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The Myth of the 'Gay Conservative'
Scott Lively Ministries ^ | July 28, 2015 | Scott Lively

Posted on 07/29/2016 7:17:06 AM PDT by fwdude

It was with disappointment but not surprise that I read the news about the standing ovation that openly homosexual Silicon Valley billionaire Peter Thiel received at the Republican national convention. It’s being spun by some conservatives as merely appreciation for Thiel breaking ranks with the Trump bashers of Silicon Valley, but in fact there’s a serious problem of moral compromise on the homosexual issue in the GOP and we need to face it for what it is.

Ronald Reagan was not a perfect man, but he was a great man and an outstanding leader whose presidency marked the high point of conservatism in the latter half in the 20th century. In 1983 President Reagan did two things that exemplify the battle of left and right ideologies that still define the culture war: On February 3rd of that year, in a message to the National Prayer Breakfast, he declared 1983 to be “The Year of the Bible,” and one month later in a speech to the National Association of Evangelicals, he declared the Communist Soviet Union to be an “Evil Empire.” In that latter address he contrasted America’s Judeo-Christian heritage with the Atheism of the Soviets, explaining that this contrast was at the heart of the conflict between the US and USSR.

In 1980 Candidate Reagan rode a wave of populist conservatism into the White House, in defiance of the GOP establishment, which was forced to settle for getting their man George Herbert Walker “read my lips” Bush in the VP slot. They bided their time and once Reagan was termed out they went back to steering the ship of state toward the New World Order with Mr. Bush, the former CIA spymaster, at the helm.

But President Reagan had been so effective at articulating conservative values, and so courageous in pushing back against his Cultural Marxist opponents in media, academia and government, that America experienced a massive spiritual, cultural and patriotic revival during the 1980s whose influence lingers even today.

So powerful was Reagan’s impact on the GOP, that the hands of elitists Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain and Romney were publicly tied on the homosexual issue, though the GOP brass kept advancing the “gay” cause behind the scenes. And so powerful was the revival of moral values of the Reagan Revolution on the culture at large, that it’s taken more than a quarter century, millions of hours of pop-culture propaganda, the complete takeover of the US public education system, and the blatant hijacking of the federal judiciary for the Cultural Marxists to undo it.

Reagan’s power did not come from the Party, it came from his Biblical values. And his conservatism was not measured by how many feet it walked behind liberalism on the path to globalism. What he fought to “conserve” was the authentic Christian worldview of the Founding Fathers as embodied in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. He did not accept the Marxist “Tide of History” lie, but pushed boldly in the opposite direction, advancing the Kingdom of God in world affairs and reclaiming lost territory in the domestic culture war. Under Reagan, “American Exceptionalism” was real, and not just a neo-con euphemism for bullying the world.

Ronald Reagan would never have allowed Peter Thiel to use the GOP stage to legitimize homosexuality, nor would the populist conservatives of the Reagan Revolution have ever applauded it.

Reagan knew that true conservatism is absolutely incompatible with the “gay” agenda. The two are as contradictory in principle and practice as marital fidelity and adultery. Every plank of its platform rests on the foundation of the Bible, from private property, to national identity and security, to personal freedom, to law and order: Conservatism stands for the truth of God or it stands for nothing. And the truth of God is clearer on the danger of legitimizing sexual deviance, especially homosexuality, than on any other social policy. It was the Reagan-era Supreme Court that affirmed the right of states to criminalize homosexual sodomy in Bowers v Hardwick (1986) a decision vigorously defended by Reagan appointee Antonin Scalia, his closest ideological ally on the court.

Ronald Reagan reminded America that our enemy was Marxism, that the root of its evil was godlessness, and that its goal was the total elimination of Judeo-Christian civilization. To quote The Communist Manifesto of Marx and Engles directly, “Communists everywhere support every revolutionary movement against the existing social and political order of things.”

The primary tactic of Marxists is syncretism, meaning the blending of two opposing views into a compromised view that’s always one step closer to Marxist goals. It’s called the Marxist Dialectic, and was taught to Soviet schoolchildren with a little dance: “Two Steps Forward, One Step Back — Net Gain One Step.” In other words: Demand a radical leftward change of policy and then compromise with the conservatives so that you get only part of what you demanded, but still move forward toward your goal. That strategy is detailed in astonishingly forthright terms in the must-read LGBT Manifesto, “The Overhauling of Straight America.” http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm

Sadly post-Reagan Republicans have proven to be endlessly gullible and susceptible to this strategy.

Nowhere has this been more obvious than at Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News Network. In 1996 Fox designated itself as the guardian of the conservative hen house and heir to the Reagan legacy, launching what began as a genuinely conservative news network. Over time, however, Fox became merely an arm of the GOP. As Republican elites increasingly capitulated to the Marxist “Tide of History,” especially on LGBT issues, Fox continuously adjusted its personnel and programming to reflect the compromises and make them palatable to the masses.

On behalf of the GOP establishment Fox has led the way in normalizing the myth of the “gay conservative,” and other “conservative” media outlets have followed suit, such as Breitbart with it’s openly “gay,” spotlight-hungry representative “Milo.” But like the truth of the Bible, true conservatism doesn’t “change with the times.” If it abandons its logical presuppositions, such as the resolve to protect civilization from the cancer of sexual degeneracy, then it loses all moral authority. True conservatism must agree with God that “A man must not lie with a man as with a woman. It is an abomination” (Leviticus 18:22).

President Reagan once said in a speech to his conservative supporters “Without God, there is no virtue, because there’s no prompting of the conscience. Without God, we’re mired in the material, that flat world that tells us only what the senses perceive. Without God, there is a coarsening of the society. And without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure. If we ever forget that we’re one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.”

By Reagan’s standard we’re going under. It’s time for conservatives to reject the Marxist-invented myth of the “gay conservative” and get back to Biblical truth.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2016rncconvention; homosexualagenda
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To: TheTimeOfMan
"The behavior should, at the very least be shamed and pushed back into the closet. Not embraced."

My thoughts exactly.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho! God Bless Texas!

21 posted on 07/29/2016 7:48:32 AM PDT by wku man (Just One Gun, the latest from 10 Pound Test - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6uFqQenIU4)
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To: miss marmelstein
I’ve been pummelled here for expressing doubt about Milo Yiannopolis.

You're right to express those doubts. I find him creepy and repulsive.

22 posted on 07/29/2016 7:49:03 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: VanDeKoik
So people that are actually trying to help defeat the fricking left should be rejected?

I, for one, most certainly do. Are you implying we should welcome anti-Semites and neo-Nazis with open arms because they're against the Left???

Homosexuals fall in the same category.

23 posted on 07/29/2016 7:50:15 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: Lent
I don’t think “conservatives” are fawning over gays.

You don't think a standing ovation at the NATIONAL RNC over the statement of being "proud to be gay" isn't fawning?

24 posted on 07/29/2016 7:50:29 AM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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To: fwdude
Amen. I have been flabbergasted that that Milo guy, the latest sodomite "hero" for the right (not conservatives) is lauded and fawned over. This is the guy who is present at a a sodomite party which includes decorations consisting of pictures of naked, or almost naked, young (as in juvenile) boys. Is the right this desperate? What next, if a high-profile pedophile agrees with us on the Second Amendment and lower taxes, will we embrace him because hey, we need those pedophile votes too? Let the left have them!
25 posted on 07/29/2016 7:51:09 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: miss marmelstein

I’ll stand right with you miss marmelstein and we’ll just pummel back.


26 posted on 07/29/2016 7:52:09 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Mr. K
If they want the entire world to be united, then why not uinte them with a conseervative plateform. A platform that is not only surprisingly (to them) popular, but WORKS.

"New World Order" types don't want the world united together, they want the peons united under them. If we united together on the conservative platform, there'd be no place for "New World Order" types.

From Chaos, Order.

They can't control you if you have freedom and the means to protect it.

27 posted on 07/29/2016 7:52:46 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Warning: This post has little to do with reality, and nothing to do with polite society.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Why would any conservative support him?

Define "conservative". Seriously ... I no longer know what the term means. People call themselves (or are called by others) "conservatives" whom Bill Buckley would never have recognized as such.

As is, many who profess to be "conservatives" are in fact libertines and perverts who happen to agree more or less with free market economic ideas.

28 posted on 07/29/2016 7:53:20 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Conservatism is retreating on almost every front because they got fat and lazy and self-righteous.

Sitting at home in 2012. Ditching candidates on petty crap. Never following-up on defeating all of the gay marriage referendums in 2002. Turning the Tea Party into nothing but a toothless movement that just collected money for a few people. Leaving the internet to be taken over by the left, while depending on a ever-shrinking group of AM talk radio millionaires as a form of audio opium that made it seem like we were totally beating the left because they said so on the radio.

And dont get me started on the “NeverTrump” idiots
All the while the left actually worked for their goals, and kept winning! Now we are actively being censored on various platforms, and being attacked in the streets.

But we better not promote people that share more than enough of our positions to stay brave and keep on fighting against common foes.

The stupidity of the right to sabotage themselves never ceases to amaze me.


29 posted on 07/29/2016 7:53:25 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Zionist Conspirator

“He’s a disgusting little pervert. Why would any conservative support him? “

Because he does the job most conservatives are too lazy or cowardly to do.


30 posted on 07/29/2016 7:54:04 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: fwdude

I didn’t see Thiel as pushing a homosexual agenda at all. He clearly emphasized Americanism and derided issues like transgender bathrooms. This is not the first time that an open gay spoke at a convention and Thiel did not do it to showcase his homosexuality. I’ll never be proud of his lifestyle or support him because of it but I will stand with anyone who loves America enough to set aside their identity politics for love of country and that is why he received a standing ovation not because he was gay.

George W Bush may have used the ssm issue to help win elections but while he did that he was betraying us appointing activist lgbt republicans to high positions in his administration. Just look at the list of who signed on to support the illegal ruling forcing ssm on all 50 states. Getting bent out of shape over one gay who cares more about the welfare of this country than all the hate and adversity he is going to face for speaking in favor of Trump is foolish giving that we at via the Bushes a homosexual elevated to be RNC chairman.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Supreme-Court-gay-marriage-Republicans-Ken-Mehlman/2015/03/06/id/628714/


31 posted on 07/29/2016 7:54:04 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Free is just another word for someone else has to pay.)
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To: Lent
Agreed.I don’t think “conservatives” are fawning over gays.

They're certainly fawning over one "gay" in particular, and trying to appeal to the rest of them.

But what I think is wrong is trying to use Reagan as a prop for this argument. Reagan was a man of his generation and I’m inclined to think as this author, “Reagan was silent on same-sex marriage, as was everyone of his generation. He, like all liberals of his time, could not have conceived of same-sex marriage, and he, like the entirety of the Democratic Party just a decade or two ago, unwaveringly supported traditional marriage.”

So for that reason we're just going to remain silent and retreat as the world rots away all around us? Just how much stuff are we supposed to accept as the Marxist "iron laws of history" unfold? If conservatism isn't standing up to these "iron laws" and fighting ideas such as homosexual "marriage," then what in blazes is it? Is everything money and the economy to you?

Also, the whole "he was a man of his time" argument is used by the Left to excuse cultural moral degradation.

32 posted on 07/29/2016 7:54:05 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: fwdude

I don’t. Maybe think about this. Even in the face of overwhelming castigation by his own on the left he supports other than pure leftist principles. That alone is worthy of consideration and applause.


33 posted on 07/29/2016 7:54:14 AM PDT by Lent
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To: VanDeKoik

Oh yes I do have the “luxury”-I call it the duty-to reject making common cause with a man who attends functions decorated with paedo-erotica. I wouldn’t make common cause with Satan to defeat evil either. There’s a catch in that, and it’s the price of my soul.


34 posted on 07/29/2016 7:54:27 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: VanDeKoik

Let’s put the blame where it belongs, on the left and the complicit media. Good Christians who are troubled by the public acceptance of homosexuality and immorality will vote for Trump. We have to it is a no brainer. It is also not accurate that all Christians sit on their bums. The left and the media are the people making a big deal about this man’s sexual choices, they are trying to get the christian conservatives to stay home. The reason why we have lost the “culture wars” is because conservatives allow the left to define the narrative, and many socially conservative people cower in fear of being labeled. For example look at the term “homophobe” it is a ridiculous slur meant to silence people who believe the gay life style is wrong. ( christians aren’t afraid of gays, lets be serious) Instead of calling out the people who define the terms we cower in fear of being labeled. What many people seem to lack isn’t the ability to follow the party line and vote for Trump, it’s the courage to stand up to the narrative of the left and until we can do that we will lose every time.


35 posted on 07/29/2016 7:54:33 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: VanDeKoik

Like Mark Steyn has said, the conservative movement hasn’t been moving in decades.


36 posted on 07/29/2016 7:54:44 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Zionist Conspirator

“I, for one, most certainly do”

Well then I fully expect you to find you doing what he does in minute now.

Are you? No? Too busy?

Ok, then. Sit there and feel morally superior and smug on your rear end and let this guy do what he is doing even for people that hate him for doing it.


37 posted on 07/29/2016 7:56:02 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: LittleBillyInfidel
I’m with you, 100% and also share your experience. So, if self-righteous Christian conservatives want to disavow homosexuals in the party, then they’ll also need to both judge then disavow every other unrepentant sinner as well as atheists, Jews, agnostics, and any other non-conforming New Testament un-scriptural man made denominations like Catholics and Mormons. Yeah, just shut the doors to the church and to the party.

I'm not a chrstian at all.

Since you identify morality as a chrstian monopoly, you obviously are.

38 posted on 07/29/2016 7:56:16 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: mrsmel

“I wouldn’t make common cause with Satan to defeat evil either. There’s a catch in that, and it’s the price of my soul.”

Well I’m more interested in stopping this nation from turning into the hell SJWs are pushing it to be, so that my younger relatives can live in free country.

If Jesus kicks my ass for it, then so be it.


39 posted on 07/29/2016 7:58:08 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: fwdude

But wasn’t Reagan divorced and remarried? And didn’t that make him an adulterer according to Jesus? This is not intended as a knock on Reagan, it just seems we can be a bit hypocritical on things.


40 posted on 07/29/2016 7:58:31 AM PDT by circlecity
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