Skip to comments.ATF gunwalking scandal: Second agent speaks out (Other Agencies knew about it!)
Posted on 03/21/2011 3:54:11 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA
(CBS News) WASHINGTON - South of El Paso on Mexico's side of the border lies Juarez - the most dangerous city in the world. CBS News investigative correspondent Sharyl Attkisson reports ATF Special Agent Rene Jaquez has been stationed there for the past year trying to keep U.S. guns from being trafficked into Mexico.
"That's what we do as an agency," Jaquez said. "ATF's primary mission is to make sure that we curtail gun trafficking."
That's why Jaquez tells CBS News he was so alarmed to hear his own agency may have done the opposite: encouraged U.S. gun dealers to sell to suspected traffickers for Mexico's drug cartels. Apparently, ATF hoped that letting weapons "walk" onto the street - to see where they'd end up - would help them take down a cartel.
But ATF wasn't working alone on the case known as "Fast and Furious." Documents show ATF had conference calls with DHS (Homeland Security,) "USMS" (U.S. Marshals,) and DEA. An "ICE" or Customs agent was on ATF's Fast and Furious team. They were advised by an "AUSA" or Assistant U.S. Attorney under the Justice Department.
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Heads need to roll for this!
Disband the ATF!
What did he know and when did he know it?
Note: The agent does not say "illegal" gun trafficking. Paging Senator Grassley. Please pick up the white courtesy phone.
OK can the grown ups take charge please and save our nations.
A false flag op. to strip Americans of their 2nd amendment rights has blown up in their faces!
Well, it depends upon what the goal of this action was.
If it was to follow guns and bust the gun runners, they failed.
If it was to add some artificial credence to their asinine assertion that the drug cartels got 90% of their guns from the U.S., they failed. It just took a while for the truth to out. Amazing this is from CBS.
“Disband the ATF!”
And the DHS and the DEA and the ......
After all, running with a gun, just like running with scissors, is dangerous.
Really now! Is anyone genuinely surprised?
Their counterparts on the Mexico side are aiding the cartels in moving the drugs.
Its called job security, you want to make director you need more staff and resources under you.
For anyone who knows...do cartridges fired from an AK-47 display a distinctive impression that can be traced back to the firing gun? Like a pistol?
The word came down from the top. What did Obama know and when did he know it.
Why don’t police departments in all the major cities sell guns undercover to suspected traffickers to find out where the guns walk? That way they can get all the guns off the street once someone has been murdered!!! What a terrific idea!!!!
I bet they’ve done this with drugs as well.
Why was this removed from Breaking News?
If collusion among govt departments in illegal acts does not count as Breaking News, then what does?
And this just came out today.
This VILE Admin makes the Clintons look like pikers. Evil to the core!
Ol' Master Holder and his boss the Obama, both said we're doin' a Helluva job
Anybody want to add more lyrics?
Some days I think the entire federal government is a corrupt cesspool. Other days I am sure.
to answer your question, to a degree, yes. A case fired from a gun leaves a “fingerprint” allowing a match to be attained. However, unlike real fingerprints, the more a gun is used, the more the chamber, firing pin impression and rifling change.
This means that the first bullet fired from a gun will have different markings due to wear than say the 500th or 5000th round. The cases will bear different markings as well.
If the barrel is lapped, the markings on the lands and grooves will show a different pattern than before the lapping.
Firearms forensics is a fickle science depending upon the suspect weapon having not been modified or shot all to hell before recovery.
As I read the article I had the strangest feeling that this gun-walking was brought about by a mole embedded in the ATF or DOJ. Does anybody else smell a rat?
It clearly goes to the top.
typical Lib anti-Gun PR scam that killed people. As usual
Where does the world go when the largest government on the planet becomes the terrorist?
This is a link on the same page as the linked story.
To a gun show.
So the ATF is full of criminals and ran guns to mexican criminals. Where is nobama, the great leader, and holder, the race-baiting racist attorney general? Are they investigating this and prosecuting these criminals?
He's in Rio. Hope he stays there!
Good question. This is the last stand for freedom on earth - are y'all ready to do what's necessary to keep it?
0bungle is in Chile today. He'll be hot tamale.
Let’s NOT lose sight of the fact that all these other agencies KNEW about this, THEREFORE AS THOSE AGENCIES ARE CABINET LEVEL THE WHOLE DAMNED OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WAS IN ON IT.
Blacker than night were the eyes of Obama
Wicked and evil while casting a spell
His hate was deep for this second amendment
With it in place, his grand plan would not swell.
When did all this start? Did it start under ocokesnorter?
Has anyone come to the same opinion as I have that the departments of Justice and Homeland Security and all associated bureaus have been transformed into organized crime enterprises. Gun running, judges bought and sold, prosecutors that don’t prosecute but do persecute, border security that allows and profits from drug running, sex rings, etc. Wonder how much of the payoffs are going to Zeros re-election campaign.
“If it was to follow guns and bust the gun runners, they failed.”
I don’t see how allowing the guns into Mexico, then waiting to see if they turn up a crime scenes, could ever reasonably be expected to “bust the gun runners”. I am willing to be convinced, though. Please explain just how this would work?
This thing still has legs. Now it needs to run over some “senior officials”. Take your pick. It’s open season as far as I can see.
That’s what I’m wondering. We will probably hear it twas “BUSHES FAULT”
The ATF should have walked Cuban cigars instead.
The government is criminals...
I have no idea how this would work. No idea. I lean towards the other option, that they were trying to shut down legal sales by claiming the cabals were getting their weapons on the north side of the tracks.
You forgot the storm troopers, AKA UNIONS.
That's a given: if the ATF is involved, and it's a big splashy, headline-grabbing case, it's a given that the real intent is to demonize lawful gun owners.
“When did all this start?” ===
Now there is a question posed that needs an answer.
They were manufacturing evidence to support the notion that US gun shows and gun stores are supplying the weapons used in Mexico.
This is pathetic spin.
seems they assembled a team of rouge agents across numerous agencies...
see more of this coming under this czar 0bambi
Anything less would be simple treason, not just corruption.
The federal government is completely out of control. Corrupt and bloated, they serve only themselves and their ranks, together a slightly westernized version of the Politburo.
I place 90% of the blame on the conniving shills for communism known as the Democrat Party and 10% on the candy-assed, limp-wristed, cowardly Republicans collapsing onto their fainting couches every time the rat mouthpiece media barks at them.
...it's 1,969 miles?
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