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Majority of US Smokers Feel Discriminated Against, Poll Says
dailycaller.com ^ | 7/18/2017 | Andrea Vacchiano

Posted on 07/18/2017 7:52:18 AM PDT by rktman

More than half of smokers in the United States believe they are discriminated against, according to a Gallup poll released Monday.

Of those who feel discriminated against, 13 percent of smokers say they feel this way every day and 8 percent feel it every week. Fourteen percent of smokers feel discriminated against less than once a year, and 44 percent of smokers do not feel discriminated against at all. The poll is the first time Gallup has asked smokers about perceived discrimination in this format.

Alleged discrimination against smokers can take place in many forms, such as smoking bans at public parks and beaches, not getting jobs because of their smoking habits, and higher insurance rates, according to Gallup.

Smokers tend to make less money than non-smokers, although that could be attributed to a variety of factors, as smokers tend to have lower average levels of education, according to Gallup.

Research from Gallup shows adults who smoke accumulate $2,132 more in health care costs per year than non-smokers, which totals to $92 billion more in healthcare costs nationwide. The financial consequences of smoking regularly, along with negative health effects from secondhand smoke, are both possible reasons to the perceived stigma.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Years ago, I was having a smoke outside with a friend after work. No other people were around us when a short, overly obese man (400 lbs?) shuffled past us, waved the “second hand” smoke away and remarked that “we were killing him with the second-hand smoke”.


21 posted on 07/18/2017 8:19:47 AM PDT by GYPSY286 (Politicians must USE their heads or Americans will LOSE their heads.)
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To: GYPSY286

By that logic everyone in Pittsburgh should have been dead by 1948. The air was literally black here at noontime.


22 posted on 07/18/2017 8:23:22 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rktman

You give yourself preexisting conditions and spray toxic emissions on me fecklessly which makes you ill allows the left to use you as a political tool and costs me more in premiums and taxes and you want my support?


23 posted on 07/18/2017 8:23:29 AM PDT by Phil DiBasquette
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To: factoryrat

Dems don’t like vaping because they lose the tobacco tax $$$

I think a pack of smokes is like 14 bucks in NYC now...so naturally they went after vaping....gotta have that tax money to buy votes with.


24 posted on 07/18/2017 8:23:45 AM PDT by Bobalu ( Healthcare - someone must pay. Who should it be, and how did they get that obligation?)
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To: rktman
Research from Gallup shows adults who smoke accumulate $2,132 more in health care costs per year than non-smokers, which totals to $92 billion more in healthcare costs nationwide. The financial consequences of smoking regularly, along with negative health effects from secondhand smoke, are both possible reasons to the perceived stigma.

The solution is higher taxes. Divide this 92 billion bucks into the actual packages of cigarettes sold and collect it from the morons who are costing us these many billions of wasted dollars.

This says there are 258 billion cigarettes sold each year. That's 12.9 billion packs. I'm too lazy to do the math. But if we tax the 92 billion dollars in extra health care costs into each pack sold, that would be fair and equitable.

25 posted on 07/18/2017 8:24:11 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: jcon40

Been tea totaling for a long time. But, pot is legal now in NV. Nah. Never felt right being out of my mind. Besides, there’s too many things that make me happy as is. No weight gain noticed. Yet. ;-)


26 posted on 07/18/2017 8:24:42 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Peer reviewed studies on 2nd hand?


27 posted on 07/18/2017 8:25:29 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: rktman

“Discriminate” is not a dirty word. You do it when you buy a car or a house. You do it when you pick a mate, or a restaurant.

I discriminate against all sorts of people based on their attributes. We all do. And you bet I discriminate “against” smokers. I discriminate against alcoholics. I discriminate against anyone who carries with them attributes that could do harm to those for which I am responsible. So sue me.


28 posted on 07/18/2017 8:25:31 AM PDT by robroys woman
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To: Buckeye McFrog; ExGeeEye
As far as "liberty" - smoker's rights END where MY airspace begins, and as long as smokers keep their filthy stench to themselves, I don't care what they do, but don't expect me to subsidize their medical when they start to have "problems".
29 posted on 07/18/2017 8:26:06 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Imagine if the RINOs and socialist dems were working for the good of The Country!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

> Secondhand smoke is a killer

It actually isn’t but don’t let that stop your moral crusade.


30 posted on 07/18/2017 8:27:59 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: Tax-chick

There’s an interesting suggestion here that “smoker” is a kind of comprehensive identity

the identity becomes ‘comprehensive’when a smoker is denied employment because of his habit...he is not an individual then, but part of an unseemly cadre to be shunned...


31 posted on 07/18/2017 8:28:22 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Second-hand smoke being a killer has never been proven. Yet this is the argument used to ban privately owned businesses from allowing their customers to smoke. A restaurant or bar is private property that people do not have a right or necessity to patronize. If the owner wants to allow smoking in their establishment they should be able to. Post that it’s a smoking establishment, and if people don’t want to work there or patronize it, they can go to a non-smoking establishment. If you are truly a son of liberty, you should understand that.


32 posted on 07/18/2017 8:29:09 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Bobalu

Proprietors should be the determining factor. NOT big brother. NON smoking places will attract non smokers and smoking places will attract smokers who aren’t well received at the other places.


33 posted on 07/18/2017 8:29:59 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: cincinnati65

I’m 40 feet from the front entrance of this place, standing next to the trash dumpster in 40 degree weather, and you’ve GOT to go out of your way to insult me.....please.

oh, was that you...?


34 posted on 07/18/2017 8:30:21 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Responsibility2nd

Lucky for me I fall in neither category. And, I’m pretty damn cool either way. Oddly enough, the indigent homeless folks around here always seem to be able to come up with booze and cigs and pot and meth and heroin and cell phones and tats and piercings........


35 posted on 07/18/2017 8:33:03 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: thoughtomator; Rusty0604

No moral crusade - it just plain STINKS! Smokers wreak.


36 posted on 07/18/2017 8:33:09 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Imagine if the RINOs and socialist dems were working for the good of The Country!)
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To: rktman

Long time smoker here,, and I vape now and Im very happy I quit cigarettes..
Its different,, but worth it imho..


37 posted on 07/18/2017 8:33:29 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (>> M A G A << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Bull shit. Same people and media push smoking bans who promote global warming. My wife has mild to moderate COPD from a 45 year 2 pack a day habit which she quit cold turkey 15 years ago., I smoke a pipe, indoors, and have been doing so for 60’years. No problem for me and wife’s spirometry numbers haven’t changed a bit. And by the way her Dr. Smokes!

If a bar/restaurant wants to allow smoking then don’t go there. But these control freak bastards just can’t tolerate that,

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2017/02/secondhand_smoke_isn_t_as_bad_as_we_thought.html


38 posted on 07/18/2017 8:33:29 AM PDT by Bonemaker
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To: robroys woman

Oh, a discriminator not a hater. I see. LOL!


39 posted on 07/18/2017 8:34:39 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: cincinnati65

and pot is legalized nationwide,

recreational marijuana will never be legalized nationwide; medical marijuana, in capsule form only, will...


40 posted on 07/18/2017 8:34:53 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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