[Interesting Times]

Ping.

[detective]

How much of this theory is based on actual observation and how much is assumptions and speculation?

Anthropology is heavy on speculation.

[JoeProBono]

[Don Corleone]

the Yamnaya language may have given rise to many of the languages spoken in Europe today. .

Also Ebonics?

[DakotaGator]

More information here; http://www.nature.com/news/dna-data-explosion-lights-up-the-bronze-age-1.17723

[Verginius Rufus]

The article talks about the Greeks of 4,500 years ago. 4,500 years ago the speakers of the language that developed into the language of Homer and Plato wasn't spoken in Greece--the first "Greek-speakers" are thought to have arrived later (somewhere around 4,000 years ago, give or take a century). Classical Greek did absorb a lot of "loan words" from the language spoken in Greece in the Early Bronze Age (third millennium B.C.).

Maybe they meant the people living in what is now Greece 4,500 years ago, whatever language they spoke.

[Verginius Rufus]

The article talks about the Greeks of 4,500 years ago. 4,500 years ago the speakers of the language that developed into the language of Homer and Plato wasn't spoken in Greece--the first "Greek-speakers" are thought to have arrived later (somewhere around 4,000 years ago, give or take a century). Classical Greek did absorb a lot of "loan words" from the language spoken in Greece in the Early Bronze Age (third millennium B.C.).

Maybe they meant the people living in what is now Greece 4,500 years ago, whatever language they spoke.

[colorado tanker]

Well, this was their area before Putin annexed Crimea.

[Leo Carpathian]

Both studies indicate that today’s Europeans descend from three groups who moved into Europe at different stages of history.

Geniuses.

I have info from my ancestors that people moved from Europe to outside of Europe. Some went South and got lotsa pigment. Like, where is the guaranty which way was the movement?

[ICCtheWay]

This guy or lady or guys and ladies seems to have had a theory to prove and went out and proved it... And they did not read history of the Germanic Invasions — nothing much to do with Germans directly - but the hoards of people in waves of invasions including, the Goths, the VisiGoths, the Burgundians, The Barbarians, The Allans, Angles and Saxons, Franks and numerous other tribes. then the Vikings who went into what is now Ireland and Scotland but the migrated down the Volga far into Russia. Oh and those pesky Romans and earlier Greeks who had Mediterranean blood from every peoples that touched that great sea... And what a non revelation that Ukraine would be included — ever heard of the Caucasus Mountains as in Caucasian. It is amazing what one can come up with when one leaves out 2500 years of history. I call this Bunk a project to prove a PHD thesis And it has been known for many years that the languages of Europe and subsequently English had elements from very early India - as in Aryan. Wow - what passes for discovery. I noted that this study did not mention comparison to modern Europeans - even those who could trace ancestry for hundreds and hundreds of years in one place. Early Europeans and residents of what is now the EU and the U.K. of even 1200 years ago most likely had DNA from the entire known world of Euro-Asia-Africa... not just some farmers from the steppes of Russia and a few others. Rated again Bunk.

[blam]

"It was an immensely successful way of life, allowing the Yamnaya to build huge funeral mounds for their dead, which they filled with jewelry, weapons and even entire chariots."

Humans could not move into the deep steppe until horses were domesticated...they just couldn't take enough supplies to survive there without them. The horses hauled those necessary loads.

Pants were invented about the same time as horses were domesticated.

First Pants Worn By Horse Riders 3,000 Years Ago

[Oratam]

The first were hunter-gatherers who arrived some 45,000 years ago in Europe. Then came farmers who arrived from the Near East about 8,000 years ago.

Finally, a group of nomadic sheepherders from western Russia called the Yamnaya arrived about 4,500 years ago.

In other words, the Fomorians, followed by the Fir Bolg, then the Tuatha Dé Danann.

[minnesota_bound]

I thought we all came from Africa.....
Isn’t that south of there?

[Rudder]

"The first were hunter-gatherers who arrived some 45,000 years ago in Europe."

And they came from...where?