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Ted Cruz is No Anchor Baby, Donald Trump
Redstate ^ | January 30, 2016

Posted on 01/30/2016 11:10:12 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

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The first thought that comes to mind is that Trump keeps coming back to this attack against Cruz for a couple of reasons. The first is that he cannot make attacks on Cruz's record of standing up for conservative principles the centerpiece of his strategy because that leaves him open to greater scrutiny of his own liberal record...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anchorbaby; canadian; cruz; dividedloyalty; dualcitizenship; frontpage; god; godgunsguts; guns; guts; ineligible; redstate; teaparty; trump
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To: odawg
Rafael Cruz history is even more murky than Ted's backstory.

Rafael shows up to college and gets a Social Security card from them while he is on green card status? He works his way thru college while on a student visa...that is a no no. We didn't really let people in back in the day who didn't have money enough for college and had to work, that would violate his visa.

Then he goes to Canada on Cuban citizenship status or by our green card? See some of the conflicting issues. I'm expecting the press to actually do their job and study this eventually.

81 posted on 01/30/2016 12:09:48 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Theoria

You think it makes sense for a U.S. citizen traveling overseas who gives birth on vacation to have rights stripped from their children that they would’ve had if the child was born in the U.S.? That is absurd, anti-American, anti-freedom.


82 posted on 01/30/2016 12:10:51 PM PST by JediJones ("How stupid are the people of Iowa?" -Donald Trump, November 12, 2015)
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To: Bob434
one of the old rules stated a mother had to be a citizen for a certain number of years before the child’s 14’th birthday-

First, I've never seen that statute. Second, the only statute I've seen regarding mothers ability to pass on citizenship has been about age.

Even so, she had been a citizen for 12 years by the time her son reached the age of 14 as you specify....that's a lot of time.

Please cite your source.

83 posted on 01/30/2016 12:11:52 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: JediJones

Do you think a hooker who has a child from a US citizen that ‘their’ child can run for President or is a US citizen?


84 posted on 01/30/2016 12:12:15 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: JediJones

Natural born on foreign soil only if BOTH parents are citizens. And, it generally means on US protectorates, not a foreign country where you’re also an automatic citizen of that country with divided loyalties.

Avoiding divided loyalties was the whole point of the NBC claus.

Show me where in the Constitution it says otherwise.


85 posted on 01/30/2016 12:13:25 PM PST by moonhawk (What would he do differently if he WAS a muslim?)
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To: Bob434

Sorry, garbled facts here. That was if the mother was the only parent bestowing citizenship and if the baby was not born on American soil.


86 posted on 01/30/2016 12:13:27 PM PST by JayGalt
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To: GodGunsGuts; All

Here is why Trump is better than Cruz

1) Born in the USA and NOT Canada. No more foreigners for President.

2) Career politicians do not make good presidents.

3) Individuals with real-world experience, particularly in business management, make good presidents and NOT former College Professors.

4) Even better are candidates with good people & negotiating skills.

5) What candidates do is more important than what they say.

6) Sharp intelligence is a must. Many of our past Presidents, including the current went to Harvard or Yale and looking at the terrible condition of our country.

7) Attorneys do not make good presidents.


87 posted on 01/30/2016 12:14:04 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: OhioBuckeye

I think that is so, that Cruz will be hit with this repeatedly.
I think Trump gets hit with his NY values, Clinton donations, etc.
For 2 guys that were supposed to be anti-establishment, they sure campaign like the old “politics of personal destruction”.
Not picking on one, picking on both.
We will see how it all plays out.
I am, at this time, a Cruz 1, Trump 2, guy, for FWIW.


88 posted on 01/30/2016 12:14:57 PM PST by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free.)
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To: Bob434
You misunderstand me. I'm not speaking of American law.

When Rafael Cruz had Ted Cruz in Canada, what was his Canadian status? Was he a permanent resident alien? Was he a temporary worker? Was he naturalized?

This is important, because if Rafael Cruz did not naturalize when baby Ted was born, wouldn't Rafael's Cuban citizenship descend to Ted? If Rafael had naturalized, did that automatically renounce his Cuban citizenship, leaving Ted just a dual citizen and not a triple citizen?

-PJ

89 posted on 01/30/2016 12:15:15 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Bob434

That law that Ted Cruz was naturalized under only looks at the residency of the citizen parent. His fathers status is totally irrelevant for US citizenship. Relevant only for Ted’s Cuban citizenship at birth.


90 posted on 01/30/2016 12:15:41 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: JayGalt

So you are standing firm on the legal inferiority of women under the Constitution? Good luck with that.


91 posted on 01/30/2016 12:19:17 PM PST by sphinx
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To: GodGunsGuts
Would the Founders EVER, under any circumstances, consider the child of an alien father born in a foreign land as a "natural born US citizen"?

Or, to put it another way, if a person were born in British North America to an alien father in 1788, of what State would he be a citizen?

92 posted on 01/30/2016 12:19:32 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at all.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Congratulations to Red State for using the words "Ted Cruz" and "Anchor Baby" in the same headline.

With fiends like these...

93 posted on 01/30/2016 12:20:05 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: JediJones

The only right that is stripped is the right to become President or Vice President. That is not anti-American; its the law for everyone.

The requirement was written into the Constitution by the Founders as a measure to make it more difficult for a person with foreign loyalties to have the supreme authority over America.

If you are worried about having the chance for your kid to become president, have the birth in America, this is no new rule and most people learned it in civics class. The risk to America is more important than the strawman argument of depriving someone who delivered unexpectedly.


94 posted on 01/30/2016 12:20:18 PM PST by JayGalt
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To: Theoria

LOL, does the Constitution have a hooker clause? If the child eventually lives in the U.S. for 14 years then of course it can be President. The founders didn’t add in a line that said the parent can’t be a hooker.


95 posted on 01/30/2016 12:21:35 PM PST by JediJones ("How stupid are the people of Iowa?" -Donald Trump, November 12, 2015)
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To: Aria

You are right...

Cruz on Natural Born Citizenship:
http://www.newswithviews.com/JBWilliams/williams300.htm


96 posted on 01/30/2016 12:23:07 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel ("God only is my Rock and my Salvation; He is my Defence." (Psa 62:2))
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To: RitaOK

I think the statement that Cruz “did not know” he held Canadian citizenship is a lie, and is an easily-proven lie, at that.

I have opposed Cruz here for months, on the grounds that he cannot be elected. I’ve repeatedly praised his adherence to the constitution, his rhetorical skills, and his analytical mind.

But I think his responses to questions about his lifelong dual citizenship are a deliberate deception, and it makes me think less of him.


97 posted on 01/30/2016 12:23:39 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at all.)
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To: JayGalt

LOL, then why does a person only have to live in the U.S. for 14 years to be President? The requirements are not as strict as you would like to argue. Certainly the founders intent would never have been to rule out a baby born in another country to a citizen who then came here and lived the rest of his life here. That would be an absurd original intent. That’s why they used the phrase natural-born. In Britain, that phrase covered children born outside of the country to citizens.


98 posted on 01/30/2016 12:24:06 PM PST by JediJones ("How stupid are the people of Iowa?" -Donald Trump, November 12, 2015)
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To: JediJones
a U.S. citizen traveling overseas who gives birth on vacation to have rights stripped from their children that they would’ve had if the child was born in the U.S.?

First of all, Cruz was born to an alien father. If anybody cared about the actual PURPOSE of the NBC clause, that would be disqualifying. Second, Mrs. Cruz was not "on vacation" in Canada. Third, eligibility for the Presidency is no sort of right, it is a privilege bestowed on some but not all US citizens.

99 posted on 01/30/2016 12:27:27 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at all.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

If Trump meant “Canadian” Anchor Baby, then he was technically correct.


100 posted on 01/30/2016 12:27:51 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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