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Analysis: Is it lawful self-defense to “run down” rioters surrounding your vehicle?
Legalinsurrection.com ^ | 9-22-2016 | Andrew Branca

Posted on 09/22/2016 1:04:37 PM PDT by servo1969

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1 posted on 09/22/2016 1:04:37 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Self-defense is ALWAYS a valid excuse

If my vehicle is surrounded, I am driving over them

I have a nice big Dodge Ram 2500 with a lift kit. I won’t even need to scrape any nasty bits out of my undercarriage


2 posted on 09/22/2016 1:06:39 PM PDT by Mr. K (<a href="https://imgflip.com/i/1adpjl"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1adpjl.jpg" title="made at im)
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To: servo1969

“Your honor, I remembered Reginald Denney and I was in fear of my life”....


3 posted on 09/22/2016 1:07:20 PM PDT by Kozak (ALLAH AKBAR = HEIL HITLER)
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To: servo1969

I would run them over, and the drop it into reverse!


4 posted on 09/22/2016 1:07:24 PM PDT by heterosupremacist ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." (Thomas Jefferson))
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To: servo1969

They defense is that you were in fear of your life. Works in every state I know of.


5 posted on 09/22/2016 1:07:32 PM PDT by WENDLE (At the polls -- WEAR RED ! They can't stop us!!)
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To: Mr. K

LOL, I always thought you might drive a big rig like that, Mr.K.


6 posted on 09/22/2016 1:09:34 PM PDT by PROCON ("Lock Her Up! Lock Her Up!")
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To: servo1969

If surrounded by a pack of looting thugs, I’ll put the pedal to the metal and let the chips fall where they may.


7 posted on 09/22/2016 1:09:58 PM PDT by csvset ( Illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: heterosupremacist

I would do the same.

I can’t for the life of me understand why anyone would actually stop.


8 posted on 09/22/2016 1:10:38 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: servo1969

I like the Flamethrower under each door idea


9 posted on 09/22/2016 1:10:57 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: servo1969

Thank you, very interesting and hopefully never useful information.


10 posted on 09/22/2016 1:11:40 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: servo1969

Better to be tried by 12 peers instead of carried to your grave by 6 pall bearers.


11 posted on 09/22/2016 1:12:21 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (I'm a Crude Populist & Deplorable Trump supporter since July 2015! I will proudly vote for Trump!.)
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To: servo1969

Goes without saying. Always better to be judged by nine instead of carried by six.


12 posted on 09/22/2016 1:12:23 PM PDT by ZULU (Where the HELL ARE PAUL RYAN AND MITCH MCCONNELL ?????)
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To: servo1969
"Blockaded" is not the same as "surrounded." A single person blocking one's way is not a deadly threat by itself.

Proceeding intently along the roadway is not "running them down." Changing direction to target someone is running someone down.

-PJ

13 posted on 09/22/2016 1:14:55 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: servo1969

Reginald Denny is an object lesson and historical precedent here


14 posted on 09/22/2016 1:14:58 PM PDT by rdcbn ("There is no means of avoiding a final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alt)
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To: Blue Jays

The trick is likely to be driving fast in the first place to decrease chance of being stopped.
That is why American convoys drive so fast in hostile areas.

If one knows there are riots occurring in the surrounding areas on both sides of the highway, it would make sense to increase speeds to 80-85 mph and keep moving.
The sole challenge is if rioters begin to block the roadway with stolen trucks and carjacked vehicles of their own to prevent passage. That is when one must think outside the box.


15 posted on 09/22/2016 1:15:02 PM PDT by Blue Jays
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To: butlerweave

Personally?

Driving around a group blocking the road seems reasonable and no one gets hurt.

Driving away around people quickly seems reasonable if someone throws stuff at my vehicle that could damage my vehicle and/or hurt me.

If people want to throw themselves in front of a person driving away to try to keep that person from driving away, they will win Play Stupid Games, Win Stupid Prizes.


16 posted on 09/22/2016 1:15:28 PM PDT by Ueriah
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To: servo1969

Preventing someone from having freedom of movement is kidnapping. Use of deadly force is always justified against attempted kidnapping, because that is a “forcible felony”, just like rape and murder.


17 posted on 09/22/2016 1:16:09 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Blue Jays

Why is the stupid question being asked?


18 posted on 09/22/2016 1:16:39 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: servo1969

criminal gangs have no right to surround your vehicle, it involves threat, meanace, and raises probable hostage-taking and kidnapping charges, etc

i cant give any legal advice of course, but if they try it on me, I will ask them to let me leave and then if they keep me imprisoned i will tell them i intend to leave by shifting into gear and pressing my gas pedal. if they don’t clear a path they will get hit, period.

to hell with the thugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if they want to call the police, fine and dandy i will deal with that when and if the time comes. meanwhile, they WILL I PROMISE YOU not imprison me on the public way

to HELL with the thugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(and if people drive thru them ,, they’re still DAMned lucky folks don’t just blow their brains out)


19 posted on 09/22/2016 1:17:04 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: Mr. K

“If my vehicle is surrounded, I am driving over them”

If I felt the only way to preserve my life would be to drive over them, I would too.

The outcome would be just totally nasty. Anyone defending themselves in such a manner would be tried in the MSM much the same way the various cops that have killed these dirt bags have been. More riots would occur at the defendants home, the home would be destroyed and violent acts likely carried out on anyone inside. The cops would try to help, butt our dear democrat/commie friends would just keep race baiting, lying and doing their best to fan whatever flame that may exist.

obama and Hitlery would take to the cameras statements supporting the riots and condemning the innocent.


20 posted on 09/22/2016 1:17:33 PM PDT by redfreedom
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