Posted on 10/27/2015 11:53:44 AM PDT by GonzoII
Washington insiders, DC media elites, and GOP Establishment donors sang out in joy on the news that a candidate — any candidate — had surpassed Donald Trump in a national poll of the 2016 Republican nominating contest.
A poll released Tuesday from CBS and the New York Times put Dr. Ben Carson in first place with 26 percent, four points ahead of the previously untouchable Trump. Though the margin of error is 7 percent, is it possible Trump’s aura of polling infallibility is busted — even though Trump has led in 35 of 27 polls?
Jubilee rang out all over the Punditdom. “Ben Carson’s Surge Has Trump on the Ropes,” read the NBC News Online update ‘The Lid.’ The new poll shows “an important shift in the Republican presidential race,” said CBS’ Charlie Rose on Tuesday morning. “Ben Carson knocks Donald Trump from top spot nationally,” blared a CNN Online headline, despite the fact that Trump has led the seven other national polls conducted in October and leads the RealClearPolitics average of national polling by 4.5 percent.
In reality, the new poll suggests key strengths for Trump. Support for the real estate mogul has congealed into more concrete backing than the comparative mass of mush behind Carson. Over half, 54 percent, of callers who selected Trump as their first choice said their minds were made up, compared with only 19 percent of Carson backers in the survey.
Carson has also earned much of his newfound support through a colossal program of strategic campaign spending. The Carson campaign spent more than $20 million in the third quarter of 2015, nearly five times as much as Trump spent.
The survey is also a powerful testament to Trump’s staying power and strength with less than 100 days to go before voting begins.
So while Carson is picking up interest, partially due to the $5 million his campaign spent on digital and social media advertising alone, Trump has solidified his base into the kind of dedicated backers who can be counted on to act for him — the kind of voters who can be counted on to caucus for him on the ground in Iowa.
Related: Trump’s Iowa Wakeup Call
To be sure, the tightening of the numbers should be a wakeup call to Trump to begin deploying traditional infrastructure and ads alongside his media-centric strategy. But the survey is also a powerful testament to Trump’s staying power and strength with less than 100 days to go before voting begins.
Carson’s success, particularly in Iowa, “is more because of the evangelical support for Carson,” Washington Post national political reporter Bob Costa said Tuesday on “The Laura Ingraham Show.”
The Carson creep on Trump’s dominant position nevertheless demonstrates the temperament of the voters is still with Trump and the outsider mantle Costa said. “It’s immigration that remains the backbone of [Trump’s] support with the grassroots.”
The temperament of the voters is certainly not with the Establishment candidates, widely viewed as weak on the issue of immigration, with both Florida Sen. Marco Rubio and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush lagging in the single digits according to the CBS-New York Times poll.
Bush, meanwhile, got more bad news in the poll. More than half of Republicans (56 percent) would be dissatisfied if he wins the nomination.
Trump has barely spent dime one (as a smart businessman he is letting the MSM be his PR campaign).
He has access to Madison Avenue types the professional politicos have wet dreams about. The ad execs will probably comp him due to his past millions of dollars and probable future income.
When Trump opens the $$$ spigot it will be like the keystone cops getting hit by a fire hydrant!
excuse me ? What’s to ‘soar’ about ?
Dr. Carson would make an excellent member of the Cabinet
but as POTUS ....sorry ....
“Corrupt MSM and DCs last ditch efforts to stop Trump?”
Exactly. As someone else said the CBS poll reeks with the smell of Rove.
>>Only a brain surgeon can save this country now.<<
It is too late to implant a brain into obozo.
“even though Trump has led in 35 of 27 polls?”
LOL. 35 of 27 polls, remedial math is in order here.
How about Bernie Sanders?
These people in Iowa only want to hear Scripture being quoted it seems. Screw the issues like open borders etc.
These people wanted not so Rick S too and I wish they would wake up to what the country is facing today.
I don't think he has a single add out yet, I think they will be primo stuff when they do come out.
WOW, been saying the same for years.
Every voter should take 5 questions at least on the issues before being allowed to vote.
For instance. Which candidate wants to allow illegal immigrants to stay here and receive welfare?
Which candidate wants more gun laws?
Which candidate wants abortion to be provided by the tax payer?
Which candidate wants to allow tax payers to pay for womens contraception?
They are the kind of questions which should be asked.
Instead Iowa voters want to hear scripture being quoted and the left would never want an informed voter , because they know they would lose.
me too. The desperation of them is laughable, and yet they won’t quit sadly, as they want business as usual and screw the voter who is more informed.
>>RE:It is too late to implant a brain into obozo.
How about Bernie Sanders?<<
He has one, it is just rotted out.
LOL Nice work, there. The new math surpasses the old.
If polls are truthful, which I doubt, Mr. T is still out there and in their face. GO TRUMP!
Was it not Limbaugh who was was invited to H.W. Bush's White House for a sleep over while the country was being literally over run by illegals from Mexico?
Wasn't Rush is the guy who seldom if ever even discussed this violent country killing invasion during the 80s, through 90s and all the way into the 2ks?
To those behind enemy lines, it was painfully obvious back then.
By the way, has Limbaugh ever said he supports Trump for President? I don't recall him ever saying that.
Am I being overly suspicious of Limbaugh?
>>I don’t think he has a single add out yet, I think they will be primo stuff when they do come out.<<
My point exactly. Politicians keep going to ad firms that do political ads. Trump will go to the people that make the classic Budweiser ads, the Subaru “dog from puppy to old dog” ads, the “forever young” Pampers ads, etc.
He won’t pay a shekel — they will put their most creative minds on it for free.
THEN, Trump pays for prime time ad spots, which for him, costs the same as coins in our sofas.
I think a bit overly suspicious. Rush started the conservative backlash in 1988 on a local show. He ain’t perfect by any means, but he never sold out to the GOPe.
The poll is exposed as totally bogus. They actually surveyed register Democrats with only 500 out of 1200 being registered republicans!! What kind of poll is that? They included NON REGISTER ADULTS!! As to the 500 republicans they actually admit to + or - 7% !! The correct polling would look only at republicans “intending to vote in primary or causcus”!!
This poll is laughable in it’s survey criteria. Worthless!!
We’re not stupid. We know there’s some manipulation going on. Carson is a red herring.
“The poll is exposed as totally bogus. They actually surveyed register Democrats with only 500 out of 1200 being registered republicans!! What kind of poll is that? They included NON REGISTER ADULTS!! As to the 500 republicans they actually admit to + or - 7% !! The correct polling would look only at republicans intending to vote in primary or causcus!!”
LOL.
Rove probably paid for this.
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