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Analysis: Is it lawful self-defense to “run down” rioters surrounding your vehicle?
Legalinsurrection.com ^ | 9-22-2016 | Andrew Branca

Posted on 09/22/2016 1:04:37 PM PDT by servo1969

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To: Blue Jays; IYAS9YAS; Bubba_Leroy

Raise it up high enough and you can place ball turrets, (belly and dorsal), on it.

No real weapons of course, but some loud electrical noises as the turrets raise or lower themselves from the vehicle, accompanied by a mechanical voice, a la Robocop, saying “You are ordered to disperse, you have three seconds to comply”, would probably induce the crowd to disperse. LOL!

O.K. ... just letting my inner six year old play for a bit.


81 posted on 09/22/2016 3:44:03 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Mr. Douglas

Also disparity of force comes into play. You might be able to use greater force than othersise if you have disparity of force issues on your side.

Surprise attack/ambush, being just one of many examples.


82 posted on 09/22/2016 3:45:10 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Malsua

Exactly. Which is why you go as soon as they start doing anything to other folks vehicles. You dont have to wait to be a victim first.


83 posted on 09/22/2016 3:46:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: HollyB

Well said. You captured my thoughts in a very pithy manner.


84 posted on 09/22/2016 3:48:39 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Go away, Satan! -- Fr.Jacques Hamel (R.I.P., martyr))
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To: Sergio

I thought a hit in reverse could deploy airbags too.

Crap I hadnt thought about this.


85 posted on 09/22/2016 3:49:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

My understanding is that air bag sensors are in the front bumper and in the doors for cars with side air bags.

From www.safercar.gov

Frontal air bags are generally designed to deploy in “moderate to severe” frontal or near-frontal crashes, which are defined as crashes that are equivalent to hitting a solid, fixed barrier at 8 to 14 mph or higher. (This would be equivalent to striking a parked car of similar size at about 16 to 28 mph or higher.)


86 posted on 09/22/2016 4:16:42 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Sergio

Thanks, interesting, good to know.


87 posted on 09/22/2016 4:44:37 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: j. earl carter

The Range Rover guy had a totally different scenario, which was bikers, most likely not at all affiliated with the dem party, Sorros, the BLM or any other racist bunch.

The cops in Baltimore should never have been charged with anything, George Zimmerman (you know, the “white” hispanic), never should have been charged. Much the same as the folks I just mentioned, if anyone kills in self defense a race rioter, they will be charged.


88 posted on 09/22/2016 5:11:14 PM PDT by redfreedom
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To: IYAS9YAS

Apply the brake sparingly, to create drag on the freely turning wheel, forcing some transfer of torque to the one on solid ground. Coordinate simultaneously applying brake pedal and gas pedal to maximize traction.


89 posted on 09/22/2016 8:32:02 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: servo1969
After Glenn Reynolds was banned from Twitter he wrote this on Instapundit:

Twitter can do without me, as I can certainly do without Twitter.

ANOTHER UPDATE: Erik Wemple of the Washington Post emails that “Keep driving” would have been a better formulation of what I was trying to say. It would have been, and in only two words instead of three. But I’ve had over 580,000 tweets, and they can’t all be perfect.

Reynolds was later reinstated.

Here's Reynolds being interviewed by Hugh Hewitt on this subject:

http://www.hughhewitt.com/glenn-reynolds-instapundit-reacts-suspension-twitter/

From that interview:

HH: If you had it to do over again, would you post the same tweet?

GR: Oh, I don’t know, maybe, maybe not. Probably not. It’s got me on the radio with you this morning talking about it instead of having my normal morning.

HH: Yeah.

GR: But I have to say I don’t apologize for the sentiment. I think that this tactic of blocking people on the interstate and surrounding cars is itself violent. It is threatening. It is not peaceful protest, and it should not be permitted.


90 posted on 09/22/2016 9:08:10 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Bigg Red

After seeing that tweet, I was imagining what it would be like to actually be in that situation. I would avoid protest areas like the plague, but one never knows if something like that could occur by some terrible chance.

Praying that never happens!


91 posted on 09/23/2016 7:52:05 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: HollyB

Same here.

And I see a lot of comments around here about shooting or running over people. But even when such actions are done in justifiable self-defense it must be very hard on the shooter afterwards.


92 posted on 09/23/2016 10:12:11 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Go away, Satan! -- Fr.Jacques Hamel (R.I.P., martyr))
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To: Leep
Reginald Denny would have been better off had he kept on truck’n.

Now, now Reggy forgave those thugs, we should too.

93 posted on 09/23/2016 11:23:05 AM PDT by itsahoot (GOP says, Vote Trump. But if your principles won't let you, Hillary is OK.)
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