
Driving the moneychangers out of the Temple? Was that a parlor debate?



America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!

O stranger, tell the Lacedaemonians that we lie here, obedient to their command.

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

5 posted on 12/02/2013 7:15:56 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN - 3/5 Marines RVN 196<font size=4><b>9 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: marshmallow

A very interesting point.

I don’t pretend to know what the pope meant by what he said. I’m hoping it is just a bad translation considering some of his other odd remarks.


6 posted on 12/02/2013 7:16:10 PM PST by Vanbasten
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On Saturday, Radio Vatican said Pope Francis had said, “In the Gospel, Jesus does not become angry, but pretends to when the disciples do not understand him,”

The ancient Fathers would baulk at such a suggestion, I can't think of one who would be be comfortable with the idea that the Gospels did not reveal the plain meaning of what Jesus said and did, it is only the Jesuits of the 17th century who would begin to suggest otherwise.

Don't look at me - he's your pope!

8 posted on 12/02/2013 7:18:40 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: marshmallow

Maybe there’s just a little too much being made out of this. Jesus often spoke in parables as well, not revealing exactly what he was talking about for reasons perhaps unknown at the time. The important thing is that he made the most important meaning known, even though the reasons might not have been understood.


12 posted on 12/02/2013 7:24:45 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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Pope Francis errs and lacks perfection in his own understanding, or else he has blundered badly in his communication. OR BOTH, sadly.

All I know for certain is that the enemy is stirring increasingly in the world, and the Pope shall not be spared. I am concerned for his sake as well as my own.


18 posted on 12/02/2013 7:36:40 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: marshmallow

I am bored with these almost-daily contretemps.

The Pope should not be preaching daily, or else his daily homilies should not be recorded and reported.

He should not be giving interviews.

Popes should speak primarily through Magisterial documents, and prepared, vetted texts—e.g., the Wednesday audiences.


20 posted on 12/02/2013 7:40:18 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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Okay, without reading his remarks in context,...

I can't think of an time when Jesus feigned anger. Jesus did get angry. He had righteous anger, such as the time he made the whip and drove the money changers out of the temple.

However, there were several times when Jesus asked questions that Jesus already knew the answer to. One such event was when Jesus was on the road to Emmaeus when he asked what events people were talking about.

21 posted on 12/02/2013 7:41:47 PM PST by DannyTN
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I for one would not mind if the Pope denounced the systematic destruction of liberty in America by an openly Marxist regime.

After all, Pius XI wrote an encyclical against the Marxist National Socialist regime in Germany in 1937.

Will Pope Bergoglio be tarred as having been “silent” years after the Soetoro regime’s persecution of the Catholic Church in America, and the destruction of liberty in America?

Our pathetic, Obamacare-supporting bishops certainly will be.


23 posted on 12/02/2013 7:43:52 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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Nothing is ever as black and white as it seems.

Jesus certainly was angry; but what did He experience in His anger? Did Jesus experience what I experience when I am angry?

And as usual, words are just not effective for much of what is in the heart.

25 posted on 12/02/2013 7:46:45 PM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: marshmallow

Well, another day another weird statement.


27 posted on 12/02/2013 7:48:48 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: marshmallow

What a piece of work.


31 posted on 12/02/2013 7:59:41 PM PST by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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I'm not sure that what is being reported about this Pope is true. I just can't believe this yet. He has to come out and explain these accusations. If he doesn't, the Catholic Church worldwide will suffer. It will suffer in the US especially.
39 posted on 12/02/2013 8:27:37 PM PST by deweyfrank
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If the Pope is willing to pray to Mary and to believe a bunch of lying kids who said they saw her appear, to believe that corrupt church traditions trump God's Word and to believe that communion elements actually become the body and blood of Christ in the body, he'll believe anything.

Of course, most catholics believe anything that comes from the Magisterium when the Magisterium stops their depraved activities long enough to babble a few laughable banalities.

40 posted on 12/02/2013 8:48:02 PM PST by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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I think we have an Obama version of the Pope.


49 posted on 12/02/2013 10:15:16 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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>> “In the Gospel, Jesus does not become angry, but pretends to when the disciples do not understand him,”

To my dear Catholic bashers, is the parent that disciplines the toddler truly angry?


52 posted on 12/02/2013 11:35:21 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: marshmallow
And now the Vatican Radio link says this:

“In the Gospel, Jesus does become angry, but pretends to when the disciples do not understand him.

They took out the "not". But of course this quote now makes no sense. What is with all of the editing at the Vatican websites? Removing interviews, changing formats, editing quotes. They don't know what to do with this guy.

As for the comment about the Pope should not do these things, I think by him doing these things we are seeing how he really thinks.

53 posted on 12/03/2013 2:29:41 AM PST by piusv
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To: marshmallow

Maybe Jesus was just kidding about the whole “This is my body” thing.


58 posted on 12/03/2013 5:13:37 AM PST by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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