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Let's not jump to conclusions about Orlando
vanity | 06-14-2016 | chuckles

Posted on 06/14/2016 2:05:40 PM PDT by chuckles

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To: chuckles
“It's easier to tie mass murder with Islam than to being a homosexual”

It is actually quite easy to link them:

1. Shooter was a Muzzie
2. Shooter was gay
3. Shooter knew Allah us not happy with his sexual choices
4. Shooter knew that if he was killed committing jihad during Ramadan he would get 72 virgins

21 posted on 06/14/2016 2:26:43 PM PDT by Gamecock ( Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul...Matthew 10:28)
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To: chuckles

“If this turns out that Orlando was caused by mental illness over homosexual guilt, we will go to war and kill Muslims over a lie.”

Your forgetting one thing, that all these terror acts have Islam as the common denominator. Simply put...you’re over thinking it!


22 posted on 06/14/2016 2:28:47 PM PDT by MaxistheBest
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To: cassiusking

How does one stumble across these terms....


23 posted on 06/14/2016 2:30:21 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Bryanw92

Yes, yes, yes. I’ve been saying it all day today but freepers keep buying into this separation between gays and muslims. Maybe there is a separation from gays in muslimland - but not from homosexuality.

And while living in a oceanfront condo for ten years, surrounded by gay men and women, I will say while they could be genuinely annoying and pc (especially the women!) I never feared coming upon them in a dark alley or a bar.


24 posted on 06/14/2016 2:30:23 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: chuckles
Now we have a Muslim murderer that it looks more like he may have been a homosexual.

If you do 'due diligence" on researching - you might put together that he wasn't gay - it was men kissing in pubic in front of his kids that set him off.. It's reported that he HAD indeed been to the club previously - but they surmise he was casing it - that way, he wouldn't be going in blind....but know just where and how he was going to pull it off...

25 posted on 06/14/2016 2:32:04 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (A Christian is as a Christian does - "By their works...")
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To: Bryanw92
Islam is a homoerotic ideology. It creates closet homosexual men as a means of bonding the men and creating a wall between them and women. It creates a sexual tension inside them by instilling a women are for procreation and men (or boys) are for recreation mindset. So, this guy acted out on his gay impulses. But, his murderous attack is still 100% islam.

I think that is a very savvy conflation of the issues in this case. There is a profound, yet rarely acknowledged, dependency of homosexuality at an early age, with the Islamic culture. Perhaps the pederasty is even more destructive than the homosexuality. In the west, such sexual violations of children have repeatedly shown to create adult rage and even psychosis. Combined with Muslim teachings of murdering others and enslaving women, as well as the brutality of Sharia law, it's like Islam was created to literally embody all the possible evil of humanity in one organization. Muslims are human beings who have been soul-broken by Islam - which in turn was created and designed to break souls, like a machine.

26 posted on 06/14/2016 2:32:17 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: marron
I agree with all that has been said about Muslims. I understand what they believe because Satan wrote it. But do you not agree that great lies have been espoused to the masses in the past and are now "common knowledge"? Do you really believe that the answer to David Koresh was to kill women and children? I've had people say, "Well, he was abusing children". Burning everyone to death has never been the solution for child abuse. They let people live in Ruby Ridge and that wasn't going to happen again. We can't let people believe that Jeffery Dahmer was a homosexual. Lets just leave it at serial killer. After this thing is fully investigated, we may find out he proposed to his boyfriend and was angry enough to get his gun. Now all you guys hunker down and get ready for the "gun control" argument again, but this guy was licensed and had no priors. I'm just saying terrorism and gun control are 2 memes that media wants to talk about, but a murdering homo freak may not fit their agenda right now.

It seems from the first few responses here that people think I'm pro Muslim or something. Not true.

27 posted on 06/14/2016 2:33:22 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Great post. For anyone needing a break from news without taking their mind “off point” YouTube has a decent copy of El Cid with Charleton Heston.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LtuvHew1zi4

I know it’s just an entertainment, but I definitely had a moment when the Mujahidin from the Barbary Coast tells the “moderate muslim” Spanish Moors to rise in jihad against their co-existing Christian neighbors, so they can establish a beachhead against all Europe. Great monologue echoing all the talking points in the news today. If ever Western Civilization was so blind, it’s to our responsibility being in a 1400 year old war without acknowledging it, let alone winning it. No substitute for victory.


28 posted on 06/14/2016 2:34:02 PM PDT by Ketill Frostbeard ("Go not a step from your door unarmed, travel armed for war, you may at any time need a spear." ODIN)
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To: chuckles
This attack is what the Floyd Corkins attack was meant to be.
29 posted on 06/14/2016 2:36:58 PM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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To: chuckles

“murdering homo freak”

How about a murdering homo freak who worked for Homeland Security for a decade before starting his rampage?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3440029/posts

There is more than one thing the press prefers to obfuscate.


30 posted on 06/14/2016 2:37:02 PM PDT by marron
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To: chuckles

What ever drove the idiot to kill all of those people is still overridden by the fact he had Muslim ties.


31 posted on 06/14/2016 2:37:15 PM PDT by jetson
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To: chuckles

Are you a troll? We are already at war with Islam. Where have you been? We’re you at that confab with Romney?


32 posted on 06/14/2016 2:37:32 PM PDT by hotsteppa
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To: cassiusking

I’m afraid to look. How about a synopsis?


33 posted on 06/14/2016 2:38:11 PM PDT by tuffydoodle ("Never underestimate the total depravity of the average human being.")
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To: chuckles

“If this turns out that Orlando was caused by mental illness over homosexual guilt, we will go to war and kill Muslims over a lie.”

You must not have noticed — we are already at war. The collateral evil that lurks within the minds of their foot soldiers as they commit acts of terror is beside the point.


34 posted on 06/14/2016 2:40:00 PM PDT by odawg
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To: Talisker

>>it’s like Islam was created to literally embody all the possible evil of humanity in one organization. Muslims are human beings who have been soul-broken by Islam - which in turn was created and designed to break souls, like a machine.

Exactly. Every piece of islam is something that can be used to chip away whatever humanity a person has. In the end, you are left with these husks of a person that are dead inside, bowing to a false god according to a schedule and reciting the same words again and again.

They are a part of the tribulation and we do not get whisked away in a pre-Trib rapture. We have to endure this and resist them and the mark they place on your soul if you submit to alluh.


35 posted on 06/14/2016 2:41:12 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: chuckles
If you can believe it, they are about to allow blood donations from homosexuals again.

They can give blood if they've been celibate for a year. Now it seems like there's more agitation about that restriction than there was against the earlier blanket restriction.

Now we have a Muslim murderer that it looks more like he may have been a homosexual.

Clearly, Mateen had problems with gays, but so far we just have one guy's word for it that the killer was a regular at the club.

36 posted on 06/14/2016 2:42:49 PM PDT by x
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To: Bryanw92

In fact, Islamic scholars have difficulty explaining the Qu’ran’s prohibition against homosexuality when it’s obvious that there are a lot of closeted gays and open pedophiles in Islamic cultures. This is especially true of the tribal Pashtuns of Afghanistan and northern Pakistan.


37 posted on 06/14/2016 2:43:57 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: x

Everybody keeps saying he clearly had a problem with gays but I’m not so sure about that. I think if he would have been at ANY CLUB as a regular patron, he would have shot it up, instead. He just found himself an easy, gun free target.


38 posted on 06/14/2016 2:45:49 PM PDT by tuffydoodle ("Never underestimate the total depravity of the average human being.")
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To: RayChuang88
In fact, Islamic scholars have difficulty explaining the Qu’ran’s prohibition against homosexuality when it’s obvious that there are a lot of closeted gays and open pedophiles in Islamic cultures. This is especially true of the tribal Pashtuns of Afghanistan and northern Pakistan.

Those areas thousands of miles away from Arabia didn't become Muslim until after Muhammad died, so why would customs there have much to do with the Koran?

39 posted on 06/14/2016 2:49:50 PM PDT by x
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>>In fact, Islamic scholars have difficulty explaining the Qu’ran’s prohibition against homosexuality when it’s obvious that there are a lot of closeted gays and open pedophiles in Islamic cultures. This is especially true of the tribal Pashtuns of Afghanistan and northern Pakistan.

They explain it in code.

1) They believe that alluh does not expect them to not sin, stop sinning, or to even try to stop sinning. Alluh is a being that demands works and if your good works balance out the bad, then he accepts you. So, closet homosexuality, bestiality, murder, whatever is OK as long as your works for alluh are greater.

2) The murder of openly gay people is demanded because they flaunt it as if it is the reason why alluh made them (i.e. gays say, “I was made this way and can’t help myself” and they talk about their “pride” in that a lot). They blaspheme alluh with their public depravity because it can lead others into the same depravity, which tips the balance away from their works. They kill them to stop them from committing more bad works. Its supposed to be a mercy killing.


40 posted on 06/14/2016 2:50:05 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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