Posted on 09/09/2014 11:09:33 PM PDT by This Just In
As so many in the general public have witnessed, I watched the video involving Ray Rice and his fiance (she is now his wife), Janay Palmer, and the assault which occurred at an Atlantic City, New Jersey casino.
There are two facts which I find disturbing surrounding this case. After viewing the video I read some of the comments in response to the footage.
A number of ppl actually blamed Ms. Palmer for the altercation, or stated that she "had it coming" due to her supposed drunkenness. How they came to the conclusion that Ms. Palmer was drunk is beyond me. Apparently staring at a grainy video for a few seconds is proof enough to determine whether or not an individual is intoxicated despite the fact that the woman isn't stumbling about with a bottle of brew in her hand while singing '99 Bottles of Beer'.
Let us say - for the sake of argument - that Ms. Palmer was drunk. Would that fact justify Ray Rices assault of Ms. Palmer? Mr. Rice spat on the woman at least twice before they entered the elevator. While in the elevator, he spits on her yet again when she finally responds to his behavior. He then cold-cocks her.
The kind of "logic" which leads ppl to believe that, "Hey, she was drunk, so she had it comin'" is the same type of logic which leads this country to further moral depravity.
Secondly, why did it take a video before the Ravens fired Ray Rice? A two game suspension for assault?! I guess money and wins trumps assaulting a woman. The only reason the Ravens decided to fire Ray Rice was because they knew the public backlash would be tremendous.
A players contributions to the team and a winning season should never trump a players criminal behavior. The NFL as well as the Ravens should be ashamed for perpetuation such behavior by players committing crimes against innocent ppl.
This incident is a shining example of one reason I have less interest in a lot of professional sports.
What say you?
The NFL hasn't banned him for life. They suspended him "indefinitely," which is not going to stay in place. There's no provision under the NFL-NFLPA collective bargaining agreement for an indefinite suspension, and this sort of thing wouldn't be permitted under the law in any case.
I suspect the NFL is preparing to work behind the scenes to pay Ray Rice a substantial settlement to just go away and never show his face anywhere near an NFL game in the future.
Self defense is a protected right for everyone, and every man is justified in defending himself against this.
This case isn't about a man defending himself against a woman anyway, so why expand it to include that?
Ray will be back. An aa the lete is a terrible thing to waste.
Just like micould Vic #7 and many select chosen, forgiveness is just around the corner. Hell,,,the resident might even go to bat for him
Released? I think the police are justified in arresting him.
From what I have been hearing, women stay with men like that, no matter their economic standing. I don’t get it.
Albeit is always more infuriating than being knocked unconscious. If the fury escalates, there can be reverse head butts to the nose, stomped toes, ear splitting screams, scratching, biting and God help you if she is a judoka!
BTW I’m not speaking from experience. My lovely redhead wife has gotten mad a time or two but never that mad.
Even couples who physically fight, do so a tiny fraction of the time. We live in the most policed society of all time. Throughout most of history, women have been attracted to guys that can defend them and the household, fight off rivals and aggressively assert themselves in the fields and marketplace. Not to mention the fact that the offspring of Ray Rice won’t even have to flinch a shoulder to lay out a bully. Can’t you just see Janay’s daughter jacking up some poor fool rapist or paramour, in an elevator, by the neck, like Darth Vader, 20 years from now?
If he violated any morals clause in his contract, there are damages and there are remedies, perhaps including termination.
What bothers me about this incident is the media-driven moral panic, it's like all the nonsense about colleges punishing rapes or "sexual assaults". The only thing missing is the Congressional hearing (but I haven't read the paper yet this morning). Maybe we'll be hearing about "Janay's law" by tomorrow.
Look, if you bottle thuggery and make billions, you shouldn't bitch about it when some of it accidentally spills out on video. And when you collect millions of late adolescents/young adults together who have just finished four years of organized ego-building, put them under pressure in the daylight, mix the sexes in living quarters, and look the other way when they get drunk or get high at night, well, you shouldn't need a Senator to tell you what's going to happen.
Lots of pro athletes, minus the gift, would be in prison or dead. Americans, especially young men, are raised to look up to them.
I'd give Janay her $25 million meal ticket back. She bought the ticket, let her take the ride.
And for God's sake, let the billionaire owners and the politicians they buy with their money shut up for once.
She waw not battered. She was struck once. Are you aware all all the factors that may have also contributed to her becoming unconscious? Was she on medication? Was she intoxicated? Did she ever have a prior injury? Did she strike her head against a rail or a wall on the way down? Was she concussed or did she merely faint? Was there bruising? What did the x-rays reveal?
Or maybe the Ravens will wear "domestic violence awareness" helmets in game #7.
Do you understand WHY the NFL, which is already a fabulous wealth generator, has become so obsessed with marketing to, and it's reputation among, young women?
Girls are bored by football (for the most part). They don't "get" it.
Roger Goodell, who has already made his padróns billionaires by running a sanitized thug show that appeals to young and even middle-aged white men is constant having media events regarding breast cancer (when the NFL could and should promote prostate cancer funding) and other issues/images to appeal to women.
They're not going to get much more of a female audience no matter what, so, what's it all about?
This is why the NFL has now completely crossed the line into the entertainment world as defined by People magazine, TMZ and "Entertainment Tonight." They don't care if women like football or not. They -- or, more accurately, their sponsors -- only care if women are interested enough in Tom Brady's wife Giselle to tune into a Super Bowl for 15 minutes.
It's not about the football anymore, dude. That's why I haven't watched an NFL game in years.
I have no sympathy for Ray Rice. That said, is this incident with his former fiancée, now wife, the first domestic violence case in which he has been involved? If so, how does the NFL get away with an “indefinite” suspension when its new rules call for a 6-game suspension for first offenses? This is especially true given that the incident occurred before the rules were even devised.
Rice's suspension from the NFL will probably be exactly six games. But because his contract was terminated by the Ravens, he's basically "suspended" until another team is willing to sign him -- which will probably never happen.
The problem with the NFL is that players have absolutely zero leverage. There's really no alternative professional league for them to play in, like you have in basketball, hockey or soccer.
Just be sure to bear hug from behind. If you do it from the front you can be bitten!
The thug not only acted like an ass before cold-cocking her, the video shows the elevator doors opening and he moves away from her body and stands up to act like nothing is going on. The doors close and he bends back down to her. He knew he was doing wrong and acted accordingly. He deserves to be on a chain gang, working for each meal instead of being paid millions.
Great explanation, thanks.
Through out my dating years I went out with a few women who were in a state of turmoil or drama and seemed to have a short fuse. I would shed these women like the plaque, They were walking disasters looking for a place to explode and show how tough they were. One was a preachers daughter......very shocking when this trait showed itself. These people seemed to work hard at being unhappy!!!
And there's the irony. Is the NFL going to stop recruiting men with violent or criminal behavior in their backgrounds? Does the NFL really want to totally tame their players? Might make for a less exciting game.
I'm all for "innocent until proven guilty". Under this standard, Michael Vick would not be playing football. But Rice would, at least until he's charged with something.
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