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Pope: 'God Is Not Afraid Of New Things'
Reuters ^ | 10/19/2014 | Reuters

Posted on 10/19/2014 9:38:43 PM PDT by detective

Pope Francis has closed an assembly of Catholic bishops that revealed deep divisions on how to respond to homosexuality and divorce, saying on Sunday the Church should not be afraid of change and new challenges.

Francis, who has said he wants a more merciful and less rigid Church, made his comments in a sermon to some 70,000 people in St. Peter's Square for the ceremonial closing of a two-week assembly, known as a synod.

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Pope Francis makes general statements. The MSM then say the Pope endorses homosexuality.

How many times have we seen a repetition of this scenario? It becomes tiresome and damaging to faithful Catholics.

First, homosexuality is NOT a "new thing".

It has been documented as far back as Sodom and Gomorrah and it is even older than that.

God is not "afraid" of homosexuality. But it is clear that God, as well as any sincere person of faith, regards homosexuality as a sin and an abombination.

The concept being promoted is that Catholicism should stand for nothing, hold no moral positions and just accept whatever evil is in the world.

No one will say what evil surrounds us. They will just say we should accept evil.

1 posted on 10/19/2014 9:38:43 PM PDT by detective
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If the Pope wasn’t referring to homosexuality, then what new things was he referring to? I know how the MSM spins it, and I know the Pope was likely referring to something else. But what was he referring to?


2 posted on 10/19/2014 9:41:33 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: detective

>The concept being promoted is that Catholicism should stand for nothing, hold no moral positions and just accept whatever evil is in the world.<

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We must not be so juuuuuuuuudgmental.

Who are we to juuuuuudge?


3 posted on 10/19/2014 9:42:26 PM PDT by 353FMG
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The God I serve, the God of the Bible, is, according to the Bible, Unchanging and Perfect.

Sorry Pope, you could not be more unscriptural if you tried.

Catholics (and I am not a Catholic) you have a heretic leading you.


4 posted on 10/19/2014 9:43:07 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: FreedomStar3028

He may have been referring to a move toward letting divorced and remarried people have communion.


5 posted on 10/19/2014 9:45:34 PM PDT by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: FreedomStar3028
“what was he referring to”

I have no idea. And that is the problem. Instead of clear and concise teaching on morality Pope Francis issues general statementsmeant to appeal to liberals, the MSM and homosexual activists.

Pope Francis has abandoned the faithful Catholic families who work and sacrifice to keep the church going. He only tries to appeal to liberals and the MSM who hate and despise sincere, faithful Catholics.

6 posted on 10/19/2014 9:48:06 PM PDT by detective
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How long can a religious doctrine endure when sin is amendable based on popular tolerance among the followere? How can one strive toward perfection if the definition of perfection can be dumbed down?


7 posted on 10/19/2014 9:51:59 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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Exactly.

Why does liberalism have such a grasp on modern societies around the world? Is there an answer? Is it because easy life breeds these types of people? Compared to 100 years ago, our lives are simple. Compared to 200 years ago, those people couldn’t fathom what we have now. Is that it? 200 years ago any “modern liberal” would likely be flogged, hung, or at least run out of town as a dangerous village idiot.


8 posted on 10/19/2014 9:53:16 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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This Pope seems rather different to me. I'm not saying bad or anything like that, just...different.

I miss John Paul and I'm not even Catholic.... the goodness just seemed to flow from that fine man.


9 posted on 10/19/2014 9:55:09 PM PDT by Bobalu (Hashem Yerachem (May God Have Mercy)
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Obviously the Catholic Church....the Vatican is corrupt. The pope has become a position much like our pretender. A position for famous figure heads, who speak out both sides. Won’t say the truth, even when it is innocuous.

Perhaps the real world happens behind all this nonsense. Perhaps the devil controls them all. Marching humanity towards Armageddon, could that be the great deception? Every world leader is in Satan’s pocket. Thoughts like these certainly make a man think.


10 posted on 10/19/2014 9:57:23 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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Do not underestimate what is going on here. The meme that "God is doing a new thing" (based on a phrase in the Old Testament somewhere) was used by the homosexual lobby to pervert the practices and teachings of the Episcopal Church in America. Likewise in the Lutheran Church to get them to abandon long held teachings.

While the Catholic Church is a tougher nut than these Protestant groups, the other side is that they had to do it the hard way because they didn't have a Pope leading them into the wilderness.

11 posted on 10/19/2014 9:58:05 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Ecclesiastes 1:9. There is nothing new under the sun.


12 posted on 10/19/2014 10:08:03 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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I said it before and I’ll say it again - This Pope is doing to the Catholic church what Obama has done and continues to do to the US.


13 posted on 10/19/2014 10:10:42 PM PDT by aquila48
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Not one thing in the Holy Bible has changed since he became pope. Someone should make him aware of that.


14 posted on 10/19/2014 10:16:56 PM PDT by boycott
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"Why does liberalism have such a grasp on modern societies around the world? "

Liberalism is a doctrine of sinfulness. We live in a fallen world that becomes more and more decadent and morally bankrupt, as the world winds down toward the end times.

15 posted on 10/19/2014 10:18:14 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: 353FMG

Who are we to juuuuuudge?


And he used that out of context.

We make judgements every day. If someone murders, we make judgements about that. If someone steals, we make a judgement.

This pope seeking the approval of man.


16 posted on 10/19/2014 10:25:52 PM PDT by boycott
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Nothing is new to God. As a matter of fact, nothing has ever occurred to God. God knew about this perversion since before creation and God does not change.


17 posted on 10/19/2014 10:34:21 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: detective

Does GOD dance to our tunes?


18 posted on 10/19/2014 10:57:30 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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"Ecclesiastes 1:9. There is nothing new under the sun."

Ah yes! The wisdom of Solomon truly was a gift from God!!!

Yet even he was seduced by the flattery of his subjects and his wives and turned to idolitry and away from God before he died.

And so it is with nearly all "worldly leaders," even good men like Barry Goldwater for example. Young, liberal wives late in life do awful things to good conservative and righteous men!!!

19 posted on 10/19/2014 11:11:57 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Put a plastic shopping bag over the Governor's bald head!!!)
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I don’t know about the Pope. I pray for him every time this kind of thing comes out. Like renting out the Sistine Chapel to Porsche(got to read the story on that)

But here is what the article states, the reading of which, on FR, with Catholicism stories, is just not required. So I take comments very lightly

What the article states is, and which synchs with jimmy Akins version - link below- that the synod rejected with a strong pushback, not only the ideas of liberal minded clergy but renounced the press in erroneously reporting, right here in this story under the misleading headline

It can also be interpreted, though I’m not expecting it to be, here on this ‘delighted when the pope is liberal’ site, that the Pope said to the bishops, ‘these new ideas are rejected, not because they’re new, as God is not afraid of new things, but because they are not compatible with church teaching’

He also beatified Pope Paul VI at the end. Pope Paul VI published/ wrote Humanae Vitae - which was rejected by the clergy primarily by Jesuits and all cafeteria Catholics since 196(8?), when it came out, and which states that birth control is inherently evil, will lead to massive family breakup,wide addiction to pornography, anti femininity/motherhood -feminism, abortion, and acceptance of gender bending, homosexuality and use of pornography, along with immodesty in women

And the Pope declared him to be holy and likely in heaven as a saint at the end of this conference- a man whose teachings are rejected by liberals

Ok?

Jimmy Akins: http://m.ncregister.com/42967/b#.VEShQNm9Kc0

This reuters article we are commenting on:
The working session of the gathering ended on Saturday night with a final document that reversed a historic acceptance of gays by the Church made just a week earlier — a result some progressives see as a setback for Francis. “God is not afraid of new things. That is why he is continuously surprising us, opening our hearts and guiding us in unexpected ways,” the pope said.

At the Mass, he beatified Pope Paul VI, who died in 1978, bringing the pontiff best known for concluding the ground-breaking reforms of the Second Vatican Council and enshrining the Church’s ban on contraception a step closer to sainthood.


20 posted on 10/19/2014 11:13:59 PM PDT by stanne
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