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Israel Will Pay for More Abortions in 2014
Time ^ | 12/30/2013 | Noah Rayman

Posted on 12/30/2013 5:04:36 PM PST by LonelyCon

Israel will pay for abortions for women between the age of 20 and 33 in 2014, Ha’aretz reports, and health officials announced Monday they hope to expand eligibility to all women in the future.

The funding was approved as part of the 2014 list of state-subsidized medical items, and expands coverage for women who were previously eligible for state-funded abortions only in the case of a medical emergency or sexual abuse. Women under 20 and over 40 are already eligible for state-funded abortions regardless of circumstance.

The new rule will allow for 6,300 more women to have abortions next year.

(Excerpt) Read more at world.time.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: abortion; buzzfeed; israel; katenocera; randsconcerntrolls
I hope none of the US aid to Israel goes to pay for this abomination. What is Netanyahu thinking?
1 posted on 12/30/2013 5:04:36 PM PST by LonelyCon
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To: LonelyCon

Child sacrifice to the God Molech.


2 posted on 12/30/2013 5:08:54 PM PST by circlecity
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To: LonelyCon

I’ve never heard of Netanyahu having any problem with abortion, and he’s not really in charge of Israel’s socialist bureaucracies anyway.


3 posted on 12/30/2013 5:10:18 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: LonelyCon

Immoral and STUPID.


4 posted on 12/30/2013 5:10:39 PM PST by Mach9
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To: LonelyCon

The only parties in Israel you can seemingly count on for stuff like this are the ultra-Orthadox parties.


5 posted on 12/30/2013 5:10:48 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: LonelyCon

And “aid to Israel” is overwhelmingly required to be spent on military contracts with US companies.


6 posted on 12/30/2013 5:12:03 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: LonelyCon
Jews don't believe the baby is a real person until some time after she is born. So killing her in the womb is not such a big deal to them.
7 posted on 12/30/2013 5:18:34 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: LonelyCon

I bet I can guess who told them this was conditional for more US support dollars.


8 posted on 12/30/2013 5:20:23 PM PST by MNDude
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To: LonelyCon

Sad. They are god’s chosen people. They always will be.


9 posted on 12/30/2013 5:34:29 PM PST by HChampagne
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To: MNDude

“I bet I can guess who told them this was conditional for more US support dollars.”

Good bet and safe analysis.

Undoubtedly, Obama is funding the slaughter of Jewish babies.


10 posted on 12/30/2013 5:46:17 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: LonelyCon

Apparently the Israeli government hates jewish babies.


11 posted on 12/30/2013 5:48:45 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: LonelyCon

Life is empty without babies. Satan is out there, whispering in young pregnant women’s ears telling them it’s nothing. It’s not really MURDER.

But it really is MURDER. The womb shouldn’t be the most dangerous place a babie comes from.


12 posted on 12/30/2013 5:51:38 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Up yours NSA !)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I had to research this.
Jews are taught to “choose life” and to “be fruitful and multiply”

there was an ancient rabbi who taught that life began at the quickening (about day 40 we now know) because that was the firs real proof they had of a baby being present.
SO, one rabbi I interviewed mentioned he would allow, but not encourage of course, flexibility up to the quickening, following that old sage. BUT all the other rabbis I interviewed said... that modern medical knowledge has to be reflected in any advice they give... and they opposed abortion right from conception to birth, period.
Only two exceptions ....
1. if abortion necessary to save life of the mother (rare, but it happens).... because other people are already relying on the mother...
and
2. one rabbi indicated he would allow for abortions if medical science shows the child to be “severely deformed” so that it was , in his words, “a clear mistake”

the other rabbis I interviewed did not like that position and said that it was still a child and it was up to God not mankind to decide such things.

anyway, when I went to the Roman Catholic bishop (and his first-officer, so to speak, cleric assigned the abortion portfolio)... I was told that they agreed 99 percent with the above, excepting only the first rabbi’s allowing for the quickening. Protestant clergy I met with had similar views, and the margins were, again, only for 1 or 2 percent of the most difficult kinds of cases.

getting back to your point, Jews believe the baby is a real person from conception, based on modern medical knowledge. Killing in the womb is therefore a big, big deal to Jews. And almost always prohibited.

EXCEPT that many Jews are “liberal” and do not choose to follow. Same for Christians, whether RC or Prot. Many are “liberal” either personally or by joining together in “liberal churches”

and do not follow any real recognizable version of the received Biblical faith tradition, in my humble opinion anyway. at least, they teach a major reinterpretation of same.

But Jews, like Catholics and Protestants, are taught to respect or choose life... and to be fruitful and multiply. they are not taught to abort ...

In addition to visiting several dozen churches, I once had occasion to visit a reform (liberal) synagogue where the rabbi happened to be holding a Q and A session with his congregation. you could just stand up and ask any question (of course he was also available in private if you wished, but this seemed like a great idea to me, too).
one old lady related quite sincerely how she had seen an angel, had a visitation, and inquired of the good rabbi what he could tell her about this. he said angels don;t exist. a “reform” rabbi, as it turned out.
WELL, here again, we had a cleric who did not read or follow his received tradition, or at least did not follow his scriptures, as the Bible is certainly not bereft of messengers from on High!

meaning, only, that I would respectfully annotate your comment to say, there are some, perhaps many, Jews who don’t believe the baby is a real person until .... the quickening (NOT until sometime after she is born, for goodness; sakes!)

but even that does not appear to be the majority viewpoint, since it follows a 2000+/- year old interpretative ruling of one ancient rabbi who lacked modern medical knowledge.

at any event, I had to research all this stuff and more for a project I was doing, and I met with dozens of clerics.
Killing in the womb is a big deal to most Jews. A very big deal, to be avoided at almost all costs. Again, if you ask the “cafeteria Jews” (like “cafeteria Catholics”) or maybe better, if you ask the “liberal Jews” you will be met with the very same “let’s change things, let’s ignore or rewrite the received Biblical tradition” .... as you encounter with, say the “Catholic” Pelosi. who, for all I know, may also reject the Bible about angels?

But Pelosi does NOT speak for the Church position, just as “liberal” Jews do not speak for the traditional Jewish teaching on this, or many other I suspect, subject(s). they speak for themselves and possibly many in their “reformed” liberal congregations. but not for the totality of Judaism, that was made very clear by the rabbis I interviewed.

Ir ia unfortunate that when a parishioner departs from many of the most important church (or synagogue) teachings, that they don’t wear a sign saying “ex-Christian” or at least “newfangled liberal radical revisionist Christian” (or Jew).
but they usually just continue to identify themselves as Christians or Jews, and they wear no signs to the contrary.

so long as have “mixed flocks” we have to be cautious not to assume that one viewpoint speaks for all who identify as members of that faith community. and especially when that viewpoint does not appear to enjoy much, if any, scriptural authority. Liberalism is alive and well these days in so many denominations it seems, albeit I keep wondering if maybe it might abort itself out of existence ?

all the best,
fhc


13 posted on 12/30/2013 5:56:47 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: hinckley buzzard

ps:
here is a traditional Jewish perspective, from an authoritative rabbinical source, concerning abortion.

it does not agree quite 100 percent with the RC Church position but the two are still very close in the vast majority of circumstances...

I list it below because I have no portfolio to speak for any Church or rabbinic positions, I merely had to research this topic that is all... so let us permit some of the traditional Jewish rabbis to state their own case, here:

http://www.aish.com/ci/sam/48954946.html


14 posted on 12/30/2013 6:10:03 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: LonelyCon
The new rule will allow for 6,300 more women to have abortions next year.

Gosh -- Palestinian terrorists could only dream of doing this kind of damage to Israel's people.

15 posted on 12/30/2013 6:30:26 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Yehuda

look up the word..>ALSO

it means I changed the subject

reading comprehension again...


17 posted on 12/31/2013 2:30:19 PM PST by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: Yehuda

Agreed. Non- religious Jews are quite like non_ religious Christians. They ignore or deny Much of the faith I was only speaking to what the religious teachings are People have free will and so they do as they wish. Alas ! Like Nancy pelosi to cite just one of millions. I hear very good things about the charity you posted and have it on my list of candidates for inclusion in my will. Thanks.


18 posted on 12/31/2013 3:17:08 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: Yehuda

This law has very limited application, such as performing the Pidyon Haben ceremony (redeeming first-born Israelite sons from a Cohen) only a month after birth. But the Brit Millah (circumcision) ceremony is performed within this one-month period, on the eighth day after birth. In no way, shape or form does Jewish Law (Halacha) permit or make it a lighter offense to kill infants in the first month after birth, let alone before birth, except maybe for civil reparations, if a man assaults a woman and causes her to miscarry. Jewish law is a very complex body of rules, and you really can’t make a blanket statement like “Jews don’t believe the baby is a real person until some time after she is born” in all contexts.


19 posted on 12/31/2013 5:44:27 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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