Skip to comments.Will the 1991 Biography Discovery Force Obama to Open the Hood?
Posted on 05/26/2012 9:15:05 AM PDT by Menehune56
Three possibilities follow the bombshell discovery that Barack Obama was promoted in 1991 through 2007 by his professional agency as an author "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii." (1) Obama untruthfully presented himself as Kenya-born. (2) Obama untruthfully presents himself as Hawaii-born. (3) Obama had no knowledge that his bio contained the 16-year-old "error" which was corrected in April of 2007, when Obama was gearing up his campaign for the U.S. presidency.
Publishers don’t make mistakes like that. Obama or someone else would have called them on it 21 years ago. It’s obvious the left has fraudulently pulled the wool over the heads of the american people to get obama on the ballot. Sheriff Joe is the only one with the cohonees to do a full law enforcement investigation of this scam. The way the investigation is going it’s just a matter of time before the truth is revealed and blows up in the democrats face.
I guess we just have to hope Gov. Romney is unprincipled enough to have surrogates and proxies do the dirty work.
....................What does make sense is that was what she was told and that was what was written.................
She’s gonna get dirty down there in the records retention room looking for a 21 year old box to attack with her handi-dandi industrial strength shredder!
There needs to be some serious explaining to the American people why republican officials and all the media won’t even bring up these lies and secrets in obama’s past.
THE TRUTH MUST COME OUT.
Traitors, all, who don’t come forward even at the risk of death. Cowards, certain.
In 1991 Obama was only three years out of Harvard. Every alumni in a top notch grad school tracks everyone else, especially the high flyers such as the (first black) president of the school Law Review. Obama’s born-in-Kenya story therefore must have been consistent with what Obama claimed with his student colleagues while in Harvard.
That’s not the same as saying what Obama claimed about his birthplace at Harvard while he attended law school there is true. Obama could simply be providing continuity once having graduated from Harvard for a lie he told school officials while in Harvard as to where he was born for student aid purposes. If so, because of needed consistency of the paperwork trail for admissions purposes, that lie would likely extend all the way back to Occidental.
Bingo. You nailed it. He was obviously telling everyone he was born in Kenya. He must have applied for college as a foreign student. My guess is he had Indonesian citizenship at the time.
THIS MEANS THAT OUR PRESIDENT ONCE ANSWERED, ON AN OFFICIAL DOCUMENT, “No” to the question
“Are you an American citizen?”
Holy hell; we can’t let him win again. He MUST show his college records, every last one. If mitt had a pair he’d demand it.
I want to go on record as agreeing with this. For years I put forth the argument that there was no record of BHO claiming Kenyan birth. I no longer stand by that assertion.
Never believed the Kenyan birth thing. But there is still no real evidence he was born in HI. Some say it is simply an issue of name, that does not pass the smell test either. My gut tells me that he was born in Canada in unwed mother's home and late registered in HI. With a willing HI Dr. SAD could have filled out the paperwork just before she went to Canada and in Canada decided she would raise the child. Would have made the presence in Washington state in college days after the birth. In my opinion BHO, Sr. was not the biological father of BHO, Jr. but a patsy for hire to stand in for the real bio father. Possibly FMD.
Authors write their own bios, and after it’s printed they are asked to review it for accuracy. This is specifically true of the literary agency in question and of the industry as a whole.
Offer a fat reward (or funding for their projects) in exchange for information....
Somethings gotta pry the info outta them
Why do all of these people....the publisher, Michelle, Obamas grandmother, Obama himself.....why do all of these people keep making the same mistake? Isn’t it more likeley that all of these insiders know exactly where obama was born and have said so. We know obama to be a liar. That is his best feature. But an entire nation is frozen in fear of being marginalized if those certain words are uttered. That is what does not make sense.
Problem is, your average Democrat has no understanding of the term "laugh test."
So you guys are now “Partial Birthers”?
“The editor of the Harvard Law Review failed to review his own bio for his first book.”
Only an idiot would believe such a statement.
Only a political hack could make such a statement.
I keep hearing Obama defenders say, 'That was just a gaffe'. As if the word "gaffe" means, 'staggering degree of ignorance'.
I looked it up in Mirriam-Webster:
Definition of GAFFE
1: a social or diplomatic blunder
2: a noticeable mistake
Examples of GAFFE
He realized that he had committed an awful gaffe when he mispronounced her name.
[She] committed a huge gaffe when she started drinking from the finger bowl
Iow, you don't say, when you flunk an exam, 'I gaffed it'. No, you just didn't know the answers. You were, iow, ignorant of the subject matter.
Obama has committed his share of gaffes. But believing HI is in Asia is not a gaffe. It's the kind of mistake a Kenyan would make that a native-born Hawaiian never would.
Interesting article. Silence from the media is deafening.
Nothing to see here...
Alinsky tactics are pretty effective. Ridicule, deflect.
conspiricy nuts, birthers, racist etc.
Is it just me or is it kinda rare to work for a business that is a CIA front? I mean, I’ve been working for over 30 years and I’ve never worked for one. Know a lot of people. No one I know has ever worked for one. BTW, I’ve got my birth certificate in the console in my car. Forgot to remove it the last time I NEEDED IT!!!!! Note to self, take your birth certificate out of the car.
It's mindboggling how quickly and thoughtlessly so many dismiss this as a 16 yr long ‘error’. There's no way to know if it's an error or not. If it is an error, then why [to ask just one of dozens of questions] is one week, and only one week, missing from the immigration files in the National Archives—the ones that record overseas arrivals into HI—and why does that One Week include the supposed date of Obama’s birth, Aug. 4 1961???
If you live in moonbat Obamaville, I suppose it's just a strange coincidence. In the real world, it buttresses the idea that mother and baby—who was probably born several mos prior—came to HI during that week. Conveniently, Virginia Sunahara—whose original BC is more tightly guarded than our nuclear secrets—died during that same period. (This also explains why no one in HI remembers SAD getting married, giving birth or bringing a newborn baby home. Not a soul. Not believable that at least one person wouldn't recall some part of this scenario...if it actually happened.)
Yes, I believe granny Dunham secured a birth registration for Obama. I don't believe he was born in HI, however. I used to believe it, but not any more.
Thanks for the ping. Have you seen this thread?
It seems as if new and interesting “back story” stuff is suddenly readily available. Wonder why now and why not in 2007?
Thanks for the Ping. I read this article last night (here in Yokohama) and thought about posting it. Glad someone put it up.
I won't speak for El Sordo but personally, no, I'm not a birther. I still believe that Obama was born in Hawaii and the Vattel "2 citizen parent" argument is a load of bunk that will never get support in any court. In short, I believe Obama is eligible to serve as President.
There is no doubt however that the Breitbart story changes things. I'm not buying for a minute that this was some error made by the literary agents. I now believe there is controversy surrounding Obama's birth. (Does this make me a partial birther? Perhaps.) Turns out Obama isn't afraid people would find out he wasn't born in Hawaii. He's afraid people will find out he used to lie about being born in Kenya.
We cannot witness our own birth. We only know what we have been told.
Occidental, Columbia and Harvard all happen to be private educational institutions. In the 1970s and 1980s I’m not quite certain what kind of scholarship applications Obama was required to file (that is, private or public). I can recall vaguely that there was an umbrella financial aid application that one could fill out for all colleges. I’m not certain that this was official. If Obama filled one of these out incorrectly, then it seems as if it would be alleged fraud. The statute of limitations on fraud probably applies. In any case the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act of 1974 (FERPA) undoubtedly applies. Having written that, colleges can be fairly leaky with student information (I know because I once worked in the records office for a major university, and it was always a temptation to look up another student’s file, though I never did). This implies to me that Obama might have illicitly had his student files at the educational institutions he attended “cleaned up.”
I am distantly recalling an executive order that Obama passed once he got into office that was related to privacy. I wonder if some details of that EO would further act to decrease access to the information relevant to these types of questions.
Interesting link. Bookmarked to read in more detail later.
Do not know much about this site, or the author(s) of this article
Only an idiot would believe such a statement.
Only a political hack could make such a statement.
Think about this:
1. Here we have Obama just a few years out of Harvard Law School, and now suddenly a major literary agent wants to represent this relatively unknown 30 something young man from Hawaii who has never published a book before. Many young, struggling writers wish that they could be so lucky.
2. Obama is, what, about 30 years old at the time.
3. To promote this new "writer", the literary agent puts Obama's short bio alongside the short bios of famous people like Tip O'Neil, the former speaker of the house.
4. I bet that 30 year old something Obama must have been absolutely excited to see his short bio alongside those of so many famous people that he couldn't believe it, because 30 something Obama had not yet published a book.
5. And, as we now know, Obama's short "born in Kenya" bio ran for about 17 years until around 2007.
6. My point is this: I bet Obama was so excited---he probably couldn't wait to call all his friends and family members to tell them about his short bio that sat alongside all those famous people in the pamphlet--- that he probably had several copies of that short bio around his home to show and give to friends and relatives, so there was no way that Obama, his friends, and his relatives could have missed seeing that Obama's birthplace was "mistakenly" listed as "Kenya."
7. Also, I believe that relatively unknown 30 something Obama looked at his short bio over and over, because he probably couldn't believe that this unknown person from Hawaii had his short bio printed alongside all those famous people.
8. For instance, have you ever had your name in the local newspaper for something you did, like being a star at a sports event in high school?
9. If it was the first time that you ever saw your name or picture in the local paper, remember how you looked at it over and over and how you couldn't wait to tell your friends and relatives about your name being in the newspaper?
10. Well, that is how I believe 30 something and yet unpublished Obama must have felt and done the first time that he saw his picture and short bio in the pamphlet alongside all those famous people: He looked at his picture and short bio over and over for many days and months and years, because he couldn't really believe that this once unknown boy from Hawaii was now moving in the world of famous people.
11. So, if Obama's short bio was printed over and over during a 17 year period, it would be ridiculous for anyone to believe that a relatively unknown Obama from Hawaii didn't pick it up and stare at it many times over that 17 year period in order to reassure himself that he wasn't dreaming and that he was really sharing the same world as famous people who he heard about when he was growing up in Hawaii.
12. It would also be ridiculous for anyone to believe that Obama never had the chance over that 17 year period to correct any "mistakes" that he found in the short bio,especially after he became later became famous when his books became best-sellers.
13. So, again, isn't it reasonable to expect that Obama saw the "Born in Kenya" "mistake" in the bio many times over a long 17 year period, because, like most of us, he enjoyed seeing his name and picture in print?
14. And isn't it reasonable to believe that Obama had many chances over those 17 years to correct the "mistake" so that it would now read "born in Hawaii" but he purposely did nothing about it? Is the Pope Catholic?
And do you find anything fishy about the state of Hawaii only releasing a “verification” of Obama’s birth record after playing a game with the Arizona Secretary of State and utilizing a statute that was amended in 2010 rather than issue an abbreviated birth certificate as is permitted under departmental rules??
Yes, indeed. Are we as a nation “Compromised”?
Was he simply trying to earn “street cred”
I sorta believe that as well. He was trying to sell a book. But the question that keeps nagging me is why did he spend so much money hiding his other credentials?
He is definitely hiding something and it is just astounding that the press will not go after the story.
Here’s an excellent list that TheBigJ put together and I saved from an earlier thread:
To: Roscoe Karns
THE WHOLE SHE-BANG BANG:
Senator Obama greeted by thousands in rural Kenya campaigning for sharia law devotee and marxist Raila Odinga, August 2006
51 seconds in:
I am so proud to come back home ..
Michelle Obama speaks at the LGBT delegate luncheon on August 26, 2008
40 seconds in:
...when we took our trip to Africa and visited his home country, in Kenya...
....Obama a Kenyan, a black man...
At Tampa, FL fundraiser Dec 2007
2:00 minute mark:
Obamas Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: Born in Kenya
Promotional booklet produced in 1991 by Barack Obamas then-literary agency, Acton & Dystel, which touts Obama as born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii.
While on a plane, returning from Africa in 2006, Obama stated to Lynn Sweet
Obamas next big international journey will be in 2007hes looking at China, India and Indonesia, ``where ironically I actually have more of a childhood than I do in Kenya.
James Orengo Kenyan Minister of Lands, (Dept of Interior) Kenya Obama born here.
March 25, 2010 Kenya National Assembly Official Report, Page 31 During debate over the draft of a new Kenyan constitution, he told parliament:
If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation, Orengo posited, how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the president of America?
KENYAN BORN OBAMA ALL SET FOR SENATE former article:
AllAfrica.com Kampala Ugandans have formed a group to mobilise support for Kenyan-born Senator...
SECURITY CONCERNS FOR TOURISM AS SENATOR OBAMA JETS INTO KENYA
As Kenyan born US Senator Barack Obama (13th headline down)
More than 50 schools in Kisumu, Kenya, about 30 miles from where Obama was born
STORIES OUT OF AFRICA:
We witnessed last year a senator with his origins from east Africa, Barack Abdallah Husein Obama, becoming the first black US president ..
THE NIGERIAN OBSERVER:
Kenyan born U.S. Senator exploring ways of helping home province:
The Nov. 5, 2008, Kenya Parliament Official Report,
excerpts from the Kenyan Parliament from Nov. 5, 2008, on the morning after Barack Obama win of the US Presidential election on Tues, Nov. 4:
Adjournment so that we could also continue
the celebrations of having a Kenyan ruling the
USA? I humbly request!
...so that we can set up a committee to organize
for his homecoming.
...the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil
of this country.
Kenyan Ambassador admits Obama born in Kenya
One more quick question, president elect Obamas birthplace over in Kenya is that going to be a national spot to go visit where he was born?
It is already an attraction. His paternal grandmother is still alive.
But his birth place, they will put up a marker there?
It will depend on the government. It is already well known.
Sarah Obama Reveals Barack Obama Was Born In Kenya
20 posted on Friday, 18 May 2012 10:02:02 AM by TheBigJ
We cannot witness our own birth. We only know what we have been told.
Executive Order 13489 of January 21, 2009
The bio that ends up on the book jacket? This was promotional material. The book may not have been written yet, for all I know. The employee may have guessed based on what she thought she remembered.
I guess Obama could have been another possible the source of the error, making different claims at different times. He could even have written the part about his father being Kenyan Finance Minister.
I got into the discussion just to say that if there was an error made, it was most likely to involve material that was already known to the employee about Hawaii and Kenya, rather than pull in something new about Obama being born in Sweden or France. In other words, if she did make a mistake, this was the logical one to make.
Obama himself was most certainly the source of the “error.” Other authors with the same agency have come forward and stated that this firm requests the bios from their authors. Also, the bio went through multiple revisions between ‘91 and ‘07! Are we to believe that, in all these revisions, Obama himself had no input and that never once in those sixteen years did he actually read one of these bios?
The exceedingly inconvenient fact for Team Obama is that he either lied about a Kenyan birth, or lied about a Hawaiian birth. Either way, he’s a giant liar, and of all things, about his own nativity! Obama is the original Birther.
Seen this? Another Corsi interview:
Another item I discovered awhile back, reflecting how Zero mentioned his Kenya story as Senator:
In the popular vid on youtube several years ago
a poster and Zero kool-aider DrWizardMan,
(Now deleted profile)
stated deep in the long comments:
I met Obama in Chicago in the early 2000s, while he was still a state senator. I was discussing some issues and mentioned my sisters husband is from a native Kenyan; he laughed and mentioned how he was born there, as well.
I dont dislike this man, in fact hes doing a pretty good job as president, but its pretty obvious hes lying about his birth certificate.
Thanks for the ping!
Well, we already know he is quite unprincipled. Either Romney or the Kenyan- the prospects are bleak. Either way we get socialized medicine. Romney has already said he means to keep the “good” stuff And he does have a record on the subject. Socalized medicine locks the chains on the society and ends the possibility of avoiding full blown socialism for a while longer.
Does all tht legalese eventually run out? At some point does the executive privilege expire?
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Think about what it took to print something back in 91. Computers weren’t widely used in offices for regular typing. That pamphlet had to be gone over a hundred times before it went to the print shop.
Does anybody here have vaccination forms? I don’t. I went to Catholic school and we didn’t have any vaccination forms. I am about the same age as Obama.
I have vaccination forms. I lived and traveled abroad as a child and I have a yellow cardboard record of all my shots. I even received smallpox vaccinations twice!
Did you travel all over the world (without a U.S. passport) most of your life?
You're forgetting pregnant girls in the 1960's always went away, usually to visit an 'aunt' to have the baby. Plus, there are no pictures of Stanley pregnant and she showed up in Seattle shortly after he was born. My razor says she went to Vancouver to have the baby.
Obama was born in Hawaii and the 2-parent argument still has no legal basis regardless of how appealing it might be.
I have changed my opinion on Obama having ever claimed to be born in Kenya (or at the least having encouraged the idea) because an actual piece of evidence has been produced that he has plausibly done this.
Actual evidence that the claim had to have come have come from BHO or at least been known to him. Not conjecture, or implausible speculation, or wild assumptions that require ever expanding conspiracies.
This might have actually gone somewhere if Birthers hadnt so thoroughly and completely poisoned the well with their stupidity.