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Democrats' 'Blue Wall' Not Impregnable to Republicans -- If They're Smart
Townhall.com ^ | February 17. 2015 | Michael Barone

Posted on 02/17/2015 4:17:04 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 02/17/2015 4:17:04 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Or, the GOP could nominate a principled conservative:


2 posted on 02/17/2015 4:22:26 AM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
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To: Kaslin

I do not think that I will see another Republican president in my lifetime. There are just too many low information voters, too many brainwashed idiots to overcome.


3 posted on 02/17/2015 4:22:40 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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Pennsylvania is a lost cause. It used to be a reliable Republican state for 100 hundred years, from 1860 to 1960.

The then the feral started to move into and take over Philadelphia, along with their 110% voter turnout. It’s been all downhill for Pennsylvania since.


4 posted on 02/17/2015 4:32:04 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

Ancient history there. America wasn’t nearly as packed with gibsmedats like it is now. The dems have a lock on 260 EVs.


5 posted on 02/17/2015 4:35:02 AM PST by ScottinVA (Communism, liberalism and Islam: Kindred ideologies dedicated to America's destruction.)
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To: Kaslin

“Republicans nearly beat a popular Democratic senator in Virginia last year”

With ZERO help from the national Pubbies, I might add. The Pubbies will carry VA with a principled conservative. Don’t try to force another GOPe turd on us.


6 posted on 02/17/2015 4:35:31 AM PST by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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Exactly! You have to WANT to win and the GOPe doesn’t.


7 posted on 02/17/2015 4:50:09 AM PST by Lake Living
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To: NY.SS-Bar9; ScottinVA; Flavious_Maximus; KC_Conspirator

1984 was 31 years ago.
I occasionally tune into to Rush and Levin and they talk just like that, like the country hasn’t changed in 31 years.

The ones that believe them want to try to live in that fantasy world, like its still 1984. And that is where talk radio takes them, to the world we miss that no longer exists.

Ted Cruz isnt winning CA , NY, MA or Maryland. Its a fantasy.


8 posted on 02/17/2015 4:54:15 AM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: KC_Conspirator

“I do not think that I will see another Republican president in my lifetime. There are just too many low information voters, too many brainwashed idiots to overcome.”

Plus the party seems intent on nominating “nice guy” candidates who won’t aggressively attack the opposition or even respond to attacks on them. Punching bags don’t win elections.


9 posted on 02/17/2015 5:02:37 AM PST by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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"If They're Smart"

Ok, we've ruled that out. Plan B????

10 posted on 02/17/2015 5:05:12 AM PST by DJ Frisat (Proudly providing the NSA with provocative textual content since 1995!)
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To: sickoflibs

Your opinion of the strategy piece is so...so...progressive! Good on you.

I’ll bet you are kinda tired of that worn-out Constitution thing, too; seein’ as how it is over 200-years old and we can’t realistically go back to 1776.


11 posted on 02/17/2015 5:07:14 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Kaslin

If TedCruz and Scott Walker were the ticket, they would win... including CT and ME.


12 posted on 02/17/2015 5:10:20 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: Kaslin
Target wisely, and think of states you haven't carried in years.

Barone's piece is a history of past wins/losses and an assessment of what current so-called "people in the know" think about how the EVs stack up. A lot of it is pretty much rote based on how entrenched liberalism and entilements are in these states and cities.

To his credit, he isn't directly stating the only way to win is with Jeb, or Walker, etc. But the analysis pretty much is leading to it - that "GOP can win IF we nominate Jeb and target those states we haven't carried in years."

In truth, the only way you can target the masses in those states is to propose more spending, take away more money from workers to give to non workers, give away more freedoms, take away more freedoms, and let the illegals in like Moses bringing in the Jews from Egypt. In other words they are already saying whoever their choice for GOPe nominee is, he is gonna have to go left.

The one thing their elitist minds and consultants cannot fathom is the resolve of realists who know and believe in what a Constitutional Republic means.

They are going to analyze themselves right into another loss, freshly off the top of the Tsunami of November that gave them the one chance to show the world they are up to it. And, if they nominate a Jeb, or a Walker that will allow illegals here illegally to remain here legally and get citizenship in some fashion, they will lose again. I'll just stay home on election day (as I suspect millions of other conservatives will, too.

13 posted on 02/17/2015 5:12:03 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Soul of the South

I agree on that. I just think the overwhelming problem are the idiot voters who are brainwashed in publik skools all their life and then watch Jon Stewart for their news and think they are informed.


14 posted on 02/17/2015 5:16:04 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel; NY.SS-Bar9; ScottinVA; Flavious_Maximus; KC_Conspirator
RE :”I’ll bet you are kinda tired of that worn-out Constitution thing, too; seein’ as how it is over 200-years old and we can’t realistically go back to 1776.”

Time machines are fantasies from sci-fi movies. They don't really exist.
Living in a fantasy is believing that you will win the lottery and so you go on a spending spree.

The voters today are nothing like they were in 1984.
That should be obvious.

Cruz is not winning MA, NY, CA or Maryland, no chance of it.

15 posted on 02/17/2015 5:19:38 AM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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McCain, Dole and Romney all tried to appeal to the Democrats instead of putting forth a principled agenda that was clear, concise and communicated the message that freedom is better than a handout. The difference was bigger government or much bigger government.

The gibmedats had a choice between someone offering table scraps vs. the entire cookie jar. The Democrats had no reason to cross party lines. The Republicans had no reason to vote.

So, now the choice is to nominate a conservative that can fearlessly communicate the message, or let the republic slide further into the abyss.


16 posted on 02/17/2015 5:26:04 AM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
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To: Gaffer

If Walker is for amnesty, why did he join the suit with 25 other states to stop O’bastards amnesty plan?

Does WI issue drivers licenses to illegals? Does WI allow ‘sanctuary cities’ like pro-amnesty states do?

Saying he is pro-amnesty makes no sense when he has taken no action in that direction.


17 posted on 02/17/2015 5:26:30 AM PST by Beagle8U (NOTICE : Unattended children will be given Coffee and a Free Puppy.)
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To: Beagle8U

Ok.... one would think it is a valid argument, but time and context on issues like this, especially in a political career and potential run up to bigger things don’t make actions fixed for all time. It is evident to me that there are conflicting accounts on his position on the issue - a lot of them have been cited in other threads here.

All Walker needs to do is to categorically establish a clear position on it. Say that he is against legalizing illegals that are here (illegally) and not for allowing any of them to obtain citizenship in any fashion. That’s all. Until he does, I’m going to treat him like Jeb or any other candidate that won’t commit.


18 posted on 02/17/2015 5:31:46 AM PST by Gaffer
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RE :”McCain, Dole and Romney all tried to appeal to the Democrats instead of putting forth a principled agenda that was clear, concise and communicated the message that freedom is better than a handout. The difference was bigger government or much bigger government.”

That's a talk radio simpleton narrative(which is what talk radio is about) . Those losers candidates had a bunch of problems. It was easy to tell that they would lose.(not to Rush or Levin but to me)

Romney for instance insulted many voters with the 47% comments. That was not conservative or liberal.

The other two had a host of problems, one was that they were dinosours. .

19 posted on 02/17/2015 5:33:53 AM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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There are many liberal plants who fear Gov Walker and will LIE about him to divide us.

The liberal hit pieces are being printed....watch the dividers cite those sources when making their accusations against Walker.


20 posted on 02/17/2015 5:39:08 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Walker/Cruz 2016)
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