Posted on 09/22/2016 1:04:37 PM PDT by servo1969
when I say to Hell with the thugs, i do not mean to imply i wish to harm anybody. very much the contrary.
that’s what my requests they let me pass were for
but as brave as i’d act, i would definitely be in terrified fear of my life to be surrounded by a gang of apparently very dangerous and certainly very meanacing law breaking thugs or gangsters, and so while I would drive away at the slowest safe speed consistent with achieving an effective escape from the danger of being killed outright by the thugs, .... and while i hope they would walk out of the path of my vehicle or, failing that, that they would just bounce off unharmed, I would definitely have to continue driving to achieve my escape from a threatening, dangerous surrounded status to a safe haven
then call the police and report what happened, fine and dandy
but GET TO SAFETY !!! that’s priority, otherwise they very well just might carry out their threats and you will be Pushing Up Dasies faster than you can say “ALLAH SUCKS”
“If surrounded by a pack of looting thugs, I’ll put the pedal to the metal and let the chips fall where they may.”
Hell yeah. Rioting thugs are already up to no good by being there in the first place, and it is all a matter of personal protection. Perfectly legal to drive straight down the road.
The lawful occupant gets the presumption of innocence, even if the perp hasn't gottten inside.:
"The lawful occupant of a home, motor vehicle, or workplace is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent death or serious bodily harm to himself or herself or another when using defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or serious bodily harm to another if both of the following apply:
"(1) The person against whom the defensive force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or had unlawfully and forcibly entered, a home, motor vehicle, or workplace, or if that person had removed or was attempting to remove another against that person's will from the home, motor vehicle, or workplace.
"(2) The person who uses defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring or had occurred."
“They were attempting to break into my vehicle and pull me out. I was in fear for my life.”
According to Vice President Joe Biden, you should have your wife fire a shotgun out the back window.
Pennsylvania has Castle Doctrine,also. RUN THEIR AZZES OVER.
Wow, this question presents a huge, moral dilemma.
1) Do I first lay down a supression fire of automatic bullets, then run them down?
2) Do I run them down first and dirty the undercarriage of my vehicle, then shoot?
Note: Get out in reverse. If you hit someone hard enough to set off the air bag you are toast, as air bag deployment will disable the vehicle.
So there you are, having just run down a few folks, dazed from an air bag that just went off in your face, in a car that will not run, surrounded by a mob that is even angrier than before.
I say again, get out in reverse.
I think it’s even better than that. You get the *automatic* presumption that you were in fear for your life, if (1) the perp was illegally and forcibly entering, and (2) you had reason to believe he was.
I was just providing the correct statement to make as far as the statute is concerned, for any driver who might have the misfortune of being caught up in a raucous mob blocking a highway in NC.
Legal in South Africa!!
It is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
I know that patriots are angry about this issue. But common sense says no, do not run down rioters if all they are doing is blocking your vehicle.
Drive a mazda 6. Got hit in the back with the truck doing about 40. No damage!!! PRobably the alignment of truck with bumper.
Either way, mazda 6 isn’t gonna cut it. Gonna have to grab louisville and head out the door!!
Either that or do like me and drive around in a 25 year old truck that does not have airbags. I have the luxury of being able to shift into low gear and plow on through.
No good solution in that scenario, with your vehicle anyway.....have a plan, and have a back-up plan.
I know what you mean.
But I find it interesting (and great!) that from a legal point of view, you could not say anything, and the burden would be on the state to prove that you didn’t fear for your life, rather than on you to prove that you did.
No need to speculate. The guy in the Range Rover wasn’t charged with anything.
I ain’t stopping unless there’s no alternative. If my forcibly stopped vehicle is approached by rioters it will look like Imperial Japanese soldiers piled up in front of a 1st Marine Div. machine gun nest at Guadalcanal.
"...Get out in reverse due to airbag deployment..."
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