Posted on 06/14/2016 2:05:40 PM PDT by chuckles
I just wanted to stop and take a breath here before the media hand feeds us a meme that will live forever in people's minds. The initial attack in Orlando brought several meme's out of the woodwork but what stuck initially was the shooters name was Arab so bing, bang, boom, there's the answer. I agree Islam is from the devil and deserves much scrutiny for any philosophy that condones killing women, homosexuals, Christians, all infidels, and of course other Muslims that don't think just like you do. And of course, the automatic gun control effort rears it's ugly head again due to the very reason I am bringing up right now.
The meme the media ascribes to a story lasts way beyond the actual conclusion of any investigation and makes it into history as truth, whether that is the case or not. Just as the lie that Christians murdered Mathew Shepard, we later found out they were both dope dealers and one stole the others money and was murdered for it. They were both homosexuals and I don't know of any church they frequented, but it somehow was ascribed as a homophobic murder by out of control Christians. Ask anyone today what it was and it will be intolerant Christians murdering a homosexual. Nothing about drugs and nothing about the other homosexual.
Another meme not advertised anywhere is many if not most of the serial killers in history have been homosexuals. John Wayne Gacey molested children and men and then murdered them, but no one seems to connect they they were all male. Jeffery Dahmer got the same treatment. Most that even know the story relate him with eating his victims, but somehow it's left out that he was homosexual.
Now we have a Muslim murderer that it looks more like he may have been a homosexual. It's easier to tie mass murder with Islam than to being a homosexual because that's not the meme the media has been building. I'm writing this just to pose some questions before this gets nailed down in people's mind.
Just as a hypothetical thought process, lets explore another meme that could be real. His Father seems to be against sodomy and devout in Islam. He has been a disappointment to his father. He marries to complete the charade to the world. You can't tell me this doesn't happen many times in the homosexual world to try to fit in. Finally he succumbs to his inner demons and experiences his innermost fleshly needs and is so disgusted that he is in the terrible place of knowing he has just fell into a no win situation of placating the world and satisfying his flesh. Many psychiatrists in the past would describe homosexuals as "self loathing". Dahmer made statements like this during his captivity that he was so ashamed of what he did that he killed the witness and his family would never find out. Having sex with a corpse was acceptable because they were compliant and didn't fight so much giving him more time do do as he wished.
My point is, if the media wants to cut the investigation short and stamp it "Terrorism", that might now explore all the contributing factors that may have played a part. What if he decided to attack Disney? What if he attacked a school? But he somehow chose a homosexual bar that he frequented in the past. We would never want to attach mental illness with homosexuality so there is nothing to see here, please move on. Aren't we all "proud" now? Aren't we all out of the closet now?
I just hope we study this completely instead of just moving on and accepting the meme hand fed to us by the media.
Other examples that just irk me to no end is "Clinton's economy was good". I lived through that time and the first couple of years was a tax hike, followed by a sick economy, and the Dems were thrown out and replaced with the Republican majority led by Newt Gingrich. They were the ones that cut taxes, cut spending, balanced the budget and forced Clinton to accept welfare reform. Today, we are still fed that Bill Clinton was the cause of the "Clinton" economy. Just as Obama will be credited with killing Osama forever, even though Bush did everything humanly possible, including waterboarding, to get him. But Obama didn't have to waterboard to kill Osama. Can you see how the meme that is left becomes important for the future? Greedy bankers caused the economic crash in 2007, even though Bush and McCain tried to stop lending money to people that couldn't pay it back. The whole Black Lives Matter movement is based on vapor. Travon Martin stalked Zimmerman for 4 minutes and started the confrontation according to the prosecution's own witness. Oh, and Zimmerman isn't even white. The blacks that have been killed illegally are being decided as we type right now. Some are obviously shot in the back as they put up no struggle, and they will be decided in court where they belong, so what's the gripe? Mikey Brown was proven that he struggled for the officer's gun and never raised his hands, but you see what we have today. Just ask 10 years from now what happened there and they will tell you the police murdered him with his hands up. This has gone on in Waco and Ruby Ridge ans countless other examples.
If this turns out that Orlando was caused by mental illness over homosexual guilt, we will go to war and kill Muslims over a lie. I don't have a problem over war with ISIS, but at least let's keep it for the right reasons. It's always important to pursue the truth even if it doesn't fit the meme you want to put forward. There is so much of this now, we can't tell the truth from the lies. I would imagine most voters don't even know Obama was raised in Indonesia as a Muslim, learned the Quran, and speaks Farsi. When we look at his bizarre relationship with Muslims and Muslim countries, they can't imagine that he likes them, thinks like them, and probably believes much of what they believe. It's too late to even bring these things up now because most will think we are still worried about his Birth Cert. Just as people have forgotten when Bush 43 attacked Iraq, we were under a cease fire from 41, Saddam was firing daily at out aircraft, and not cooperating with any of the items on the cease fire agreement. He didn't even need to ask for permission to attack Iraq even though he did. Does anyone remember Iraq planned to assassinate Bush 41 and was caught.
If the media gets to dictate what the meme will be on a subject, they are manipulating the younger people as to how they should think. That makes them vulnerable to the Left for the next 50 years. If you can believe it, they are about to allow blood donations from homosexuals again. Somehow now that marriage is OK, they must be as clean as the next fellow. This is how we get men standing around in women's restrooms because they will argue the trannies never hurt women. When you ask what about the pervert that just got out of prison, they look at you like what are you talking about, the law is for trannies. Somebody has convinced them that the man in the bathroom is somehow OK now. It matters where the motives lie as we see now in Europe where White women offer up their daughters to these innocent mistreated Muslims running for their lives. If we find out that Orlando came from a man ashamed or maybe even a jilted lover, does that really matter how we feel about Muslims? Not really, but I still prefer the truth.
The shooting of the church members in S. Carolina was finally resolved by banning the Confederate flag. Yep, that should save the day. But of course, Roof was an atheist punk filled with demons, who admitted he was racist, so the media classified him as Christian. All they could come up with was a picture of Roof with the "Stars and Bars", so that became the meme of the day. Many here see "Muslim" and their mind is shut down, so they quit looking. I say, Take in Muslim, take in homosexual, and keep looking. What if we find later he gave money to Obama? What if we find out Valerie Jarrett is from Iran? What if we find out Hillary has connections with the Muslim Brotherhood?
Naw, lets just hear "Muslim" and move on.
I agree that "Muslim" is the reason given, I just wonder if that's all we can know.
We also have his wife now. You see, there is more to find out.
Suvivors in the club report that the reason he gave, was that he wanted the US military to stop bombing his country. Textbook definition of terrorism, action intended to advance a political agenda.
Only an idiot moron doesn’t know Mohamed had a 9 yo wife. They use that as a reason they are allowed to do almost anything they want with either sex. In Muslim villages, they all know who is abusing children, but seem not to care. They will beat a woman to death if they see her ankles, but take turns raping an 8 yo boy.
He was looking at Disney also.
Yeah, I’m seeing more accounts now. The first guy alone wasn’t all that credible, but it’s getting harder to ignore.
Exactly! Thank God for a good guy with a a gun.
I suspect that if this post were made by a Noob, there’d be the smell of ozone in the air.
That's ignorant, sir.
I contend that anyone who's been paying attention to our ongoing fight against radical Islam understands that homosexuality and radical Islam often go hand-in-hand. You can add 'mental illness' to mix and still be entirely correct. None of them individually preclude the other symptoms.
Otherwise, explain the following:
-- Any Western service member patrolling the tribal areas of Afghanistan and Iraq can tell you plainly about the evidence of homosexual and homosexual pedophilic relationships amongst both the jihadis as well as the people we're supposed to be 'allied' with against the terrorists. Oh dear, what some servicemen have seen through NVGs and thermal FLIR sights being conducted by jihadis during an operation -- and then they turn around and kill a US soldier they're embedded with. "Man/Boy Thursday", and so on, and even their platoon's own attached native interpreters and cultural liasions forging homosexual relations with one another. Learn what kind of contents are in the 'pocket litter' that US forces have found on dead jihadis during our wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Even the NY Times reported on the huge porn stash found on Osama bin Laden's computers and thumb drives. So much for jihadi sexual ethics, right?
-- Didn't we just bear witness to a senior US Army NCO who was courts-martialed for beating the hell out of an ANG officer who had a slave boy chained up for sexual gratification purposes on a US military base in Afghanistan? That story isn't even a month old! It also wasn't a one-time thing, as we learned the US military had long standing orders from the State department to ignore the open display of selling boys by the locals and even bringing them on base. They had to pretend they were family relations or work apprentices.
-- Do I even need to remind you about the Afghan 'dancing boys' or how we found countless pictures of foreign jihadis in Kabul's photographic studios wearing women's makeup and snuggling romantically with their jihadi boyfriends during that Taliban's long rule there? There's whole websites and indie films devoted to this evidence.
-- What about the several fatwas decreed by senior mullahs in the Arab nations declaring that homosexual intercourse between jihadis was determined not to be haram (prohibited) as long as it was properly conducted during the waging of jihad? Did you forget that? Literal decree of acceptance of homosexual relations amongst the keepers of the Muslim faith.
-- Did you know that a great many Western-raised jihadi terrorists who have gone to Iraq and Syria to become fighters and suicide bombers for ISIS were said by the people who knew them from their homes in Sweden and the U.K. (etc.) were thought to be closeted latent homosexuals who had absolutely zero game with the womenfolk? Those stories are not few, sir. Go do some reading about how gay Muslim boyfriends decided to travel together abroad to become ISIS fighters. Several of the 9/11 hijackers were believed to be the same way with women and were hugely uncomfortable around the opposite sex in situations where there was any amount of sexuality on display. Go read about Mohammed Atta sometime.
-- Not well reported in Western media, but several of those gays executed by being thrown from the roof of an eight story building in Iraq were probably ISIS fighters. It's not like ISIS swooped up some likely homosexuals at a Baghdad gay nightclub or anything. At least some of the victims were from their own ranks, I'd read.
-- Golly, not that anyone can tell who is gay or not just by looking at them, but you might want to go take one look at the photographs of the Paris attacker Salah Abdeslam and tell me if you don't think he looks more like he belongs as a victim of the Orlando gay nightclub massacre than he does being a would-be suicide bomber.
-- Here in the USA, not only do we have the new murderous fiend in the Orlando massacre who is said to have been a self-loathing homosexual but please remembers years ago we saw the DC snipers of John Muhammad and Lee Malvo who were absolutely gay man/boy lovers bent on violent jihad. That's not even in question.
It is my suspicion that a great many of the jihadis originating from the socially and sexually repressed Arab cultures left home to go wage war for Al-Queda/ISIS/ISIL, etc. because they were a huge embarrassment to their families back home because of their suspected homosexuality despite whether its true or not that they're really gay. If a young man cannot bear to live a miserable life as a closeted homosexual in the worst part of the world to be identified as gay, then they'll sacrifice themselves as a suicide bomber or die in battle against the hated Western crusaders so as to bring honor back unto the family name. This would be quite a lot like how families in the Middle Ages in Western Europe sent their finocchio sons to the Catholic priesthood and their butch daughters off to be with the rest of the lesbian nuns in a distant convent. Perfect cover, you see, and forevermore their family's shame will not only be hidden in a far off place but will be regarded in their community back home as something to be respected and esteemed. Is this too hard for you to believe? Look at the evidence!
I'll say this much: Being an Arab homosexual certainly doesn't automatically make someone a radical Muslim terrorist, but I think there's pretty strong evidence that being a radical Muslim terrorist may have something to do with being medication for their own self-loathing homosexuality in a great many cases. Sure seems strange how they can just erupt into 'Sudden Jihadi Syndrome' after apparently living a secular life and only after they've committed some foul act here or abroad do we learn that the quiet loner was a hugely emotional train wreck struggling with significant personal conflict by everyone who had contact with them.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go elsewhere to write a screed explaining to pudding heads that if some Muslim loner commits an act of terror and self-identifies an affiliation with a known international terrorist group that we should probably believe they were being genuine about it -- especially if the terror group themselves welcomes their act as one of their own deeds. It seems that some people still believe that Al-Quaeda/ISIS is a brick and mortar location with an official membership club and not a shadowy electronic recruiting presence based upon the world wide web. You know, that their recruits must satisfy some conditions of employment such as traveling to Syria and having themselves photographed wearing a chest rig and holding an AKM in front of a mud-caked Toyota truck with their index finger pointing skyward and demonstrate physical fitness by traversing the monkey bars and stepping fleetly through truck tires at a desert training camp.
I swear, it's like some people haven't paid a lick of attention to the evolutionary changes of the radical Islamist movement over the last decade and a half.
He’s muslim.
Muslims have open and extreme hostility to homosexuality, even though the practice of it is ingrained in their culture.
He has made the pilgrimage to Mecca.
He was overjoyed at the events of 9/11.
He killed people while invoking Allah.
The West is, and has been at war with Islam, even though they have declared war on us and we are burying our heads in the sand just as thoroughly suicidal as we can.
I am not going to pile on you, because I believe institutional memory is important to an entity like Free Republic (which is something you provide) but I don’t understand the vanity thread you started.
There are enough people on FR that can think for themselves, and I can guarantee you that there are huge numbers of them here that aren’t being “led by the nose” by the Media, quite the contrary. I think it would be wise to keep in mind that a cigar is sometimes just a cigar.
“I think it would be wise to keep in mind that a cigar is sometimes just a cigar.”
Methinks Bill Clinton might disagree with you.
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LOL, WHY do you have to drag Bill Clinton into this...
I knew homosexuals were screaming, because they can’t give blood, if they’re sexually active, but didn’t know they were going to change the law. I think 16% of homosexuals have HIV, but they believe a vaccine will appear tomorrow. HIV causes them to age 14 years, which, I assume, means they die 14 years early. Plus, PrEP causes them to be more likely to have a heart attack. PrEP doesn’t prevent HIV-associated neurocognitve disorder, which leads to dementia. They expect gene-editing to lead to a cure, but they’ve discovered it makes HIV worse. I guess they want everyone to suffer, plus, if everyone suffers from dementia, they’ll legalize child sex sooner.
Thanks for at least looking up when I joined.
Based on the responses here, I’m surprised at the number of people that must be part of the major media.
Since as a homosexual he was condemned to Hell by the Qur’an, but was guaranteed Paradise by killing Infidels, both factor into his decision. He assured himself his 72 virgins (His will be little boys, though) and avoids punishment.
Wait ‘til he finds out the truth: There is no Allah but Satan, and Muhammad was his murdering pedophile.
Not quite. Islam is at war with US, but we have not yet begun to fight back.
http://downstreampolitics.com/2016/06/15/orlando-killers-father-held-meetings-white-house/
There is almost always a story that isn't told the first few days. The FBI knows him but does nothing? Dad is friends with Obama? Does Trump know about this?
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