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Analysis: Is it lawful self-defense to “run down” rioters surrounding your vehicle?
Legalinsurrection.com ^ | 9-22-2016 | Andrew Branca

Posted on 09/22/2016 1:04:37 PM PDT by servo1969

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To: servo1969

This question reminds me of the Range Rover with a women and two year old inside running over the bikers in NYC, leaving one biker with a spinal cord injury.

Eight bikers ended up being charged.

[FULL] Black Range Rover Runs Over Bikers In NYC Newyork HD
https://youtu.be/V-9WuRnolfQ


61 posted on 09/22/2016 2:02:20 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Mr. K

Nyc motorist ran over biker and was not charged. Never claim you aimed your car for one ...


62 posted on 09/22/2016 2:02:21 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: RC one

There are two responses to ambush: retreat/break-contact and charge. If the ambush is “close” you charge through and counterattack, if the ambush is not “close” then you break contact and maneuver around the ambush — the difficult thing is determining whether you’re in a “close” situation or not.

In a ‘barricade’ situation for civilian vehicles on roads it’s very likely that the retreat (aka avoid) option is restricted — the traffic behind you for one, the buildings and structures to the sides for another, and possibly the oncoming traffic. — Cut off all avenues of escape and only fight is left.


63 posted on 09/22/2016 2:10:25 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: servo1969

I’d run them down. They have every intention of harming those they get their hands on. Run them down.


64 posted on 09/22/2016 2:12:35 PM PDT by VermithraxPejorative
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To: hal ogen

and then, shut the heck up and say nothing.


65 posted on 09/22/2016 2:24:57 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

YEP.


66 posted on 09/22/2016 2:31:03 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Hey Bubba, the exact reason I am in the market for an old pickup, an old Suburban will do as well. Put a reinforced brush guard on the front and we are good to go.


67 posted on 09/22/2016 2:42:50 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Why is the stupid question being asked?

Because there are stupid DAs, Judges, Juries and Governors wanting to run for higher political offices out there.

On top of that, you have the MSM trying desperately to get Hillary elected.

68 posted on 09/22/2016 2:58:51 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: j. earl carter; Fitzy_888; redfreedom

Range Rover driver in NY handled situation about as well as one could in that famous video.
Likely the only other technique that could have been utilized at that time would be coordinating with police to advise of (changing) location.
That video encouraged me to never allow my vehicles to go below a half-tank of fuel for obvious strategic reasons.

69 posted on 09/22/2016 3:05:44 PM PDT by Blue Jays
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To: Sergio
I am in the market for an old pickup, an old Suburban will do as well.

Don't forget the big block and 4-wheel-drive. No replacement for displacement. Lockers on the differentials are a good thing, too. I've seen too many 4x4s get one wheel of each axle in the air and just sit there spinning the free wheels going nowhere.

70 posted on 09/22/2016 3:06:10 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees! - Kipling)
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To: IYAS9YAS; Bubba_Leroy; Sergio

I have always liked the idea of owning a full-size, early-1980s, 4x4, raised truck that appears to be a beater on the outside.
The engine, transmission, brakes, suspension, and HVAC would all be modern with excellent functionality. It would make parking a breeze, too.
In the unlikely event of riots like Charlotte now, the big wheels and 4x4 would give an extra measure of safety. Ice, snow, and sand capability goes without saying.

71 posted on 09/22/2016 3:17:00 PM PDT by Blue Jays
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To: servo1969

In the 60’s, my dad was leaving Walter Reed and drove right into a race riot. My father observed a vehicle in front of him stop for the mob and was attacked and smashed and the driver being yanked out of his car.

My father told me that when he saw that, he downshifted his VW Beetle, hit the gas and the rioters both bounced off the hood and dived out of the way.


72 posted on 09/22/2016 3:28:31 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: servo1969; All

Anyone have any suggestions for a good body cam system?


73 posted on 09/22/2016 3:29:46 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Vote for your guns!)
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To: Navin Johnson

Post 72. . .my dad was in this situation once.


74 posted on 09/22/2016 3:33:30 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: servo1969

Step on the gas and thump, thump,thump. No way I stick around to get pulled out of my car. Not in this lifetime.


75 posted on 09/22/2016 3:34:33 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

There was a variation (in the same article) where blades would sever the perp’s legs a few inches above the ankle...


76 posted on 09/22/2016 3:36:53 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: servo1969

Cars are not bulletproof. You are a sitting target for that or anything coming through the glass. They start doing anything to cars the whole lot ought to start driving and run them all down.


77 posted on 09/22/2016 3:41:11 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: heterosupremacist

No. You get the hell away. You cant legally justify that.


78 posted on 09/22/2016 3:41:53 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: butlerweave

South Africa Special.


79 posted on 09/22/2016 3:42:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

It depends what that single person is doing or intends to do.


80 posted on 09/22/2016 3:43:04 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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