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Pope: 'God Is Not Afraid Of New Things'
Reuters ^ | 10/19/2014 | Reuters

Posted on 10/19/2014 9:38:43 PM PDT by detective

Pope Francis has closed an assembly of Catholic bishops that revealed deep divisions on how to respond to homosexuality and divorce, saying on Sunday the Church should not be afraid of change and new challenges.

Francis, who has said he wants a more merciful and less rigid Church, made his comments in a sermon to some 70,000 people in St. Peter's Square for the ceremonial closing of a two-week assembly, known as a synod.

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To: detective
Frances sounds like a Democrat... he thinks Church doctrine is a "living document" just like Lefties think the US Constitution is a "living document."
61 posted on 10/20/2014 5:52:32 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that needs to be subsidized is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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To: Jim from C-Town

Agreed. I’m not even a Catholic; yet, I was hopeful the new Pope would lead the church better than others in the past. Now, I am totally dismayed at what comes from the Vatican.


62 posted on 10/20/2014 7:16:50 AM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

For your information and review.

What do you think?


63 posted on 10/20/2014 7:18:49 AM PDT by detective
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To: Graybeard58

The one I read said they were ordained.


64 posted on 10/20/2014 7:27:42 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: RaceBannon

“I have to say it

How anyone can stay Roman Catholic is beyond me.”

The Catholic Church offers the teachings of Jesus Christ plus a rich 2000 year tradition. When you join a
Catholic parish you get to enjoy the company of truly good, loving, moral, family oriented people. The effect is unbelievably positive and life affirming.

The hierarchy of the Catholic Church has been infiltrated by a small network of evil people. The live a corrupt, immoral lifestyle. They take money from good, faithful Catholics to fund their immoral lives and causes. They try to subvert and sabotage holy, Catholic teaching.

Most Catholics never come into contact with these people. But they are continually covered in the MSM and portrayed as representing Catholics.


65 posted on 10/20/2014 7:30:20 AM PDT by detective
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To: RaceBannon

So your faith is contingent upon the actions of other men?


66 posted on 10/20/2014 7:37:38 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: detective

not by any evidence it has ever shown, it hasn’t


67 posted on 10/20/2014 7:50:32 AM PDT by RaceBannon (EIEObama (Ebola, ISIL, Open Borders, Enterovirus))
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To: Old Yeller

What ya lookin for..........Da Spanish Inquisition? ; )


68 posted on 10/20/2014 8:14:33 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: FreedomStar3028

I’ve always kind of felt that saying is completely misinterpreted. I never used to think about it, but as I get older I think it should only refer to where a person spends their afterlife.


The pope recently spoke out against ISIS beheading children in Iraq. — “Who is he to judge?”

We make moral judgments all the time. I was listening to American Family Radio recently (to people a lot smarter than myself) and this subject was discussed. “Judge not, lest ye be judged” is being used to stop all debate on any subject related to morality. They talked about how it is used out of context. The proper context is telling us not to be hypocrites. If a man is having an affair with a married woman, he shouldn’t make judgments about another man doing it.

Matthew 7

1Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.


69 posted on 10/20/2014 8:14:50 AM PDT by boycott
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To: detective
"God is not afraid of new things. That is why he is continuously surprising us, opening our hearts and guiding us in unexpected ways," the pope said.

Translation: God is always adjusting to new truths that replace old obsolete truths when we humans find the old truths inconvenient and/or boring.

Cardinal Raymond Burke has called out the Pope

70 posted on 10/20/2014 8:59:08 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan
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To: FreedomStar3028
Ok fertile mind....why don't Protestants have Holy Communion, the Body and Blood of Christ, not as a Symbol, but the ACTUAL Body and Blood, when Jesus told us Himself "To Take and Eat, this is MY BODY.....Take and Drink, this is MY BLOOD". Jesus gave this power to the Apostles....one being the first Pope....so that the Priesthood was established.

What about Jesus saying to the Apostles "whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven"??

Have to continue later....going to dentist.

71 posted on 10/20/2014 9:30:05 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
No, not at all. My faith is very important to me and is only dependent on myself and God. My church provides spiritual comfort and support.
72 posted on 10/20/2014 9:30:59 AM PDT by detective
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To: FreedomStar3028
You said to pray to Jesus for you.....all we do is replace ourselves with Mary......we ask the MOTHER of Jesus to ask Jesus for something we need, all the while praying to Jesus directly ourselves.

You have a chance to get to heaven because you've been baptized a Christian, but not sure that Jesus really likes His MOTHER being dissed so much.

73 posted on 10/20/2014 9:33:22 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Sorry for the first reply. I thought your question was addressed to me. Then I saw it was directed to Race Bannon.
74 posted on 10/20/2014 9:38:34 AM PDT by detective
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To: Ann Archy
the Body and Blood of Christ, not as a Symbol, but the ACTUAL Body and Blood

cannibalism is forbidden

Put up big signs "Come in and Eat Jesus Today" and see what kind of weirdo's come in.

75 posted on 10/20/2014 9:55:35 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: FreedomStar3028

The Pope should know better, God’s word says there is nothing new under the sun and God’s positions are pretty clear and well stated in His Word.

The Pope I fear is getting ready to give the Catholic church a full blown case of modernization aka liberalism which will cause terrible chasm in their church.


76 posted on 10/20/2014 11:10:12 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: detective
One report --- and who knows what to believe --- said that of the 265 four-minute talks given by bishops in ES1, only one --- one --- centered on homosexual concerns. It's the media mavins, it seems, who have made this the central concern of the family synod --- not the bishops themselves.

The Actual Synod has been almost totally cannibalized by the Media Synod.

That in mind, the rhetorical "mise-en-scène" which determines the meaning of vague phrases like "new things' seems capable of making those meanings shift like smoke and mirrors.

Pope Francis must know that: he's not such a fool not to know.

I agree with Cardinak Burke that Pope Francis' careful one-the-one-hand, on-the-other without actually taking a stand, perfectly exemplified in his closing homily, is capable of doing much damage.

The Enemy knows he's not going to get a doctrinal change --- that's impossible --- but he doesn't need it. All he needs is another decade of evasion, equivocation and confusion.

That worries me.

77 posted on 10/20/2014 11:13:43 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Judica me, Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
It appears Pope Francis and a small group of the hierarchical elite are pushing for vague, almost meaningless statements to the faithful.

These statements are continually spun by the MSM to assume the promotion of homosexuality within the church.

There have been no clear, concise messages of encouragement and support to the millions of faithful Catholic families in this so called Synod on the Family. There has just been weird, murky double talk.

The fact that the Pope appears to be saying that homosexuality is a “new thing” is very disturbing.

I am becoming more and more concerned for our one true church. The strong beliefs that the Son of God willingly died for are being replaced by slimy, enticements to prevarication and evil.

78 posted on 10/20/2014 11:25:50 AM PDT by detective
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To: GeronL

OMG!!! Better tell that to JESUS since that’s what HE said!!!!! Some of you people are really something!! You SAY you are Bible based, but you don’t do what JESUS TOLD YOU TO DO IN THE BIBLE!!!!!!


79 posted on 10/20/2014 12:10:04 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

Jesus didn’t tell me to eat a cracker and say I am eating HIM or drink purple drank and say I am drinking him.

I guess Fellatio on Jesus is coming too


80 posted on 10/20/2014 12:21:16 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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