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Donald Trump’s embarrassing third-place finish in NY
American Thinker ^ | 04/21/2016 | C. Edmund Wright

Posted on 04/21/2016 8:57:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Donald Trump might have rolled to 60 percent of the Republican vote in New York Tuesday night, but he came in a distant third in the big scheme of things nonetheless. Keep in mind, this is the candidate and the campaign that constantly pout about one-man one-vote and popular vote totals.

They threaten to both call the lawyers about this concept and to riot in Cleveland over this. Thus, by Trump's own standards, Trump got thrashed in New York. Both Hillary and Bernie Sanders destroyed Trump in raw vote totals.

I'm not saying Trump didn't win the N.Y. Republican primary big. He did. I'm not even arguing that Trump is cheating to get 90% of the delegates with only 60% of the vote – although I could do just that, again using Trump's standards and Trump's own words and Team Trump's talking points. It would be easy. All I'm pointing out is that even in a yuuuuuuuge win, the numbers put the lie to the Donald Trump campaign. This was his best night so far, and yet the seeds of disaster are obvious for any who would but pay attention.

That popular vote total should bring the pom-pom clan back to Earth.

Remember that Trump is supposedly the man who will by his mere presence put blue states, even New York, into play. The message board trolls drone endlessly about this. As do some websites and talk show hosts – not to mention the Trump surrogates. Again, by their own self-imposed standard, Trump really got humiliated Tuesday night.

Consider: Hillary Clinton tallied over a million votes. Over three quarters of a million New York voters "felt the Bern." Trump was just over half a million. You say, "Okay okay, but it's New York."

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To: BlackbirdSST

Why are Cruz’ records sealed? (honest question)

That’s the only question that’s ever needed an answer. Well, a honest answer.
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There are many articles stating some of his records are sealed. Why? Why would he seal them?
If he should be the nominee, the rats will get hold of this and then what?

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141 posted on 04/21/2016 2:47:06 PM PDT by patriot08 (5th generation Texan ...(girl type) Run the slimy Canadian lawyer= HELLO HILLARY!)
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To: jennychase

RE: And Cruz can win. Seriously.

An argument that Trump supporters often cling to is that Trump is doing better than other Republicans in the primaries, and therefore it follows that he will do better than they would in general elections.

But this doesn’t follow at all. What people fail to consider is that relatively few Americans vote in primaries, and they aren’t representative of the general voting population. The difference of scale between these two types of elections renders the primary results insignificant in divining general election results, which will depend on completely different factors.

Trump has won about 8.8 million votes right now (37.9 percent) in the GOP primaries, and he will finish this year’s primary season with something like 12 or 13 million votes. Now consider: This number represents about one-fifth of what a candidate in this year’s general election will need just to lose respectably, by a Romney-like margin. After all, about 130 million people will likely cast votes for president.

Now, there’s no reason in principle why a candidate who wins “only” 12 or 13 million votes in the primaries (or even just five or six or seven million) could not win a general election. That depends entirely on the candidate and his campaign. But the point here is that even a terrific primary performance offers zero evidence that a candidate actually can win a general election. As all of the head-to-head polling illustrates, it isn’t even a sign that that said candidate would perform better in a general election than other candidates who got fewer votes in the primaries.

This is especially true in Trump’s case. His hard-core supporters fail to comprehend just how deeply unpopular he is with everybody else outside their relatively small group. According to the last eight polls taken on the question, Trump has an unfavorable rating of between 60 and 70 percent among the general population that will vote in the 2016 election.

One can quibble with a poll here or there, but to deny that Trump would be the most unpopular person ever nominated for president requires the belief that all current polling is wrong — and not just a bit wrong (as some polls were in 2012 in 2014) but completely, uniformly and entirely wrong in a way it never has been in any modern presidential election. Yet in reality, the polls from April and even March of 2004, 2008, and 2012 were, on aggregate, reliable indicators of the eventual winner in those years.


142 posted on 04/21/2016 3:05:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: patriot08

You ask - What is sealed?

I tell you - Nothing is sealed.

So for someone to say Ted has sealed his records - they lie.

Ted has not sealed his birth records. You wanna see his birth certificate? It’s out there.

What else do you wanna know?


143 posted on 04/21/2016 3:11:59 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Sorry Donald. My candidates support pro-life.)
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To: Fresh Wind

Hmmm. Looks more like a sulk than a zot. Oh well.


144 posted on 04/21/2016 3:21:19 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Congratulations to Dr. Carson for his handy defeat of Raphael Edward Cruz in New York!)
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To: Parley Baer
Exactly. He's commented FreeRepublic before and he definitely thinks his sh*t don't stink.

Arrogant egotist.

145 posted on 04/21/2016 3:29:08 PM PDT by HotHunt
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To: GonzoII

No kidding

JRs zot thread had them all on the run

Now they have organized again and flooded the forum as usual

They think if they can control it here thread wise maybe Trump will not get the nomination

It’s a fantasy


146 posted on 04/21/2016 3:31:16 PM PDT by wardaddy (gonna need a lot of rope and lamposts and gibbets after this primary season.....)
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To: Genoa

Exactly. Someone posted this same drivel Wednesday. A closed primary in a state with 5.7 million Dems and 2.7 million Reps.


147 posted on 04/21/2016 3:35:24 PM PDT by visualops (It's the majority of the American people and Trump against the enemies of the republic - Windflier)
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To: Responsibility2nd

So for someone to say Ted has sealed his records - they lie.
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ALL of the sites are lying- even the the well respected ones?


148 posted on 04/21/2016 3:50:01 PM PDT by patriot08 (5th generation Texan ...(girl type) Run the slimy Canadian lawyer= HELLO HILLARY!)
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To: Cicero

Rational reasoning does not irrational Trump hating make.


149 posted on 04/21/2016 4:09:44 PM PDT by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: SeekAndFind
C. Edmund Wrong - wrong as usual.

I'm glad that little pantywaist got banned from Free Republic for his mouth.

150 posted on 04/21/2016 8:24:07 PM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Trump loses NY narrowly, he wins Michigan. Cruz cant’ win any midwest general states.


151 posted on 04/21/2016 8:28:00 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal (Trump was born in the city, voters under Cruz feet, Cruz a man of Wall Street)
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To: SubMareener
The deep mystery we face on Free Republic is this: WHY do all these FR Cruzers support the things they do: massively increased immigration, open southern border, Cheap Labor Express, unlimited and government funded resettlement of Syrian and other muslims into the U.S. heartland, admission of trojan horse muslims, en masse, forming sleeper cells. Why would the support the absolute decapitation of U.S. EXPORTS by arguing tirelessly for trade agreements that transfer hundreds of billions of dollars per year to nations like China?

Everything else here on FR is sort of inconsequential until we learn why FR is being used, and why so many FR posters are being used, for the advancement of Globalism AT ALL COSTS.

152 posted on 04/21/2016 8:29:16 PM PDT by gg188 (Ted Cruz, R - Goldman Sachs)
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To: Servant of the Cross
There is nothing about Cruz in the article.

Because for CEW to lay out the embarrassing truth that Cruz got less than 15% in this same primary would have shown us all Cruz is a genuinely bad candidate.

Like a lot of Cruzers, he had blinders on about that.

153 posted on 04/21/2016 8:32:59 PM PDT by Lakeshark (One time Cruz supporter who now prefers Trump. Yes, there are good reasons.)
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To: BlueStateRightist; LNV; SeekAndFind
Bernie and Hillary totaled 1.8 million votes. Trump/Cruz/Kasich totaled less than 1 million votes. And you think the Conservative Party (150,000 people) in New York and independents will make up that difference?

6 million people voted in New York in 2012 and 2008.

Your post references half that number. You can't make inferences with that data - ESPECIALLY with the NY conditionals.

154 posted on 04/21/2016 8:34:05 PM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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To: gg188

right. Good post, FRiend


155 posted on 04/21/2016 8:53:48 PM PDT by patriot08 (5th generation Texan ...(girl type) Run the slimy Canadian lawyer= HELLO HILLARY!)
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To: patriot08
There are many articles stating some of his records are sealed. Why? Why would he seal them? If he should be the nominee, the rats will get hold of this and then what?

He would get roasTED by the Left Wing of the uni-Party. It would start as soon as the Victory Party celebrations started winding down. "Ted's dead baby!" He has joined the long list of has beens from this election, sealed/hidden past, or not! Good riddance!

156 posted on 04/22/2016 5:11:28 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump 1237/2016)
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To: Lakeshark
... have shown us all Cruz is a genuinely bad candidate.

So let's acknowledge this, which I think CEW would as well. It was just not a part of this article. And I also think that the "bad" is the candidate (the person), not his positions or policies. Cruz is not naturally smooth, genuine or personable. He is made for the courtroom rather than the public square, especially in this 21st century of social media and the idolization of celebrity.

But ... can we also acknowledge the point of the article? Donald Trump will not win NY against a Democrat. That is as obvious as the fact that 1.75 million > 0.5 million.

157 posted on 04/22/2016 5:45:16 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Agreed. I'm all in for most of his stated policies. Add a few Trump emphases with Rubio's natural telegenics and it would be even better. We'd win in a landslide of Biblical flood proportions.

I hope CEW finally does understand that issue, I remember long ago when I pointed out his "likability" problem, he didn't see it. That was at least a month, maybe two, before I switched to preferring Trump.

One other thing: I do think it's likely Trump will put NY enough into play that they (whoever is the dem nominee) will have to spend money there to defend it.

No other candidate would force that. I'm not saying he could win, that's not it, just that he would force them to spend beaucoups de buckos for the first time since Reagan.

I kind of like that.

158 posted on 04/22/2016 11:27:50 AM PDT by Lakeshark (One time Cruz supporter who now prefers Trump. Yes, there are good reasons.)
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