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The Myth of the 'Gay Conservative'
Scott Lively Ministries ^ | July 28, 2015 | Scott Lively

Posted on 07/29/2016 7:17:06 AM PDT by fwdude

It was with disappointment but not surprise that I read the news about the standing ovation that openly homosexual Silicon Valley billionaire Peter Thiel received at the Republican national convention. It’s being spun by some conservatives as merely appreciation for Thiel breaking ranks with the Trump bashers of Silicon Valley, but in fact there’s a serious problem of moral compromise on the homosexual issue in the GOP and we need to face it for what it is.

Ronald Reagan was not a perfect man, but he was a great man and an outstanding leader whose presidency marked the high point of conservatism in the latter half in the 20th century. In 1983 President Reagan did two things that exemplify the battle of left and right ideologies that still define the culture war: On February 3rd of that year, in a message to the National Prayer Breakfast, he declared 1983 to be “The Year of the Bible,” and one month later in a speech to the National Association of Evangelicals, he declared the Communist Soviet Union to be an “Evil Empire.” In that latter address he contrasted America’s Judeo-Christian heritage with the Atheism of the Soviets, explaining that this contrast was at the heart of the conflict between the US and USSR.

In 1980 Candidate Reagan rode a wave of populist conservatism into the White House, in defiance of the GOP establishment, which was forced to settle for getting their man George Herbert Walker “read my lips” Bush in the VP slot. They bided their time and once Reagan was termed out they went back to steering the ship of state toward the New World Order with Mr. Bush, the former CIA spymaster, at the helm.

But President Reagan had been so effective at articulating conservative values, and so courageous in pushing back against his Cultural Marxist opponents in media, academia and government, that America experienced a massive spiritual, cultural and patriotic revival during the 1980s whose influence lingers even today.

So powerful was Reagan’s impact on the GOP, that the hands of elitists Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain and Romney were publicly tied on the homosexual issue, though the GOP brass kept advancing the “gay” cause behind the scenes. And so powerful was the revival of moral values of the Reagan Revolution on the culture at large, that it’s taken more than a quarter century, millions of hours of pop-culture propaganda, the complete takeover of the US public education system, and the blatant hijacking of the federal judiciary for the Cultural Marxists to undo it.

Reagan’s power did not come from the Party, it came from his Biblical values. And his conservatism was not measured by how many feet it walked behind liberalism on the path to globalism. What he fought to “conserve” was the authentic Christian worldview of the Founding Fathers as embodied in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. He did not accept the Marxist “Tide of History” lie, but pushed boldly in the opposite direction, advancing the Kingdom of God in world affairs and reclaiming lost territory in the domestic culture war. Under Reagan, “American Exceptionalism” was real, and not just a neo-con euphemism for bullying the world.

Ronald Reagan would never have allowed Peter Thiel to use the GOP stage to legitimize homosexuality, nor would the populist conservatives of the Reagan Revolution have ever applauded it.

Reagan knew that true conservatism is absolutely incompatible with the “gay” agenda. The two are as contradictory in principle and practice as marital fidelity and adultery. Every plank of its platform rests on the foundation of the Bible, from private property, to national identity and security, to personal freedom, to law and order: Conservatism stands for the truth of God or it stands for nothing. And the truth of God is clearer on the danger of legitimizing sexual deviance, especially homosexuality, than on any other social policy. It was the Reagan-era Supreme Court that affirmed the right of states to criminalize homosexual sodomy in Bowers v Hardwick (1986) a decision vigorously defended by Reagan appointee Antonin Scalia, his closest ideological ally on the court.

Ronald Reagan reminded America that our enemy was Marxism, that the root of its evil was godlessness, and that its goal was the total elimination of Judeo-Christian civilization. To quote The Communist Manifesto of Marx and Engles directly, “Communists everywhere support every revolutionary movement against the existing social and political order of things.”

The primary tactic of Marxists is syncretism, meaning the blending of two opposing views into a compromised view that’s always one step closer to Marxist goals. It’s called the Marxist Dialectic, and was taught to Soviet schoolchildren with a little dance: “Two Steps Forward, One Step Back — Net Gain One Step.” In other words: Demand a radical leftward change of policy and then compromise with the conservatives so that you get only part of what you demanded, but still move forward toward your goal. That strategy is detailed in astonishingly forthright terms in the must-read LGBT Manifesto, “The Overhauling of Straight America.” http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm

Sadly post-Reagan Republicans have proven to be endlessly gullible and susceptible to this strategy.

Nowhere has this been more obvious than at Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News Network. In 1996 Fox designated itself as the guardian of the conservative hen house and heir to the Reagan legacy, launching what began as a genuinely conservative news network. Over time, however, Fox became merely an arm of the GOP. As Republican elites increasingly capitulated to the Marxist “Tide of History,” especially on LGBT issues, Fox continuously adjusted its personnel and programming to reflect the compromises and make them palatable to the masses.

On behalf of the GOP establishment Fox has led the way in normalizing the myth of the “gay conservative,” and other “conservative” media outlets have followed suit, such as Breitbart with it’s openly “gay,” spotlight-hungry representative “Milo.” But like the truth of the Bible, true conservatism doesn’t “change with the times.” If it abandons its logical presuppositions, such as the resolve to protect civilization from the cancer of sexual degeneracy, then it loses all moral authority. True conservatism must agree with God that “A man must not lie with a man as with a woman. It is an abomination” (Leviticus 18:22).

President Reagan once said in a speech to his conservative supporters “Without God, there is no virtue, because there’s no prompting of the conscience. Without God, we’re mired in the material, that flat world that tells us only what the senses perceive. Without God, there is a coarsening of the society. And without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure. If we ever forget that we’re one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.”

By Reagan’s standard we’re going under. It’s time for conservatives to reject the Marxist-invented myth of the “gay conservative” and get back to Biblical truth.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy
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To: NorthMountain; miss marmelstein

I’m with you both on the Milo thing. He may be right on some things but his gayness is not welcome here. To me, the “left” includes open gays. They must all be defeated


41 posted on 07/29/2016 7:58:39 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel)
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To: baxtelf; All

“Most of my gay friends are not about pushing a social agenda. They just want to be left alone.”

They want to be left alone?

Really, because since 1992 when Bill Clinton was elected all I have heard of is countless reasons whey “they” were supposed to be allowed to serve openly in the military.

I ask the question time and time again, “do openly gay and now openly transgender people being allowed to serve in the military, make the military a more fierce and feared fighting force?”

We all know the answer to that question is a qualified, NO!!!

But, politicians insist, for ddddiiiiiivvvvverrrrsiiiittttyyyy sake, that it must be allowed...So...what is the objective here.

Ask the question, you have one choice it is either diversity, or being the world’s most dominate, fierce, and feared fighting force, what is it?

Because you simply cannot have both. Because in most cases for every quota you fill to appease the diversity gods you are reducing your true combat warrior quota by one...Truth.

Consider this analogy, simply replace every third football player on an NFL team with a kicker or punter, how will that team do? The other 31 teams do not do have to this and they don’t have comply with that rule, honestly, how will that team do? That’s right, while kickers and punters are football players they are not usually your meanest, toughest, fiercest competitors...that team is going to get slaughtered...Truth.

What is going to happened to the US Military if we continue down the path of political correctness, that of pushing a social agenda?


42 posted on 07/29/2016 7:58:53 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: j.argese
Nobody's asking, they're shoving it in our faces even if we don't want to know-things like the Folsom Street Fair? Suing Christian bakers for not decorating cakes to celebrate sodomy? Sodomites act as if they're not about anything except their deviant bedroom practices, that's on them, nobody wanted to know, they want to force the rest of us to not only know it but celebrate it! They act as if their sexuality is their one and only identity!
43 posted on 07/29/2016 7:59:13 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: fwdude
I don’t think “conservatives” are fawning over gays.

You don't think a standing ovation at the NATIONAL RNC over the statement of being "proud to be gay" isn't fawning?

That is absolutely disgusting! How are we going to defeat the Left if we turn against G-d like that? How can we do anything without Him?

What are we fighting for if not Him???

44 posted on 07/29/2016 7:59:40 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: baxtelf

If we had just compromised on slavery, we might have avoided a Civil War. We should just compromise on baby murder.


45 posted on 07/29/2016 8:00:20 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
"So for that reason we're just going to remain silent and retreat as the world rots away all around us? Just how much stuff are we supposed to accept as the Marxist "iron laws of history" unfold? If conservatism isn't standing up to these "iron laws" and fighting ideas such as homosexual "marriage," then what in blazes is it? Is everything money and the economy to you?"

You want to be a prophet go down the streets and preach to the masses. Rent a tent like the guy you fawned over, the hypocrite Ted Cruz. The moral fakeman. This is a guy you supported who wasn't even a man of his word. But I digress.

Also, the whole "he was a man of his time" argument is used by the Left to excuse cultural moral degradation.

No. It's called not thinking ahistorically. Don't try to impute something to him unless you can presume to think for him at this time. You're welcome to do it but if you think that's a "conservative" methodology you're wrong.

46 posted on 07/29/2016 8:00:57 AM PDT by Lent
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To: baxtelf

Gay friends, huh? I work with lots of gays and transgenders but I don’t call them friends. My friends are people I share common values with, and those people don’t see the world the way I do.

As far as compromising on abortion, I don’t compromise on evil. Killing babies is killing babies, whether its at 12 weeks or 20 weeks, disabled babies, girl babies, or babies conceived in rape. NO COMPROMISE


47 posted on 07/29/2016 8:01:44 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel)
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To: mrsmel
Amen. I have been flabbergasted that that Milo guy, the latest sodomite "hero" for the right (not conservatives) is lauded and fawned over. This is the guy who is present at a a sodomite party which includes decorations consisting of pictures of naked, or almost naked, young (as in juvenile) boys. Is the right this desperate? What next, if a high-profile pedophile agrees with us on the Second Amendment and lower taxes, will we embrace him because hey, we need those pedophile votes too? Let the left have them!

Amen! I don't want them! No sane person would want to be allied with such perversion! They are what the Left is all about, and a "proud" homosexual conservative is the same thing as a square circle--an oxymoron.

You and I both know why some "right wingers" adore him. He represents the hard-line Israel-and-Jew-hating "alt right." For some evil malignancies, hating the Jews and Israel is the only thing that matters.

48 posted on 07/29/2016 8:02:47 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: VanDeKoik
Conservatism is retreating on almost every front because they got fat and lazy and self-righteous.

If the left can be commended on one thing, it's that they get an 'A' in persistence, real-world activism and the courage of their convictions - UNlike many conservatives.

I've said before that conservatives could have the economy eating out of their hands and mandate what large corporations advocate, EASILY, with the power of the purse. And yet, I can't count on 100 hands how many so-called "conservatives" I am familiar with who still patronize Starbucks, The Home Depot, and other radically leftist businesses. They just don't care or are too damn lazy to do anything about it.

49 posted on 07/29/2016 8:03:06 AM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

“You and I both know why some “right wingers” adore him. He represents the hard-line Israel-and-Jew-hating “alt right.””

And I thought the left-wingers on Reddit were the kooks.


50 posted on 07/29/2016 8:04:43 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: LittleBillyInfidel

Agreed. Should we, as Christians, not follow the example of Christ? Homosexuals are sinners. How did Jesus deal with sinners? Did He reject sinners, tell them to go away, and refuse to associate Himself with sinners? Of course not; Jesus preached to the sinners. Jesus loved sinners. It is sinners that Jesus came to save. Of course He tried to teach sinners to recognize and correct their sinful behaviors. It was not Jesus, but rather the Jewish leaders who sat rightiously in judgement of sinners.

Should we follow the example of Christ and love homosexuals, all the while trying to show them that there’s a better way to live or should we follow the Pharisees’ example and completely dissociate ourselves from them and write them off as a lost cause? If we do this with the sinners whose sin is homosexuality, why not other sinners too? If we weed ALL sinners out, are we not left with nobody? After all, we are all sinners. We all require the salvation offered by Christ.


51 posted on 07/29/2016 8:05:48 AM PDT by stremba
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To: longfellowsmuse

Some of the same people castigating Christians for doing nothing castigated the Morla Majority movement for “injecting religion” into politcs, as if Christians shouldn’t have a special interest as much as any other group, and accused them of attempting to foist a theocracy on the US. Christians can’t win with these people-either we don’t do enough, or when we actually speak up in the political arena, we’re trying to force theocracy.


52 posted on 07/29/2016 8:07:20 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: VanDeKoik
But we better not promote people that share more than enough of our positions to stay brave and keep on fighting against common foes.

Oh. So you do welcome neo-Nazis and anti-Semites, then. All for the sake of numbers. And perverts too. Good to know. The only thing is, since G-d hating perverts are part of your coalition, then what are you fighting for? It certainly isn't "conservatism" by any definition that I'm aware of.

The stupidity of the right to sabotage themselves never ceases to amaze me.

Provoking the wrath of G-d seems to me the quintessential way of sabotaging oneself. Of course, I suppose atheist "conservatives" would disagree.

53 posted on 07/29/2016 8:07:34 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: VanDeKoik

I didn’t say I won’t vote for Trump-I am, nose firmly held-but I won’t make nice with sodomites trying to sneak acceptance of the sodomite agenda through the back door of conservatism.


54 posted on 07/29/2016 8:09:11 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: VanDeKoik
Because he does the job most conservatives are too lazy or cowardly to do.

You mean pederasty? Thank G-d I'm too cowardly to do that!

Since you celebrate homosexuality, why are you on a conservative forum? Shouldn't you be on a Communist forum somewhere?

55 posted on 07/29/2016 8:09:14 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: mrsmel
We should just compromise on baby murder.

Compromise = allowing Rats to use the terms "women's health care choice/freedom" as their cover for infanticide.

56 posted on 07/29/2016 8:10:01 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Maelstorm

“Let’s have lots of new technology and growth and stop the “fake culture wars,” said Thiel.”

Fake culture wars = caring that private business owners were forced to let men into their women’s exclusive areas.

Fake culture wars = the NC law gave the choice back to private business owners in Charlotte as to who can use their women’s exclusive areas. Trump and Target can let men into their women’s bathrooms if they want to in their NC properties.

I’m just not seeing what the heck is so fake about the culture wars or this transgender issue. As far as pols using these issues and really not caring about it, that surely does happen. But even so it’s not like folks haven’t been punished for not buying into ‘gay marriage’ either.

Freegards


57 posted on 07/29/2016 8:10:41 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: circlecity

He didn’t lead parades celebrating adultery and try to make the country embrace it as a positive thing to celebrated (as the sodomites do, even to the point of forcing “tolerance”, by which they mean celebration).


58 posted on 07/29/2016 8:11:02 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: VanDeKoik
Well then I fully expect you to find you doing what he does in minute now.

You have a dirty mind, don't you?

Slither back into your bathhouse.

59 posted on 07/29/2016 8:12:40 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

“Since you celebrate homosexuality, why are you on a conservative forum?”

Seriously? I’m cheering AMERICANS that are fighting against the same people that are fighting against me. I don’t care what or who they are.

Why are YOU on this forum for no other reason other than to virtue signal? Congrats you win keyboard warrior of the century.

When I see you risk yourself like Milo Yiannopoulos then I will applaud you.

As long as you sit on your self-righteous ass and shoot off your mouth about how you are too good to fight alongside a person that is standing up to some pretty dangerous people on the behalf of ungrateful snobs, then you can sod off.


60 posted on 07/29/2016 8:14:52 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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