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DNA Deciphers Roots of Modern Europeans
New York Times ^ | June 10, 2015 | By Carl Zimmer

Posted on 06/10/2015 3:20:13 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

For centuries, archaeologists have reconstructed the early history of Europe by digging up ancient settlements and examining the items that their inhabitants left behind. More recently, researchers have been scrutinizing something even more revealing than pots, chariots and swords: DNA.

On Wednesday in the journal Nature, two teams of scientists — one based at the University of Copenhagen and one based at Harvard University — presented the largest studies to date of ancient European DNA, extracted from 170 skeletons found in countries from Spain to Russia. Both studies indicate that today’s Europeans descend from three groups who moved into Europe at different stages of history.

The first were hunter-gatherers who arrived some 45,000 years ago in Europe. Then came farmers who arrived from the Near East about 8,000 years ago.

Finally, a group of nomadic sheepherders from western Russia called the Yamnaya arrived about 4,500 years ago. The authors of the new studies also suggest that the Yamnaya language may have given rise to many of the languages spoken in Europe today. . .

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: afanasievo; anthropology; battleaxeculture; cordedwareculture; dna; europe; europeans; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; scandinavia; singlegraveculture; yamnaya
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1 posted on 06/10/2015 3:20:13 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
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To: zot

Ping.


2 posted on 06/10/2015 3:24:42 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

How much of this theory is based on actual observation and how much is assumptions and speculation?

Anthropology is heavy on speculation.


3 posted on 06/10/2015 3:28:47 PM PDT by detective
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To: Brad from Tennessee


4 posted on 06/10/2015 3:33:57 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
the Yamnaya language may have given rise to many of the languages spoken in Europe today. .

Also Ebonics?

5 posted on 06/10/2015 3:34:20 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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Large-Scale Study Examines Bronze Age Genomes
Wednesday, June 10, 2015
http://www.archaeology.org/news/3394-150610-bronze-age-migrations
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Analysis of the genomes of 101 individuals who lived in Europe and Central Asia during the Bronze Age — between 5,000 and 3,000 years ago — suggests that the economic and social changes that occurred during this period were due to massive migrations. “Cultural change is happening because people are moving around and not just through the spread of ideas,” Eske Willerslev of the Natural History Museum of Denmark said in video clip press release. It also shows that at the end of the Bronze Age, the ability to drink raw milk was still very rare, even though it is common among northern Europeans today. “Previously the common belief was that lactose tolerance developed in the Balkans or in the Middle East in connection with the introduction of farming during the Stone Age...We think that it may have been introduced into Europe with the Yamnaya herders from Caucasus but that the selection that has made most Europeans lactose tolerant has happened at a much later time,” added Martin Sikora of the museum/s Centre for GeoGenetics.


6 posted on 06/10/2015 3:36:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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7 posted on 06/10/2015 3:36:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

More information here; http://www.nature.com/news/dna-data-explosion-lights-up-the-bronze-age-1.17723


8 posted on 06/10/2015 3:36:56 PM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
The article talks about the Greeks of 4,500 years ago. 4,500 years ago the speakers of the language that developed into the language of Homer and Plato wasn't spoken in Greece--the first "Greek-speakers" are thought to have arrived later (somewhere around 4,000 years ago, give or take a century). Classical Greek did absorb a lot of "loan words" from the language spoken in Greece in the Early Bronze Age (third millennium B.C.).

Maybe they meant the people living in what is now Greece 4,500 years ago, whatever language they spoke.

9 posted on 06/10/2015 3:37:44 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Brad from Tennessee
The article talks about the Greeks of 4,500 years ago. 4,500 years ago the speakers of the language that developed into the language of Homer and Plato wasn't spoken in Greece--the first "Greek-speakers" are thought to have arrived later (somewhere around 4,000 years ago, give or take a century). Classical Greek did absorb a lot of "loan words" from the language spoken in Greece in the Early Bronze Age (third millennium B.C.).

Maybe they meant the people living in what is now Greece 4,500 years ago, whatever language they spoke.

10 posted on 06/10/2015 3:37:44 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping.


11 posted on 06/10/2015 3:53:04 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: detective
How much of this theory is based on actual observation and how much is assumptions and speculation?

Did you read the article? it's based on analysis of DNA in skeletons.

12 posted on 06/10/2015 4:02:59 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: JoeProBono

I had a boss just like that!!!


13 posted on 06/10/2015 4:06:51 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Of making many books there is no end, and much study is a weariness of the flesh.")
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To: Brad from Tennessee; SunkenCiv

Well, this was their area before Putin annexed Crimea.

14 posted on 06/10/2015 4:32:40 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Both studies indicate that today’s Europeans descend from three groups who moved into Europe at different stages of history.

Geniuses.

I have info from my ancestors that people moved from Europe to outside of Europe. Some went South and got lotsa pigment. Like, where is the guaranty which way was the movement?

15 posted on 06/10/2015 4:47:09 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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To: Interesting Times

Thanks for the ping. Very interesting. I wonder who brought horses to Europe.


16 posted on 06/10/2015 4:52:00 PM PDT by zot
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To: Brad from Tennessee

This guy or lady or guys and ladies seems to have had a theory to prove and went out and proved it... And they did not read history of the Germanic Invasions — nothing much to do with Germans directly - but the hoards of people in waves of invasions including, the Goths, the VisiGoths, the Burgundians, The Barbarians, The Allans, Angles and Saxons, Franks and numerous other tribes. then the Vikings who went into what is now Ireland and Scotland but the migrated down the Volga far into Russia. Oh and those pesky Romans and earlier Greeks who had Mediterranean blood from every peoples that touched that great sea... And what a non revelation that Ukraine would be included — ever heard of the Caucasus Mountains as in Caucasian. It is amazing what one can come up with when one leaves out 2500 years of history. I call this Bunk a project to prove a PHD thesis And it has been known for many years that the languages of Europe and subsequently English had elements from very early India - as in Aryan. Wow - what passes for discovery. I noted that this study did not mention comparison to modern Europeans - even those who could trace ancestry for hundreds and hundreds of years in one place. Early Europeans and residents of what is now the EU and the U.K. of even 1200 years ago most likely had DNA from the entire known world of Euro-Asia-Africa... not just some farmers from the steppes of Russia and a few others. Rated again Bunk.


17 posted on 06/10/2015 5:48:13 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: Brad from Tennessee
"It was an immensely successful way of life, allowing the Yamnaya to build huge funeral mounds for their dead, which they filled with jewelry, weapons and even entire chariots."

Humans could not move into the deep steppe until horses were domesticated...they just couldn't take enough supplies to survive there without them. The horses hauled those necessary loads.

Pants were invented about the same time as horses were domesticated.

First Pants Worn By Horse Riders 3,000 Years Ago

18 posted on 06/10/2015 5:49:14 PM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

There’s a lot of guessin goin on


19 posted on 06/10/2015 5:51:05 PM PDT by Rannug ("all enemies, foreign and : domestic")
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To: Brad from Tennessee
The first were hunter-gatherers who arrived some 45,000 years ago in Europe. Then came farmers who arrived from the Near East about 8,000 years ago.

Finally, a group of nomadic sheepherders from western Russia called the Yamnaya arrived about 4,500 years ago.

In other words, the Fomorians, followed by the Fir Bolg, then the Tuatha Dé Danann.

20 posted on 06/10/2015 7:18:10 PM PDT by Oratam
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