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Carson Soars, Trump Solidifies [] survey puts physician ahead, but tycoon's base is far more solid
Life Zette ^ | Jon Conradi

Posted on 10/27/2015 11:53:44 AM PDT by GonzoII

Washington insiders, DC media elites, and GOP Establishment donors sang out in joy on the news that a candidate — any candidate — had surpassed Donald Trump in a national poll of the 2016 Republican nominating contest.

A poll released Tuesday from CBS and the New York Times put Dr. Ben Carson in first place with 26 percent, four points ahead of the previously untouchable Trump. Though the margin of error is 7 percent, is it possible Trump’s aura of polling infallibility is busted — even though Trump has led in 35 of 27 polls?

Jubilee rang out all over the Punditdom. “Ben Carson’s Surge Has Trump on the Ropes,” read the NBC News Online update ‘The Lid.’ The new poll shows “an important shift in the Republican presidential race,” said CBS’ Charlie Rose on Tuesday morning. “Ben Carson knocks Donald Trump from top spot nationally,” blared a CNN Online headline, despite the fact that Trump has led the seven other national polls conducted in October and leads the RealClearPolitics average of national polling by 4.5 percent.

In reality, the new poll suggests key strengths for Trump. Support for the real estate mogul has congealed into more concrete backing than the comparative mass of mush behind Carson. Over half, 54 percent, of callers who selected Trump as their first choice said their minds were made up, compared with only 19 percent of Carson backers in the survey.

Carson has also earned much of his newfound support through a colossal program of strategic campaign spending. The Carson campaign spent more than $20 million in the third quarter of 2015, nearly five times as much as Trump spent.

The survey is also a powerful testament to Trump’s staying power and strength with less than 100 days to go before voting begins.

So while Carson is picking up interest, partially due to the $5 million his campaign spent on digital and social media advertising alone, Trump has solidified his base into the kind of dedicated backers who can be counted on to act for him — the kind of voters who can be counted on to caucus for him on the ground in Iowa.

Related: Trump’s Iowa Wakeup Call

To be sure, the tightening of the numbers should be a wakeup call to Trump to begin deploying traditional infrastructure and ads alongside his media-centric strategy. But the survey is also a powerful testament to Trump’s staying power and strength with less than 100 days to go before voting begins.

Carson’s success, particularly in Iowa, “is more because of the evangelical support for Carson,” Washington Post national political reporter Bob Costa said Tuesday on “The Laura Ingraham Show.”

The Carson creep on Trump’s dominant position nevertheless demonstrates the temperament of the voters is still with Trump and the outsider mantle Costa said. “It’s immigration that remains the backbone of [Trump’s] support with the grassroots.”

The temperament of the voters is certainly not with the Establishment candidates, widely viewed as weak on the issue of immigration, with both Florida Sen. Marco Rubio and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush lagging in the single digits according to the CBS-New York Times poll.

Bush, meanwhile, got more bad news in the poll. More than half of Republicans (56 percent) would be “dissatisfied” if he wins the nomination.



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KEYWORDS: 2016polls; carson; elections; poll; polls; trump
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Full headline: Carson Soars, Trump Solidifies New national survey puts physician ahead, but tycoon's base is far more solid
1 posted on 10/27/2015 11:53:44 AM PDT by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII

Watch for it!

Corrupt MSM and DC’s last ditch efforts to stop Trump?

Manipulate the s**t out of the polls attempting to influence the easily led, as the entrenched R insiders covertly fall in behind Clinton.

It’s already begun.


2 posted on 10/27/2015 11:56:27 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: GonzoII
"Over half, 54 percent, of callers who selected Trump as their first choice said their minds were made up, compared with only 19 percent of Carson backers in the survey."

Everybody relax; 19% of Carson backers have their minds made up?? DRIVE ON TRUMP!

3 posted on 10/27/2015 11:57:32 AM PDT by GonzoII ("If the new crime be, to believe in God, let us all be criminals" -Sheen)
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To: GonzoII

All of these type of Polls on Carson have to be taken a great big dose of salt.

Polling in recent years has gotten harder with the advent of more cell phone usage and those still with land line phones tend to be older.

Also I would like to know the polling protocols here and methodology.

My advice to Donald Trump would probably to be commission a few polls of his won and get a clearer picture of what is going on.


4 posted on 10/27/2015 11:58:28 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: dragnet2

Carson ain’t going anywhere. Rove is just pulling/financing a hail Mary.


5 posted on 10/27/2015 11:58:34 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: GonzoII
Though the margin of error is 7 percent, is it possible Trump’s aura of polling infallibility is busted — even though Trump has led in 35 of 27 polls?

Common Core math.

6 posted on 10/27/2015 11:59:14 AM PDT by rfp1234 (Hail Obambi, our Deer Leader)
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To: GonzoII

One American News has a poll out that shows Trump way ahead. I couldn’t find a date for the poll. Anybody know?


7 posted on 10/27/2015 12:01:21 PM PDT by odawg
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To: stephenjohnbanker

The internals of this poll are a joke as is those who did this poll.

The media, the Chamber of Commerce, and the establishment are so desperate to have their open borders.


8 posted on 10/27/2015 12:01:22 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: GonzoII

Only a brain surgeon can save this country now.


9 posted on 10/27/2015 12:02:31 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Donald Trump : 'It will be wonderful. It will be glorious., You will be amazed, Next question"')
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To: GonzoII

“Ms Gloria Allred, Karl Rove on line one for you....”


10 posted on 10/27/2015 12:02:36 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.)
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To: GonzoII
Are there actually people who believe the rural folks in Iowa and others are supporting a guy who sounds like he just fixed with heroin?


11 posted on 10/27/2015 12:02:47 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: manc

“The media, the Chamber of Commerce, and the establishment are so desperate to have their open borders.

It does my heart good to watch these traitors blow tens of millions of dollars, chasing an impossible dream : )


12 posted on 10/27/2015 12:03:06 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: GonzoII

It says Trump had led in 35 of 27 polls.

If so he is more special than anyone imagined.


13 posted on 10/27/2015 12:03:21 PM PDT by Williams (Dear God, please save us from the Democrats. And the Republicans.)
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To: dragnet2

I very firmly believe that so-called adults should be required to take an IQ test before being allowed to vote.


14 posted on 10/27/2015 12:04:14 PM PDT by Jean2 (ox)
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To: rfp1234

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3291895/The-grade-math-question-puzzled-5-5-5-15-NOT-correct-answer.html


15 posted on 10/27/2015 12:04:28 PM PDT by petercooper (And I was born in the back seat of a Greyhound bus... Rollin' down Highway 41.)
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To: GonzoII

Carson’s requisite crash is inevitable, and not like Trump’s was reported to be. Those one’s for real.


16 posted on 10/27/2015 12:06:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne

...this one’s...


17 posted on 10/27/2015 12:07:55 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: GonzoII

“Carson soars”.. I AIN’T BUYIN’ IT. The eneMedia is at it again.


18 posted on 10/27/2015 12:09:51 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: GonzoII
Carson is picking up interest, partially due to the $5 million his campaign spent on digital and social media advertising alone

Such as buying millions of fake Facebook "Likes".

19 posted on 10/27/2015 12:11:43 PM PDT by nightlight7
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To: GonzoII

excuse me ? What’s to ‘soar’ about ?

Dr. Carson would make an excellent member of the Cabinet
but as POTUS ....sorry ....


20 posted on 10/27/2015 12:11:58 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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