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Why The Freemans Moved To Russia (Americans immigrating)
The American Conservative ^ | 0-04-2019 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 02/05/2019 8:05:22 AM PST by NRx

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To: NorseViking

Remove rural=remote rural


61 posted on 03/17/2019 6:22:36 PM PDT by NorseViking
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The most horrific thing government figures show is that Russians “are beginning to die at younger ages.” According to the health ministry, Russia has seen an upsurge of death among men and women aged 35 to 44; and a major reason for that, Mishina says, is that the remaining hospitals focus on the diseases of the elderly than on those of working-age adults.

The biggest problem, however, is the lack of access to medical care. People are dying because there is no longer any ambulance service, medical point or hospital. One piece of evidence of this is that today “the level of mortality in rural areas is 13 percent higher than in the cities.”

The government’s health care optimization program is to blame for this. The regime hides the figures, but according to the Alliance of Doctors, between 2002 and 2017, the number of hospitals was reduced by 5,000 and the number of polyclinics by 1,000. By all accounts, the rate of closures is increasing even as death rates are going up.

Instead of spending the seven percent of GDP on health care that the World Health Organization recommends, Anastasiya Vasiliyev of the Alliance continues, Russia is currently spending only 3.6 percent. “Budget moneys are going for football, for Syria for God knows what but not for the development of accessible medical help.”

And the situation appears likely to get worse not better. Specialists say that “if the authorities continue to close hospitals at the current rates, by 2021-2022, the number of medical institutions in the country will fall to 3,000, that is to the level of the Russian Empire in 1913”

http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.com/2019/07/putins-healthcare-optimization-behind.html

Russian links as well.


62 posted on 07/08/2019 5:33:57 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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The Soviet system with clinics and high schools at every village is not sustainable. Nothing stops people from moving from places with poor infrastructure for better places.
I think some time ago we discussed it in a topic regarding Russian road infractrusture. I think I explained why a region the size of Texas sparsely housing third the population of Austin can’t have the same road system as Texas.
The same principle applies to health care and education.


63 posted on 07/08/2019 4:33:36 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: AdmSmith

The Soviet system with clinics and high schools at every village is not sustainable. Nothing stops people from moving from places with poor infrastructure for better places.
I think some time ago we discussed it in a topic regarding Russian road infractrusture. I think I explained why a region the size of Texas sparsely housing third the population of Austin can’t have the same road system as Texas.
The same principle applies to health care and education.


64 posted on 07/08/2019 4:33:37 PM PDT by NorseViking
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My dear opponent, do not fall for whataboutism:

SOVIET propagandists during the cold war were trained in a tactic that their western interlocutors nicknamed “whataboutism”. Any criticism of the Soviet Union (Afghanistan, martial law in Poland, imprisonment of dissidents, censorship) was met with a “What about...” (apartheid South Africa, jailed trade-unionists, the Contras in Nicaragua, and so forth).

read more:https://www.economist.com/node/10598774

I was not talking about remote areas nor every village it was about Russia in total:
"Specialists say that “if the authorities continue to close hospitals at the current rates, by 2021-2022, the number of medical institutions in the country will fall to 3,000, that is to the level of the Russian Empire in 1913”

65 posted on 07/09/2019 6:37:10 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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What whataboutism? Mentioning whataboutism was totally misplaced by you in this case. Your link clearly hints rural areas. The problem is real. Hospitals and schools are getting closed in rural areas in Russia. I am not disputing it.


66 posted on 07/09/2019 6:48:48 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: AdmSmith

Another point is the clinics closed mean clinics run by the Ministry of Health. Private clinics are opening at the same time although not in depressive areas.


67 posted on 07/09/2019 6:51:15 AM PDT by NorseViking
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This is just two paragraphs from the original article:

Following the hospitals in 15 years, the number of hospital beds decreased by an average of 27.5%, to 1.2 million, calculated at the Center for Economic and Social Development. In rural areas, the reduction of places is more noticeable - by almost 40%. This data is confirmed by the Director of the Independent Monitoring Foundation “Health” Edward Gavrilov. According to him, only since 2013, the number of places in hospitals has decreased by 100 thousand.

The lack of drugs in hospitals reflects another problem in Russian health care - its underfunding, experts write. The government constantly declares an increase in spending on health care, but, taking inflation into account, they, on the contrary, are falling. CEPR refers to an analysis of the budget of the Federal Mandatory Medical Insurance Fund. Experts estimate that real expenses in 2017 will decrease by 6% in prices comparable with 2015.

You can read it here:
https://www.rbc.ru/society/07/04/2017/58e4feb59a794722462a85aa


68 posted on 07/09/2019 7:22:40 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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What whataboutism? Mentioning whataboutism was totally misplaced by you in this case.

We were discussing Russian health care and you started to discuss health care in another country, that is “whataboutism”.

69 posted on 07/09/2019 7:25:09 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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Now that’s funny. Where? Where have I mentioned healthcare and in which country?


70 posted on 07/09/2019 7:36:08 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NRx
Freeman talked about . . . a new book by University of Chicago political theorist John Mearsheimer.

John "Israel controls everything" Mearsheimer? So what, he's blaming the Israelis for what's going on in the United States? I didn't know that Mearsheimer even claimed to be a conservative.

The "palaeos" have found their new Paul Findley.

71 posted on 07/09/2019 7:38:37 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Modernism began two thousand years ago.)
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Where have I mentioned healthcare and in which country?

Here: I think I explained why a region the size of Texas sparsely housing third the population of Austin can’t have the same road system as Texas.
The same principle applies to health care and education.
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3725513/posts?page=64#64

72 posted on 07/09/2019 7:41:49 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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Today we can state one thing: the share of health spending in Russian GDP is declining. “Instead of 7% of GDP recommended by WHO, in Russia 3.6% of GDP is spent on health care. Budget money goes to football, to Syria - anywhere, just not for the development of affordable medical care. I travel a lot around the regions and I want to say: there people are already “boiling”, patience has come to an end,” said the head of the trade union Alliance of Doctors Anastasia Vasilyeva.

https://newizv.ru/news/society/03-07-2019/plody-optimizatsii-smertnost-v-rossii-podnyalas-do-urovnya-natsionalnogo-bedstviya


73 posted on 07/09/2019 7:52:22 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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You are somehow extending the term, don’t you? What exactly is wrong with my idea?
In order for it to be whataboutism I had to say Texas has worse road system and worse healthcare.
Which I didn’t.


74 posted on 07/09/2019 7:57:43 AM PDT by NorseViking
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http://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3540100/posts?page=32#32

http://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3540100/posts?page=33#33


75 posted on 07/09/2019 8:04:24 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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