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Half of US adults have high blood pressure in new guidelines
AP ^ | 11/14/2017 | MARILYNN MARCHIONE

Posted on 11/14/2017 8:07:20 AM PST by spintreebob

Edited on 11/14/2017 9:22:06 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

ANAHEIM, Calif. (AP)

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bloodpressure; bpguidelines; health; healthcare; heartdisease
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To: spintreebob

I highly recommend all the books written by Dartmouth Medical School academic physician, H. Gilbert Welch, whose specialty is public health. It helps to have this information about how these statistical studies are done and what they really do and do not say about health care.

LESS MEDICINE, MORE HEALTH: 7 ASSUMPTIONS THAT DRIVE TOO MUCH MEDICAL CARE

and

OVERDIAGNOSED


61 posted on 11/14/2017 9:51:01 AM PST by Madam Theophilus (iI)
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To: right way right

Yep, bad for young truck drivers as well.


62 posted on 11/14/2017 9:51:49 AM PST by TBall
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To: DungeonMaster

Should have said “New Testament”.

Adam and Eve were before all the genetic damage set in


63 posted on 11/14/2017 10:11:17 AM PST by redgolum
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To: Seruzawa
Wait til you are literally forced by the FDA/Pharma to take these meds under the same auspices used for forced vaccination.

Bingo! That is exactly WHY I am what some fellow FReepers decry as an "anti-VAXXER". If the Fourth Amendment doesn't start at the outer layer of my skin, it starts nowhere.

My eyes were blown wide open by the Rick Perry Gardisil fiasco in Texas. WIDE open.


64 posted on 11/14/2017 10:13:12 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Manly Warrior

My mother saw a doctor for her post-partum checkup after my sister was born in 1973.

She did not see another one till this June. Was diagnosed with lung cancer and died six days later.

That is EXACTLY the way she would have wanted it. She lived a happy, hassle-free life in between.


65 posted on 11/14/2017 10:16:14 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: spintreebob

New Blood Pressure Standards making 50% now have Hypertension. Brought to you by? Your good friendly Healthcare Insurers. Yes it is in their interest to make as many excuses as can be created to raise your rates. Much like Blood Sugar standards were quietly changed. Not a high risk? No problem they’ll turn you into one with the stroke of a pen and fake research.


66 posted on 11/14/2017 10:17:42 AM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: fortheDeclaration

Of for God’s sake, it was a joke.

Somewhere in that book it should say, “it’s ok to laugh.”


67 posted on 11/14/2017 10:18:23 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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To: taxcontrol
I recommend taking your BP monitor in with you when you see the doc and check it against what the doc reads. It also might be worth while to request a larger cuff at the doctor’s office.

I have taken it in. I also have two of the same machines at the house and interchange their use. I do notice the cuff at his office about cuts my arm in half.

68 posted on 11/14/2017 10:39:23 AM PST by Hyman Roth
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To: spintreebob

Change the benchmarks and suddenly a lot more people have high blood pressure. How much did big pharma pay to get the study to shill results that will push the sales of their blood pressure medications. It would hardly be the first or only time that some industry group pushed for “health” guidelines that would result in financial benefits to them.


69 posted on 11/14/2017 10:53:08 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Buckeye McFrog

#2 Ding ding ding you are correct.
More bribe money to congress.


70 posted on 11/14/2017 11:45:49 AM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: spintreebob
I ignored my high blood pressure for years, until I finally decided I'd do something about it ... as a New Year's resolution for the year after. But while I was procrastinating I had an aortic dissection. Now my aorta is unraveled from the bottom of the arch all the way into my legs, and I have a nice thoracic aneurysm to go along with it.

The funny thing is, while I was hospitalized they insisted that my blood pressure had to be brought down under 120, but no matter how hard they tried they couldn't get it under 130. So they settled for 130, which is what, evidently, they're considering to be "high" by the new standards.

71 posted on 11/14/2017 3:04:36 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: wardaddy

I’m six three or four barefoot and weigh 240. I have been diagnosed as type two diabetic for over eleven years now. According to the weight charts I am over fifty pounds too heavy but people constantly tell me how amazing I look for a 73 year old man. I am in better shape than most of the twenty year olds around here, I can push a large SUV by myself on level ground. I am in the gym lifting weights three times a week. I don’t take prescription meds even though they want to put me on blood pressure, cholesterol and diabetes medications. I think I will tell the next doctor who wants to put me on meds to try to walk at my side for one mile and if the doctor can’t keep up then I don’t want to hear it. I don’t figure on living forever, I’m 73 and feel like 43, I’ll take my chances without all their prescription “help”.


72 posted on 11/15/2017 5:40:05 PM PST by RipSawyer (Racism is racism regardless of the race of the racist)
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To: RipSawyer

That’s impressive


73 posted on 11/15/2017 9:43:46 PM PST by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I am so with you. Medicine as an industry is often far from scientific and given too much social power. Freedom and honest knowledge can prolong and save lives. Some honest scientific knowledge hurts the medicine industry so it is kept from patients. How may docs test for vitamins D, K, or B12?


74 posted on 11/15/2017 11:00:44 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Mr Rogers
"Like I told the doctor on my last visit, “If I have to give up pizza, bacon and beer, I might as well be dead now!”"

Like I told the doctor on my last visit 20+ years ago, "What did you say? Can you speak English please? Does anyone around here understand what he's saying? Anybody?!?"
75 posted on 11/16/2017 12:05:58 AM PST by Garth Tater (Gone Galt and I ain't coming back.)
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To: spintreebob

Does anyone ever check their dog or cat blood pressure? Why not?

If HBP causes headaches then why don’t marathon runners, bicyclist, football, basketball, and tennis players complain about headaches?

Weightlifters have had Systolic BP readings of 400+. Why aren’t they dead?

Why do people have more strokes when their BP is chemically lowered than when their HBP is not being treated?

Why are the chances of developing Dementia, Parkinson’s, and Altzheimers much higher when your BP is chemically lowered?

Next time you go to the Doc and when the nurse checks your BP, ask if everyone should have the same BP.

The USA have the among best Docs and it’s probably without debate we have the best medicine on Earth yet the average lifespan among Americans is only #43 worldwide. Why??

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html

We now have a Diabetes epidemic as nearly 1 in 3 have it. If we had an animal species with a 1 in 3 were falling ill or being crippled by a disease, we’d be wondering what the hell is going on.

When our body is unable to properly regulate our blood sugar something is broken.

When you go to the grocer, in every aisle in almost every food what is in that food you put in your shopping cart?


76 posted on 12/02/2017 3:47:53 PM PST by Valk Rider
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To: Valk Rider

Why do I waste time reading silly, unsubstantiated claims about medical issues from a random FReeper? Who knows?


77 posted on 12/02/2017 3:50:54 PM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: taxcontrol

I am not entirely clear on how having a sleep apnea study done would prevent one from needing BP meds.


78 posted on 12/02/2017 4:00:49 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: oldplayer

“A “journal” titled “Hypertension” finds that blood pressure needs to be lowered? I am shocked! Shocked, I tell you!”

Personally, I feel that cardiologists are more qualified on the issue than most others. Exactly which specialty do you rely on for guidance on heart medicine?


79 posted on 12/02/2017 4:07:24 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Vermont Lt
There was an awful lot of smoting going on back then.

High blood pressure is caused by stress.

Stress is caused by suppressing the desire to smite the truly deserving.

So....

80 posted on 12/02/2017 4:25:34 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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