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The Myth of the 'Gay Conservative'
Scott Lively Ministries ^ | July 28, 2015 | Scott Lively

Posted on 07/29/2016 7:17:06 AM PDT by fwdude

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It is getting alarming that even so-called conservatives fawn over "gays" when they seemingly advocate for free-market economics or gun rights. Let's not get suckered in; the gay agenda is relentless and malicious, no matter what other supposed "correct positions" they claim to hold. The vast majority of the time, this is a lie - the left, which includes homosexual "rights" advocates, is extremely monolithic in its leftist belief system, and you're very unlikely to find any area of real departure from it. "A house divided against itself...."
1 posted on 07/29/2016 7:17:06 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude

Most of my gay friends are not about pushing a social agenda. They just want to be left alone. This idea that all gays want the throw it in our faces is yet another lie by the left to divide us. We need to get away from the manufactured fights and stand together on the things we do agree on. There will never be a winning party that agrees 100% on everything because you limit the number of people you can attract. You have to take the wins you can get.

For instance on abortion, if we had been willing to compromise we could have gotten much stronger restrictions placed on it but people with an all or nothing attitude sunk that ship.


2 posted on 07/29/2016 7:27:03 AM PDT by baxtelf
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To: fwdude

Agree. Thank you for posting because I, too, have been heavily troubled. Y this and the Milo thing.


3 posted on 07/29/2016 7:27:35 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel)
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To: fwdude

Oh, yeah, I’ve been pummelled here for expressing doubt about Milo Yiannopolis.


4 posted on 07/29/2016 7:28:33 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: fwdude

Thiel gets no applause from me. Like applauding a burglar or a pirate of some sort..


5 posted on 07/29/2016 7:29:26 AM PDT by farming pharmer (www.sterlingheightsreport.com)
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To: fwdude

So people that are actually trying to help defeat the fricking left should be rejected?

How about for every one of them you can round up some of these better Christians to get off their ass and pull their weight!

While you have a Milo putting himself out there taking the fight to these people, there are 1,000 “wholesome and biblical” folks just sitting on their butts, and shaking their fists at their screen while they pass bible quotes wondering if this is the “end times”.

If these people were doing their jobs, we would be in the position we are in now.

So to those Christians I say SUCK IT UP. You dont have the luxury of picking and choosing your allies after pissing away opportunities to keep these people out of office.


6 posted on 07/29/2016 7:33:37 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: miss marmelstein

“Oh, yeah, I’ve been pummelled here for expressing doubt about Milo Yiannopolis.”

Dont like him? Well then take his place and do what he is doing.

Too many people on the Christian right want to be rewarded for feeling morally superior and failing at almost everything politically.


7 posted on 07/29/2016 7:35:30 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

Agreed.I don’t think “conservatives” are fawning over gays. But what I think is wrong is trying to use Reagan as a prop for this argument. Reagan was a man of his generation and I’m inclined to think as this author, “Reagan was silent on same-sex marriage, as was everyone of his generation. He, like all liberals of his time, could not have conceived of same-sex marriage, and he, like the entirety of the Democratic Party just a decade or two ago, unwaveringly supported traditional marriage.”http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/01/opinion/kengor-reagan-same-sex-marriage/

But leaving the issue of same sex marriage aside what was plainly evident is that Reagan was tolerant of gays despite how the left tried to portray him (aids issue etc.).


8 posted on 07/29/2016 7:41:55 AM PDT by Lent
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To: baxtelf
“We need to get away from the manufactured fights and stand together on the things we do agree on.”

The author of the article anticipated your comment when he wrote: “Sadly post-Reagan Republicans have proven to be endlessly gullible and susceptible to this strategy.”

9 posted on 07/29/2016 7:42:05 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: fwdude
By Reagan’s standard we’re going under. It’s time for conservatives to reject the Marxist-invented myth of the “gay conservative” and get back to Biblical truth.

It is getting alarming that even so-called conservatives fawn over "gays" when they seemingly advocate for free-market economics or gun rights. Let's not get suckered in; the gay agenda is relentless and malicious, no matter what other supposed "correct positions" they claim to hold.

Amen!!! Conservatism is retreating on almost every front because every time the Left makes a "minority" of some group of perverts the "Right" wants to start appealing to them!

10 posted on 07/29/2016 7:42:24 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: fwdude

I can’t figure out these “New Wordl Order” types...

If they want the entire world to be united, then why not uinte them with a conseervative plateform. A platform that is not only surprisingly (to them) popular, but WORKS.

It would be great if the whole world worked as well.


11 posted on 07/29/2016 7:43:53 AM PDT by Mr. K (Trump will win NY state - choke on that HilLIARy)
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To: fwdude; All

Was a time, not too long ago, when people knew it was impolite to ask how much you made, where you went to church and what you did behind closed doors with another consulting adult.


12 posted on 07/29/2016 7:45:24 AM PDT by j.argese (/s tags: If you have a mind unnecessary. If you're a cretin it really doesn't matter, does it?)
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Homosexuality is diseased.

According to studies by major (liberal) universities:

Murder rate is 10-20 times normal. (TIMES not percent).
Suicide rate is 20 times normal.
Serious disease rate is 20 times normal.

It is destructive physical, mentally and spiritually. It is destructive to the culture. It is expensive.

The behavior should, at the very least be shamed and pushed back into the closet. Not embraced.


13 posted on 07/29/2016 7:45:26 AM PDT by TheTimeOfMan (Three Percenter - Cruz/West)
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To: baxtelf
Most of my gay friends are not about pushing a social agenda. They just want to be left alone. This idea that all gays want the throw it in our faces is yet another lie by the left to divide us. We need to get away from the manufactured fights and stand together on the things we do agree on. There will never be a winning party that agrees 100% on everything because you limit the number of people you can attract. You have to take the wins you can get.

Divide "us?" So now you're including homosexuals (not "gays") in "us?" Kindly include me out of any such grouping.

For instance on abortion, if we had been willing to compromise we could have gotten much stronger restrictions placed on it but people with an all or nothing attitude sunk that ship.

[sarcasm] Oh yes. Because libertarianism and capitalism are so much more important than the Will of A-mighty G-d. [/sarcasm]

14 posted on 07/29/2016 7:45:30 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: baxtelf

I’m with you, 100% and also share your experience. So, if self-righteous Christian conservatives want to disavow homosexuals in the party, then they’ll also need to both judge then disavow every other unrepentant sinner as well as atheists, Jews, agnostics, and any other non-conforming New Testament un-scriptural man made denominations like Catholics and Mormons. Yeah, just shut the doors to the church and to the party.


15 posted on 07/29/2016 7:46:12 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: baxtelf

“Since Feb 9, 2016.”


16 posted on 07/29/2016 7:46:16 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: surroundedbyblue
Agree. Thank you for posting because I, too, have been heavily troubled. Y this and the Milo thing.

Amen!

17 posted on 07/29/2016 7:46:58 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: fwdude
Homosexuality and conservatism are diametrically opposed. There is no such thing as a homo conservative, just like there's no such thing as a catdog, hot-cold water, or a common sense liberal. Don't let them set the terms of the debate...if you hear someone calling someone a "gay" conservative, straighten them out on BOTH words!

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho! God Bless Texas!

18 posted on 07/29/2016 7:47:00 AM PDT by wku man (Just One Gun, the latest from 10 Pound Test - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6uFqQenIU4)
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To: miss marmelstein
Oh, yeah, I’ve been pummelled here for expressing doubt about Milo Yiannopolis.

He's a disgusting little pervert. Why would any conservative support him?

19 posted on 07/29/2016 7:48:07 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: akalinin
Like applauding a burglar or a pirate of some sort..

I see what you did there. ;'}

20 posted on 07/29/2016 7:48:17 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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