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Let's not jump to conclusions about Orlando
vanity | 06-14-2016 | chuckles

Posted on 06/14/2016 2:05:40 PM PDT by chuckles

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1 posted on 06/14/2016 2:05:41 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

The shooter calling upon Allah was not a tip off?


2 posted on 06/14/2016 2:07:54 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Oil the gun, eat the cannolis, take it to the mattress.)
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To: Don Corleone

MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN VEGETATING ON X-FILES SINCE WE DISCOVERED A FREE 30 DAY TRIAL OF NETFLIX ON OUR COMCAST MODEM .... AND THE NEWS OF MUSLIMS AND THE DEPTH OF THE EMBEDS REALLY MAKE SENSE NOW


3 posted on 06/14/2016 2:08:37 PM PDT by knarf
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To: chuckles

While many claim that Muslims are not well adjusted and prone to violence, the same has been suggested of gays. Just consider that type of violence exhibited in “Bug Parties” http://gaylife.about.com/od/GlossaryB/g/Bug-Party.htm


4 posted on 06/14/2016 2:11:21 PM PDT by cassiusking
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To: chuckles

Islam is a homoerotic ideology. It creates closet homosexual men as a means of bonding the men and creating a wall between them and women. It creates a sexual tension inside them by instilling a women are for procreation and men (or boys) are for recreation mindset.

So, this guy acted out on his gay impulses. But, his murderous attack is still 100% islam.


5 posted on 06/14/2016 2:14:18 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: chuckles

If this turns out that Orlando was caused by mental illness over homosexual guilt, we will go to war and kill Muslims over a lie

Poor, misunderstood muslims. They were blamed, yet innocent!

6 posted on 06/14/2016 2:15:14 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Apparently, most people are fine with what Obama is doing, while he ignores our problems.)
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He called 911 and told them he was ISIS Jihadist. He was went to mosque that preached the death of non-Muslims including gays, was what faithful obedient Muslims do. More and more details are coming out about his Islamic beliefs being jidhadist, his trips, his family, his possible training ....etc.

Mental illness...homosexual may be contributing factors in the effects cbut Islam is the cause.


7 posted on 06/14/2016 2:15:34 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: chuckles

The shooter shouting Allahu Akbar, laughing as he shot, and going around and shooting the wounded seems to me a real solid indicator that he was a radical Islamist and not a Southern Baptist. Additionally, today news reports indicate that his current wife may be charged for knowing about the plan and taking him to the sodomite club several times.


8 posted on 06/14/2016 2:16:49 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The Mofia is a private crime family; whereas, the DOJ is the gov't's political crime family.)
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To: chuckles

You may miss the fact that male-male relations are widespread among muslims. Child molestation is widespread. This is particularly so among Afghans. They don’t consider it homosexuality, but of course it is.

So the relationship between jihad and mistreatment of women and the murder of homosexuals is even more interconnected than you indicate. And this most assuredly includes Taliban and ISIS. These people are seriously messed up. And they attract other messed up people. Jihad is a way that messed up people reach for redemption; their religion offers them no way out that doesn’t end in death and murder.


9 posted on 06/14/2016 2:17:15 PM PDT by marron
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No, it just means he's Muslim. They all call on Allah, just as Christians call upon Jesus.

The point of the post was just to look into other motives for his actions. Why call 911 while you are shooting to pledge allegiance to ISIS? Maybe he just got jilted by his lover and decided to go out in a blaze of glory. Just sayin.

10 posted on 06/14/2016 2:17:41 PM PDT by chuckles
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Islamic? Or insane?

Maybe both. A few months ago, Michael Savage spent most one show talking about the inbreeding that goes on in many Islamic groups. There's some sort of obsession to keep their family bloodlines pure and the result is the kind of genetic decay and mental deficiency that has been seen in European royalty.

11 posted on 06/14/2016 2:19:31 PM PDT by snarkpup (Socialism causes the worst people to become in charge - if they aren't already.)
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Pledges his support to ISIS

That’s the ONLY meme we should make sure is remembered


12 posted on 06/14/2016 2:20:08 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: chuckles
I am sorry but that is the second biggest pile of tripe I have read today.
We should not go to war with the mohammedans over Orlando, we should go because they are already at war with US.
As to the idea that it was because he was a “self loathing” sodomite is also malarkey.

A brief cheat sheet to understanding the mohammedan mindset.

Any observant mohammedan is commanded to kill anyone who does not follow the mad mo or who does not do so with enough fervor.

Any sex that includes a male mohammedan being dominate and enjoying himself is right. This includes sex with infants, children, women, castrated men, animals and rocks. Any sex where anyone else gets pleasure is wrong.

Anything that a male mohammedan wants it is his right to take.

Anything a mohammedan wants you to do you had better do or he will kill you.

Those that are “peaceful” will, unless they are not observant, aid and abet and defend the above even if they do not feel secure enough to take part.

13 posted on 06/14/2016 2:20:28 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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“If this turns out that Orlando was caused by mental illness over homosexual guilt, we will go to war and kill Muslims over a lie”

So what’s the “lie”? Plenty of evidence already this guy was motivated by radical Islam. Plus, his wife is singing like a bird. Maybe the guy had bisexual fantasies, but that didn’t cause him to cheer 9/11 or pal with the American suicide bomber at his mosque.

And shooting homosexuals over and over while stone faced, cool and calm, or laughing, while shouting Allahu Akbar doesn’t leave any room for doubt


14 posted on 06/14/2016 2:20:45 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (#BoycottTarget Women & children hurt the most. #BoycottPGA.)
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To: chuckles

He’s a Jihadi. QED.


15 posted on 06/14/2016 2:21:40 PM PDT by major-pelham
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To: chuckles

WTF is this drivel? Stop making excuses for the fact that this massacre of Americans is, first and foremost, a crime by your garden variety islamic-fascists.

Muslims are dangerous - whether they are hetero, homosexual, or “transgendered.”


16 posted on 06/14/2016 2:23:59 PM PDT by indcons (Space available for advertising. Contact for rates.)
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In Western civilization justice is delivered by structures created by the people and administed by elected officials. The individual, called a vigilante, is forbidden by those structures from enforcing any “justice.” Vigilantes are punished as criminals.

However, Islam is fundamentally different than Western civilization. For example, nowhere in Arabic and related languages is there a word for citizen. They don’t see themselves as members of nations. They don’t ascribe to any of the social structures Westerners use, like police, prosecutors and judges. All of those non-religious structures are, instead, vested in mostly self-appointed individuals called imams. These are men who have developed a following, and depending on that following have varying levels of power. They can act as police, judge, jury and executioner. In fact, the Koran teaches that ANY Muslim who considers himself devout, can act as police, judge, jury and executioner.

If this was a “citizen” and he acted thus, he would be a vigilante. But a Muslim who acts thus is a pious Muslim. So, they are empowered, each of them, to kill those who are not Muslims.

John Wayne Gacy was acting on purely selfish sexual motives and he did not pretend that he was anything but a criminal. But a Muslim who kills is fully justified, if only in his own mind, by his beliefs. There is a world of difference. Gacy was just one man. But Islam is carried like the plague by one point five billion people.


17 posted on 06/14/2016 2:24:33 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (`)
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To: chuckles; All

My red editors pen was itching reading all that - good golly.

The whole thing is really quite simple and can be summed up in much fewer woods.

Here’s the whole ball of wax.

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Millions of GUNS in this group - yet none of them - not ONE of these guns has ever committed a terrorist attack. Not ONE.

Explain that, if GUNS are the problem. There’s two groups of ‘IT”S THE GUNS’
1: the gov’t, and their willing puppets - who would like to, like all dictators, get protection out of the hands of the citizens - to make it easier to take over - .... and the stupid.

Which are you?

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18 posted on 06/14/2016 2:25:08 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (A Christian is as a Christian does - "By their works...")
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To: chuckles; Admin Moderator

Why does your OPINION about something even need its own thread?

Why couldn’t you simple add this to a post—or posts—on many of the dozens and dozens of threads on the MUSLIM TERRORIST attack on US soil we already have????

I really don’t care if he was a homo or all his victims were homos. He was of the DEATH CULT ISLAM, called it for ISIS and screamed Allah Ackbar as he knowingly killed AMERICANS (many of whom happened to be gay).

That my FRiend is terrorism of the Islamic kind.

Same Shi’ite, different day.


19 posted on 06/14/2016 2:25:27 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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I'd be fine ignoring this case. I'll promise never to bring it up again if Obama says something like:

We don't know the motivations of the Orlando killer. But we do know that there are a lot of radical Muslim *$%!s who would like to see it repeated every day in every city in the US. So starting today I'm doing a 180 and ordering the military to do everything in their power to wipe ISIS and similar groups off the face of the earth. It's not in retaliation for Orlando since we don't know the motivations. But Orlando opened my eyes to what ISIS could do and I realize ISIS must be destroyed.


20 posted on 06/14/2016 2:25:47 PM PDT by LostPassword
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