Posted on 10/10/2013 9:44:34 AM PDT by jazusamo
Before you rejoice that the government has seized an alleged terrorist in Libya who was indicted for planning the notorious 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Africa, before you join the House of Representatives in a standing ovation for the Capitol Hill police who killed a woman whose car struck a White House fence and who then drove away at a high speed, and before you commend the New York Police Department for quickly getting to the bottom of an alleged assault by a motorcycle gang that tormented a young family on a city street, please give some thought to the rule of law.
Last weekend, a team of Navy SEALs kidnapped a Libyan, Abu Anas al-Libi, off of a public street in Tripoli. The Navy men did not have a warrant for his arrest, did not have the permission of the local authorities or the Libyan government to carry out this kidnapping, and were unlawfully present bearing arms in public in Libya. Many of al-Libis alleged accomplices already had been arrested, prosecuted and convicted in the United States. The U.S. could have sought his extradition, as it did with some of them, had President Obama not bombed the American-friendly government of Col. Moammar Gadhafi out of existence, without a congressional declaration of war.
Obama apologists have praised this maneuver as a bloodless way to obtain justice without using drones to kill. (How low we have sunk when Mr. Obama can be praised for not executing someone with a drone.) Secretary of State John F. Kerry, acknowledging that al-Libi is innocent until proved guilty, has claimed that the rule of law was followed here because he will be brought to a civilian U.S. court for trial...
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That’s not news to us!
Liberaltarians lack common sense.
Terrorist should be tried in a US civilian court, unless of course, I decide to execute them first.
We should close down Gitto and secret prisons.... however, US NAVY ship in international waters are fine.
The Boston Marathon suspect was Miranda by DOJ attorney and Federal Judge... When will the FBI board the Navy ship were al-Liba is being held and Miranda him...
High crimes and misdemeanors are committed daily by this regime, but you can't indict the black guy.
The repubs have no spine or stomach for impeachment. The senate would not ever convict. If, somehow, it happened, you have Biden as president. There's an improvement!
It seems as if the self professed Kenyan is creating crisis after crisis. Every one greater than the last. Every one serving as a distraction from the real problem which is the continual trashing of the constitution, the ultimate legal backstop of the US.
I have no idea how this ends but the train seems to be heading straight towards fascism.
Tilted Irish Kilt Correction: America is no longer a nation of laws but a nation governed by lawless, arrogant men.
Final Correction: America is no longer a nation of laws but a nation governed by lawless, arrogant men women.
(side note: STL won last night, will the Tigers come back? As we have talked before, a rematch of the Cards and Tigers would be great. Good luck tonight. GO Cards)
I think it was an US Army Delta Force team, not the US Navy Seals that went into Libya.
The team in Libya was reported not to be NSWDevGru but SFOD-1 Delta supported by CIA shooters and FBI HRT. If the Judge is going to report, at least he should be accurate.
You’re both correct.
Delta Force strike was in Libya, SEALS strike was in Somalia.
In what way is he contradicting himself?
Bombs dropped under Republican administration = Bad
Bombs dropped under Democrat administration = Good?
Interrogation done under Republican administration = Bad
Interrogation done under Democrat administration = Good?
Guantanamo under Republican administration = Bad
Guantanamo under Democrat administration = Good?
Afghanistan under Republican administration = Bad
Afghanistan under Democrat administration = Good?
Libya....oh, that’s right.....this one is all Democrat.
Overthrowing the government of Libya under Democrat administration = Good?
U.S. Constitution - Amendment 5 - "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury..."
The "presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury" is also known as an arrest warrant.
Now, if a person is suspected of committing an act of war against the United States, and said person is to be arrested and detained for prosecution in a military tribunal, I am not at all sure that an arrest warrant would be required.
The United States military is not, and should not be used as, a civilian law enforcement agency.
Put another way, the decision to use military personnel to perform an action, is a decision to step outside the framework of law, and the person making that decision is responsible for the consequences.
Soldiers are not police, and the decision to use one like the other is damaging to the Constitution. This also goes in the other direction, where you equip and train police like soldiers. The line between the two should NOT be crossed.
That's already happened in the UK, in the murder of Brit soldier Lee Rigby by a pair of Muslims. It may have already happened in the US, with the Navy Yard shootings.
Could you imagine if we had all this crap in WW2?
So to some of the judges ilk then we would have had to got a warrant to get some of the high profile NAZIS.
The sooner some realize we are at war and there are people who wear civilian clothes who want to destroy the country and us the better
He does? Wow.
I must admit, there's something about him that I've never liked.
Jesus Christ: You cant impeach Him and He aint going to resign.
I was shocked when he said it on fox and friends. Then again mehgan kelly was there.
I'm pretty sure he was pointing out that by the rules the Obama malAdministration have set for themselves (that is, treating terrorism as CRIME instead of as acts of war) an arrest warrant was needed in order for the recent snatching of this al-Libi character to be legal (once again, under the rules THEY have set for themselves).
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