Justice Dept. sides with 14-year-old girl raped while serving as 'bait' in middle school sting

al.com ^ | 09/17/2014 | Challen Stephens

[a fool in paradise]

The VP and the lawyers are scum. Then against Hillary Clinton herself blamed a teenage rape victim and laughed about it.

[Responsibility2nd]

I see. Your point is that it really wasn’t rape-rape.

OhhhKayyyy.

[driftdiver]

forgot?

[caligatrux]

The term "rape" is used by the author of the article because clearly the special needs girl did not want to be sodomized by the boy.

However, nothing in the article suggests there are any charges of rape, or anycriminal charges at all, pending against the boy.

This doesn't look like a criminal case against the boy. It looks like a civil suit against the school.

The only negative thing that appears to have happened to the boy was having the incident listed as "inappropriate touching" in his school discipline record.

[caligatrux]

There is no rape charge. The boy was given a 5-day suspension.

[Kirkwood]

A teacher’s aide cooked up this scheme and the school administrator agreed with it. WTH?

[wastedyears]

Throw them all in prison and melt down the key. The 16 year old rapist, too. His parents obviously don’t care, if he has any at all. He shouldn’t see the light of day.

[a fool in paradise]

Did she consent to enter the bathroom? Did she agree in the hallway to engage?

For a criminal trial, that’s going to be a hurdle to go over.

Statutory rape laws used to mean that NO minor below “age of consent” could legally consent. But the hedonists won on that matter.

Now we are trying to argue the case for mentally challenged persons.

The school is the culprit and so is the perp. But a court conviction is going to require a burden of proof that may not be met for criminal (civil yes) conviction.

[arthurus]

If you are familiar with the Leninist view of Women’s Lib, this all makes sense. Women are to be considered community property and not to be hoarded. Communists classically thought of women as sex objects to be enjoyed unselfishly and who could also do useful work in the mines and at assembly lines.

[a fool in paradise]

A civil suit only needs a 51% likelihood to convict.

[a fool in paradise]

Free love isn’t free. It leaves a trail of human debris.

[Cboldt]

Sort of like getting government lecture about not having or using guns, because only preofessionals (the police) can be trusted. Then wehn you need help, the police aren't "right there."

There is no way a suit would proceed against the police for not protecting, they have no duty to do so, not even if they encourage you to be bait in a sting operation.

I wonder what the status of this suit is. What is the Justice Department advocating for? Stripping federal funds from the school? Or are the feds offering to pay the demand?

[Responsibility2nd]

Yes. While all of us (except a fool...) agrees this was rape, there is no mention of criminal actions in this article. I suppose we would have to do further digging and searching to find out what may have happened with respect to criminal charges.

But for now - this article only addresses the civil liability of the school.

IMO - there are plenty of school staffers who need to be tried and convicted on criminal charges too.

[caligatrux]

A civil suit only needs a 51% likelihood to convict.

No one is "convicted" in a civil suit. The plaintiff in a civil suit has the burden of proving his/her case by a "preponderance of the evidence" which you can try to sum up as a "51% likelihood" but it is really a more nebulous standard when put in front of a judge or a jury.

My point is that this case has nothing to do with the boy. He has gotten all the punishment he is going to get: a 5-day suspension and a brief transfer to a different school.

This is a lawsuit against the school. Whether the girl "consented" or not is only peripherial to the issue before the court.

Absolutely tragic.

[Cboldt]

-- if the set up was her being affirmative, the courts may find it difficult to convict on a rape charge, let alone the issue of entrapment. --

The school administrators didn't rape her. The case is, I think, a civil case, money damages against the school district. Any rape charge would run against the rapist, and it would be up to the local DA to bring the charge.

[Responsibility2nd]

All right. Let me boil it down for you.

Do YOU believe the girl was raped? If you were a juror, would you vote “Guilty”?

I honestly don’t believe you would. And that makes you as sick as the school staffers as you all try to “explain” it away.

[jonno]

Quietly, professionally, and deliberately, there would be some fatal “accidents” of school staff had that been my daughter.

Yep.

“Vice-Principal Dunaway testified that (the girl) was responsible for herself once she entered the bathroom,”

I can't even wrap my brain around the logic used to make this statement.

Once again, liberalism is proven to be a mental disorder...

[ridesthemiles]

How convenient!!!

Law & Order:
SUV is resuming on NBC.
Here is a ready made episode.......

[Wolfie]

It’s nice to see the Justice Dept. on the right side of an issue for a change.

[a fool in paradise]

If someone attempts to hire a hitman but it was part of a sting to catch the hitman, and the hitman kills the person you called the hit on, are you guilty of conspiracy to commit murder?