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Ted Cruz is No Anchor Baby, Donald Trump
Redstate ^ | January 30, 2016

Posted on 01/30/2016 11:10:12 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

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The first thought that comes to mind is that Trump keeps coming back to this attack against Cruz for a couple of reasons. The first is that he cannot make attacks on Cruz's record of standing up for conservative principles the centerpiece of his strategy because that leaves him open to greater scrutiny of his own liberal record...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anchorbaby; canadian; cruz; dividedloyalty; dualcitizenship; frontpage; god; godgunsguts; guns; guts; ineligible; redstate; teaparty; trump
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To: GodGunsGuts

LOL! Trump is having a great deal of fun at Cruz’ expense, and his sensitive supporters are going nuts on Twitter. My cousin works with Cruz and said Donald is actually very fond of Ted, but “business is business” a la The Godfather. He will do what he must to prevail.


61 posted on 01/30/2016 11:55:28 AM PST by montag813
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To: GodGunsGuts

Live Trump rallies here Canned Spam.

“LIVE THREAD: All Three Trump IOWA Speeches Today: Dubuque, Clinton & Davenport”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3390578/posts


62 posted on 01/30/2016 11:56:06 AM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: babygene

Cuban citizens aren’t sovereigns like here In the US- As a sovereign parent In the US this parent can have a child anywhere and citizenship is bestowed upon them as a result- recent court cases have been increasingly finding this to be the case


63 posted on 01/30/2016 11:56:15 AM PST by Bob434
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To: GodGunsGuts

There is no comparison. Trump’s mother was -

1. A US naturalized citizen PRIOR to Trump’s birth OR conception. Naturalized in 42 and Trump born in 45, iirc.

2. A bride romanced in this country when visiting from Scotland, and NOT one seeking asylum from a 3rd world dictatorship.

Bottom line: Trump was born INSIDE the USA to parents, BOTH of whom were US citizens at the time of his birth AND conception.


64 posted on 01/30/2016 11:56:36 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

Yes which makes Trump 100% eligible to be POTUS...


65 posted on 01/30/2016 11:56:48 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: JediJones

No its not obvious. Its not even obvious that children born in the country to non citizens are citizens. There are laws and statutes and its not just about obvious because obvious is often wrong.

Ted Cruz is undoubtedly a citizen because he has traveled on a US passport. However the provenience of his citizenship is not obvious because as someone not born on American soil to two citizen parents or to one citizen parent and a legal immigrant who is in the process of naturalization, he is not an American citizen at birth. He is an American citizen only after he/his parents provide the Consulate or the Dept of Immigration/Naturalization with proof that he meets the statutes governing the awarding of citizenship to those born outside of America. Those documents are not available for review, only his Canadian birth certificate has been released.


66 posted on 01/30/2016 12:00:35 PM PST by JayGalt
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To: DoughtyOne; nickcarraway
Please stop destroying yourself. Get a grip.

LoL. Nicky can say anything, everything, every which way and loose.

BTW Trump deplaning at the Dubuque, IA airport from Air Trump One. ;-)

67 posted on 01/30/2016 12:01:13 PM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: JediJones
'Obviously if your parent is an American, you are a citizen at birth.'

Absurd. Obviously, there is more to it. We left behind hundreds of 'citizens' in the form of children born to men stationed in Vietnam who had children with locals. Or children born from US tourists overseas have just as right to run for the Presidency as someone born in the USA.

68 posted on 01/30/2016 12:02:02 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: RC one

No, I’m saying at this point I think Ted Cruz is irrelevant.


69 posted on 01/30/2016 12:02:37 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Tagline pending.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

[[There is no published record of Rafael Cruz attaining Canadian citizenship prior to the birth of Ted Cruz.]]

The naturalization act doesn’t state he had to be citizen, just a resident- and as I mentioned before- recent court cases are finding children born to one citizen parent are automatically bestowed citizenship and considered NBC’s-

IF we’re going to impose old rules of naturalization , (which have constantly changed) then we are going to have to discount trump too because one of the old rules stated a mother had to be a citizen for a certain number of years before the child’s 14’th birthday- Trump’s mother only became a citizen 2 years before his birth- She fails the older naturalization requirements


70 posted on 01/30/2016 12:03:28 PM PST by Bob434
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To: libbylu

Ahhh the and you know it argument. It does not hold up. Your honor, he is natural born, and you know it!


72 posted on 01/30/2016 12:05:16 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: OhioBuckeye

“The light came on!!

NO RECORD!”

As in Presidents Taylor, Grant, Taft, and Eisenhower!!!!!


73 posted on 01/30/2016 12:05:21 PM PST by odawg
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To: GodGunsGuts

There is no legal precedent for a President born outside the US, and we have not had a President born outside the US. Period.

The intentions of the Founders have simply not been tested and adjudicated in a court of law.

As a school child in the 50s and 60s I was taught a President had to be born in the US, with the sole exception being born to US diplomats serving abroad. (Conceptually the embassy is US territory)

When the Senate passed a resolution proclaiming McCain eligible, I understood that to be an extension of the diplomatic status to also include military serving abroad.

Sadly “true conservatives” wasted a bunch of ridiculous ammo on Obama, and little credibility remains to actually deal with Cruz’ situation.

But be assured the democrats will deal with it if need be.


74 posted on 01/30/2016 12:05:33 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: GodGunsGuts

Where is Cruz’s CRBA?


75 posted on 01/30/2016 12:05:46 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: odawg

You have to go back that far?

Come into the 21st century.


76 posted on 01/30/2016 12:06:13 PM PST by OhioBuckeye ("Here sir, the people govern." - Alexander Hamilton)
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To: GodGunsGuts

77 posted on 01/30/2016 12:06:35 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: odawg

The Naturalization Act of 1790 was superseded by the Naturalization Act of 1795. So the Naturalization Act of 1790 ceased to be law once the 1795 act was signed into law.

Regardless, the text of the 1790 law states:

“And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States.”

There is an interpretation issue here. Does the plural “citizens” refer to both parents, or does the plural “citizens” refer to the many covered by the law? Given the text says “and the children of” [plural], not “and a child of” [singular], it is probably the many covered by the law.

It is not clear from the text. Mark Levin interprets the 1790 law would confer Natural Born Citizenship status on Cruz if it were still the law today.

What is clear is if a woman traveled overseas and had a child of a foreign man who never was a U.S. citizen or resident, citizenship would not transfer.


78 posted on 01/30/2016 12:08:02 PM PST by magellan
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To: OhioBuckeye

“You have to go back that far?

Come into the 21st century.”

The 21st century is only 16 years old. In historical terms, Eisenhower was yesterday.

I could have added Obama. Is that better?


79 posted on 01/30/2016 12:08:58 PM PST by odawg
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To: sphinx
The 1790 statute was repealed and revised 5 years later. The language is clear and since Cruz's father had just taken the oath for citizenship to Canada he certainly cannot be considered resident under the definition of the time:

And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States.

Residency was defined in that same act as someone under oath declaring that they wished to remain and live in the Untied States.

80 posted on 01/30/2016 12:09:38 PM PST by JayGalt
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