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Constitutional Work Around: New Jersey Legislators Move To Ban Ammunition
SHTF Plan ^ | 1-30-2012 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 01/30/2012 1:45:21 PM PST by blam

Constitutional Work Around: New Jersey Legislators Move To Ban Ammunition

Mac Slavo
January 30th, 2012

While the second amendment protects our right to bear arms, some anti-gun advocates think they may have found a loophole. This afternoon the New Jersey Assembly Law and Public Safety Committee is set to consider two bills (Assembly Bill 588 and Assembly Bill 1013) that would essentially ban all handgun ammunition in the state, as well as some (or potentially all) rifle ammunition.

Sponsored by Assemblyman L. Grace Spencer (D-29), A588 is cleverly disguised as police safety legislation aimed at armor piercing ammunition (which is already prohibited under federal and state law). The measure actually opens the door to a sweeping ammunition ban by an unelected public official by executive fiat.
Common hunting, target, and self-defense ammunition would be subject to ban, along with BB’s, airgun pellets, and non-metallic ammunition like plastic airsoft pellets, if the Attorney General decides that they pose a threat to the safety and well being of law enforcement.

Although the bill only mentions handgun ammunition, it is in fact not limited to handgun ammunition, and would apply to all rifle ammunition for which a handgun is ever made. As an increasing number of gun manufacturers make handgun models that shoot rifle caliber ammunition, the line between “handgun” vs. “rifle” ammunition has become blurred, and the New Jersey State Police have already begun treating rifle ammunition in this category as if it were handgun ammunition for regulatory purposes. As long as a handgun exists that shoots a particular caliber of rifle ammunition, New Jersey treats that ammunition as if it were handgun ammunition.

Source: NRA Institute For Legislative Action

As Aaron Dykes of Infowars points out, the bills themselves would not outlaw the ammunition, but they “would enable the state’s Attorney General to instate a de facto restriction of the Second Amendment via executive fiat.”

In essence, if the Attorney General determines that a particular type of ammunition poses a threat to the police or government officials, that ammunition could be completely banned under this new legislation.

The goal, of course, is to render the Second Amendment impotent – the ultimate endgame of those who would brink the darkness of tyranny over our great nation.

By all accounts, as SGT Report highlights in their latest micro-documentary (available below), the government has rebelled against the people, and they are working feverishly to eliminate, one by one, each of the Constitutional protections that have ensured the peoples’ right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for over two centuries.

I want to make the case that there has been a rebellion.

This government has rebelled against the Constitution and against the citizens of the United States. The invasion of the public safety has been made by the representatives of the people.

the public safety could not be more at risk now, that the NDAA containing S1867, is law. The signing of NDAA was the crossing of the Rubicon. The government has now pushed farther than could have been imagined even 12 or 18 short months ago.

I have long believed that the final straw will come when this government attempts to ban guns or ammunition, or declare a confiscation of precious metals.

They will keep pushing, as all tyrants do, until the people push back. This latest transgression of our freedoms may be limited to a single state, but if approved, would open the door to similar bans across the entire country.

As Alex Jones warns in a recent update, those who would make us slaves and strip us of our natural rights are doing so at an accelerated rate.

It’s really simple. We’re getting down to the wire here. Tyranny is out in the open. The destruction of our basic liberties, the overthrow of our republic and basic protections, and basic checks and balances, is in overdrive right now.

Four years ago, had someone told you that the government would take over major financial institutions, manufacturers, and insurance companies, or that they would legislate universal health mandates or indefinite detention of American citizens without trial, or that they would grope your children at public venues and transportation hubs, would you have believed them?

Most Americans would have balked at the very thought of such things.

Yet here we are. And the scary thing? They’re not finished yet. They won’t be; not until the Constitution of the United States is relegated to nothing more than a historical text in some museum rather than what it was meant to be – the fundamental law of the land.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: ammo; banglist; bloodoftyrants; constitution; corruption; cwii; democrats; donttreadonme; govtabuse; guns; liberalfascism; liberals; lping; newjersey; progressives; tyranny; waronliberty; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: TheWriterTX
I was sort of hoping that people like you would have a sense of humor--I guess that's too much to ask for a yankee (I lived in NJ for 4 years back in the late 60's--and loved it).

The Yankees we object to are the ones who come to Texas, attracted by our economy and our jobs and they immediately begin trying to turn us into the disaster areas they just left. Thank-you very much folks, but you ruined your own states, leave ours alone.
61 posted on 01/31/2012 5:48:56 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: Durus

“The civil war was fought for the wrong reasons.”

I disagree; the logic was sound. The South couldn’t co-exist with a North that had increasingly left the tenets of the founders by the wayside. The South was living the revolution, against blue coats that had replaced red coats; they much more resembled the country founded in 1776 than their Northern counterparts.

To this day those differences are evident.


62 posted on 01/31/2012 12:13:39 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2
There wasn't any logic, the Democrat slave owners used any and all excuses to fight for slavery against the party formed to fight against slavery (Republicans). Slavery is not a states power issue any more than the 2nd amendment is a states power issue.

The difference between Republicans (at least the ones that care about the constitution) and Democrats still evident yes, but I'm not sure which side you are on.

63 posted on 01/31/2012 2:01:50 PM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Durus

Slavery was a secondary issue in the war; the Southern states rightly believed that the power of government rested with the individual states, while the Northern states believed the power should rest in the Federal government.

Most southerners couldn’t afford a single slave, and 2 slave states fought for the Union; slavery was not the driving force of the war. Lincoln himself said if he could preserve the union without emancipating the slaves he would; there were obviously deeper issues involved.

Apparently for the first 70 years of this country’s existence, slavery was compatible with the Constitution; only when the Northern states had freed their slaves was it a problem. I live in NJ, and at one time we were a slave state as well.


64 posted on 01/31/2012 2:21:07 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: blam

This is being attempted in California, also.
Banned .50 BMG (felony to have it),
Attempted banning any ammo with lead,
attempted banning mail order ammo,
attempted banning any ammo capable of penetrating “bullet proof vest”, etc,
attempted requiring any pistol calibre sale require signature and declaration.


65 posted on 02/02/2012 12:32:14 AM PST by XHogPilot (I fear for our US Constitution and the nation of citizens it protects.)
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