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Arizona Sheriff’s News Conference No Place For Personal Political Opinion
Gulf1 - Straight Talk ^ | 1/9/2010 | Dr. Alan Bates

Posted on 01/09/2011 10:37:43 AM PST by ppaul

In the midst of a local tragedy committed by a young man with some type of mental derangement, the Democrat Sheriff of Pima County in Tuscon hosted a news conference which violated the code of conduct of such informational sessions by repeatedly injecting his personal political views and opinions rather than sticking to the facts of the case. His comments are an insult to upstanding law-abiding citizens who support Arizona’s immigration law and Americans who find the secular progressive destruction of our Constitution outrageous.

Every reasonable person knows the Arizona law was the consequence of willful failure of the Federal government to enforce federal immigration laws and secure our borders. For Sheriff Dupnik---a Democrat who publicly opposed that law in a letter to the Wall Street Journal---to suggest this horrible criminal act may have resulted from an increase in “vitriolic language and hate speech heard on radio and some other media outlets” is synonymous with labeling anyone who opposes and speaks out against corrupt government as similar to the individual responsible for the crime which occurred in Tuscon.

The lame street media will certainly make a big deal about the murderer’s motives in an attempt to label “We the People” as of the same ilk because we speak out and protest against those elected officials who actively seek to destroy the foundations of the United States of America by distorting and trampling our Constitution. No such connection can be made, but the secular progressives will hammer that home nonstop for weeks to come until some other tragedy occurs to divert their attention.

There is also no doubt there will be a huge liberal media uproar about second amendment rights which in their minds (plagued by liberal mental disorder) should be revoked because of such incidents. They will ignore the fact that not one crime has been committed with a firearm by a U.S. citizen who has a legal permit to carry. The murderer in the Arizona incident like others in the past apparently did not have legal permit to carry and on top of that showed obvious derangement to commit such a heinous act of mass murder. His actions have nothing to do with second amendment rights nor can his actions be blamed on published or verbal media content which condemns the willful destruction of America by liberal extremist America haters.

The Sheriff of Pima County has violated our expectation that he keep his personal secular progressive political views out of public presentations which should stay on point regarding details of the crime committed. May God’s hand be with those who lost their loved ones in this terrible tragedy and the recovery of the injured.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; bigbrother; firearms; giffords; guns; reichstagfire; secondamendment; sheriff
Dupnik is a dupa.
1 posted on 01/09/2011 10:37:47 AM PST by ppaul
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To: ppaul
Interesting how we have not heard a peep about the shooter's parents or family. Remember when Hinckley shot Reagan? Nothing but trash talk about the family. They were GOP and rich.... here... nothing. Wanna bet mom and dad are active Democrats??????
2 posted on 01/09/2011 10:40:03 AM PST by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: ppaul

You took the words out of my mouth.


3 posted on 01/09/2011 10:40:03 AM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: April Lexington

Government employees raising an only child to be gay. Very sad.


4 posted on 01/09/2011 10:41:50 AM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: ppaul

Sheriff Joe laughs at this schmuck.


5 posted on 01/09/2011 10:42:41 AM PST by princeofdarkness (The Obama Administration is circling the wagons. But the Truth Indians are using flaming arrows.)
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To: narses

BING BING BING! We have a winner! That ain’t going to be getting wide coverage in the MSM!


6 posted on 01/09/2011 10:45:09 AM PST by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: ppaul

Dupnik is a Rat-—enuf said


7 posted on 01/09/2011 10:45:30 AM PST by jesseam (Been there, done that)
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To: April Lexington

Mom works for the government.


8 posted on 01/09/2011 10:46:24 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: ppaul

Dupnick was just on live implied attacking conservative political comment AND 2nd amendment rights. Criticizing a measure before the legislature to allow college students to carry, said colleges should be run “by the college presidents”.

AND he revealed laughner was invited to a previous Gifford political event with the Congresswoman. Maybe the Sherrif is referrig to democrat “political hate speech” and “paranoia about how government operates”.


9 posted on 01/09/2011 10:46:40 AM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: ppaul

The local sheriff should pull his liberal head out of his rectum and read this article.

The local sheriff may be trying to blame Palin/Rush and other conservatives for his failure to do his job re this self identified potential terrorist. Like why/how did this nut case have a gun and get by with threatening to kill cops?

What was the relationship if any between the sheriff and the parents/mother of the killer if any.

Why haven’t we read one thing by the left wing mediots about the parents of this insane killer?

Below is an excellent article re the insane killer with a lot of personal quotes. No where did he profess any love/devotion for Palin/Rush or the Tea Party.

http://azdailysun.com/news/local/state-and-regional/article_663d67a8-0e82-569b-a2fe-46306174e1fe.html

Suspect in rampage called ‘very disturbed’

TIM STELLER Arizona Daily Star azdailysun.com

The man arrested for opening fire at a community meeting held by U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords Saturday — killing six people and injuring 13 others — disrupted classes at Pima Community College, tried to manipulate his dreams and posted rambling messages on the Internet.

The suspected shooter is Jared Lee Loughner, a 22-year-old who lives on the northwest side. He is mentally unstable and may have had an accomplice, Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said Saturday evening.

A former classmate of Loughner at Pima, from which he was suspended Sept. 29 for code-of-conduct violations, said he was “obviously very disturbed.”

“He disrupted class frequently with nonsensical outbursts,” said Lynda Sorenson, who took a math class with Loughner last summer at Pima Community College’s Northwest campus.

Dupnik said the suspected shooter has made death threats before and been contacted by law-enforcement officers. The threats weren’t against Giffords, Dupnik said.
Investigators are looking for a second person who may be an accomplice, Dupnik said. “We are not convinced he acted alone,” Dupnik said of the shooter. “We have photos,” he said, of a man in his 50s.

“There’s some reason to believe that (the shooter) came to this location with another individual. And there’s reason to believe the other individual would in some way be involved,” he said.

Loughner has several online accounts, which suggest he has spent most of his life on the northwest side: His MySpace profile says he attended Thornydale Elementary School, Tortolita Middle School and Mountain View High School.

As a middle school student, Loughner was “kind of an outcast,” said Shannin Macey, who said via e-mail she attended Tortolita and Mountain View with him.

In high school, Loughner was in jazz band and played the saxophone, but he dropped out in junior year, said Tommy Marriotti, who was a high-school friend of Loughner. At the time he dropped out, Loughner was having drug problems, Marriotti said, but he seemed to do well once he started taking classes at Pima.

Loughner attended Pima courses from summer 2005 until he withdrew in October after his suspension, the college said.

He tried to enlist in the Army in 2008 but was rejected, said First Sgt. Brian Homme, who oversees Army recruiting in Tucson. Loughner was sent to Phoenix to take a test and physical, but “he was found to be unqualified,” Homme said.

Loughner registered to vote for the first time in 2006, said Chris Roads, Pima County’s registrar of voters. He registered as an independent and last voted in the 2008 general election.

Sorenson, Loughner’s classmate at Pima, said he was asked to leave the pre-algebra class several times and eventually was barred from class.

Pima officials said in a news release that from February to September 2010, Loughner had five contacts with PCC police for classroom and library disruptions at Northwest and West campuses.

Another Pima classmate, Lydian Ali, said Loughner would frequently laugh aloud to himself during the advanced-poetry class they attended. Only about 16 people were in the class, so Loughner’s behavior stood out, Ali said.

“It almost seemed like he was on his own planet, because his comments would have nothing to do with what we were talking about,” Ali said.

Loughner’s online accounts contain some political comments but are dominated by bizarre discussions of his desire to establish a new currency and his disdain for what he considered the public’s low literacy rates. He also wrote threatening and despairing messages.

“WOW! I’m glad i didn’t kill myself. I’ll see you on National T.v.! This is foreshadow .... why doesn’t anyone talk to me? ..” he posted on MySpace Dec. 14.
On Dec. 13, he wrote: “I don’t feel good: I’m ready to kill a police officer! I can say it.”

In a posting on YouTube, Loughner wrote repeatedly about a new currency. “I’m thinking of creating a new currency,” he wrote. “Therefore, I’m thinking of a design for my new coins size, shape, color, material, and image to start a new money system.”

He also wrote repeatedly about literacy. In a message on YouTube, Loughner wrote: “The majority of people, who reside in District-8 are illiterate — hilarious. I don’t control your English grammar structure, but you control your English grammar structure.”

In a message posted on his MySpace account, titled “Goodbye friends,”Loughner said: “Dear friends...please don’t be mad at me. The literacy rate is below 5%. I haven’t talked to one person who is literate.” It was unclear when it was posted.

In a MySpace profile, Loughner said “My favorite interest was reading, and I studied grammar. Conscience dreams were a great study in college.” Conscious dreaming is trying to manipulate your dreams, an interest Loughner pursued, Marriotti said.

He lists among his favorite books “Mein Kampf” and “The Communist Manifesto”. But he also includes a broad variety of other titles, including: “Animal Farm,” “Brave New World,” “To Kill a Mockingbird,” and “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”.

In another YouTube message, Loughner said: “I know who’s listening: Government Officials, and the People. Nearly all the people, who don’t know this accurate information of a new currency, aren’t aware of mind control and brainwash methods. If I have my civil rights, then this message wouldn’t have happen.”

“In conclusion, my ambition - is for informing literate dreamers about a new currency; in a few days, you know I’m conscience dreaming! Thank you!”

In a YouTube video dated Dec. 15, titled “Introduction: Jared Loughner,” he describes himself as a U.S. military recruit who had applied to join the Army.

In the video, Loughner makes a rambling mention of “MEPS in Phoenix” an apparent reference to the Military Entrance Processing Station in the state capital that all Arizona recruits from every branch of service pass through before leaving for basic training.

“Every United States military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix is receiving one mini bible before the tests,” it said. “Jared Loughner is a United States military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix. Therefore, Jared Loughner is receiving one mini bible before the tests.

“I didn’t write a belief on my Army application and the recruiter wrote on the application: None.”

Sgt. Homme declined to say why Loughner was rejected, citing confidentiality laws.

Loughner has had at least two minor run-ins with police, online court records show.

In October 2007, Loughner was cited by the Pima County Sheriff’s Department for possession of drug paraphernalia, a charge that was dismissed in November 2007 when he completed a diversion program.

One year later, in October 2008, Loughner faced a “local charge” in Marana Municipal Court. That charge was also dismissed following the completion of a diversion program in March 2009.

Court records indicate the Marana case file is due to be purged in December 2013. It’s unclear what the exact charge was.

Grant Wiens, 22, attended Mountain View High School with Loughner, although they were not in the same grade. Wiens also took a class at Pima Community College with Loughner, where they occasionally talked, he said.

“He was a guy in high school who definitely had his opinions on stuff and didn’t seem to care what people thought of him,” Wiens said. “He did his own thing.”

Star reporters Carol Ann Alaimo, Alex Dalenberg, Fernanda Echavarri, Patrick Finley, Ernesto Portillo Jr. and Sarah Trotto contributed to this report.


10 posted on 01/09/2011 10:51:25 AM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: ppaul

When is the next election in that county? That sheriff needs to be voted out.


11 posted on 01/09/2011 10:51:40 AM PST by GeronL (How DARE you have an opinion!!)
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To: ppaul
Did anyone expect anything different from a liberal left Democratic jackas@. The Sheriff should be fired.
12 posted on 01/09/2011 10:54:08 AM PST by Logical me
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To: ppaul

My thought exactly!


13 posted on 01/09/2011 10:54:41 AM PST by truthkeeper ( God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy.)
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To: narses
Government employees raising an only child to be gay. Very sad.

But hardly surprising.

14 posted on 01/09/2011 10:56:53 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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The sheriff failed in his responsibility to protect the congresswoman from a deranged person who had previously come to the attention of his office. It is ludicrous that he seeks to divert attention from his own incompetence and dereliction of duty by blaming radio and the internet. The sheriff refuses to protect the citizens of Pima County from foreign people traffickers, kidnappers and drug smugglers. His failure to protect the Congresswoman is part of broader pattern of dereliction of sworn duty.
15 posted on 01/09/2011 10:57:29 AM PST by Godwin1
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To: buccaneer81

A lot like Columbine HS.


16 posted on 01/09/2011 10:58:10 AM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: April Lexington
Wanna bet mom and dad are active Democrats??????

No way I'm taking that bet.

I'm also not betting that they aren't fewer than 6 degrees of separation from a Democrat/gay power structure.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

17 posted on 01/09/2011 11:01:01 AM PST by The Comedian (Puzzling puzzle pieces precisely proliferating panoramically.)
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To: ppaul

It’s like Democrats can’t do their job professionally. Everything seems like a political calculation and opportunity to eliminate their opposition by any means.

If he going to send out the SWAT team to raid the local Tea Party leader’s home now?

Just the facts ma’am. Please.


18 posted on 01/09/2011 11:01:12 AM PST by Free Vulcan (The cult of Islam must be eradicated by any means necessary.)
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To: ppaul

The dems could pull off a “Wellstone Memorial” moment here and go too far if they are not careful. The public are susceptible to subtle propaganda, e.g. CNN, but can’t stand blatant in your face propaganda at the wrong inappropriate occasion.


19 posted on 01/09/2011 11:01:50 AM PST by plain talk
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To: narses

Pretty disgusting to be blaming the parents without having any idea about the situation. Chances are they are in shock and heartsick.


20 posted on 01/09/2011 11:02:46 AM PST by Raebie
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To: narses
A lot like Columbine HS.

No tea party'ers then, though.

21 posted on 01/09/2011 11:04:42 AM PST by ppaul
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To: Raebie

They raised the kid, they knew he had mental problems, they have to be given the primary external responsibility.


22 posted on 01/09/2011 11:04:57 AM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: narses

He was a 22 year old grown man. You blaming his parents is no better than the libs blaming Palin. He fired the gun. Period, end of story.


23 posted on 01/09/2011 11:10:11 AM PST by Raebie
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To: ppaul

Does Arizona have laws in place for impeachment of officials who are not doing their duties???


24 posted on 01/09/2011 11:10:11 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ppaul

Where did this Dupa get his (I think) 9MM? I keep searching FR because this is where the real info is but I haven’t seen references to his pistol.

I was figuring since the Military turned him down, he must be on somebody’s radar about firearms but heck, at 22, he hasn’t been around long enough to experience real life much. You know, pay taxes, bills, big ticket items, mortgages, etc., etc., but he knows that everyone else is stupid other than himself.

Anybody? Thx!


25 posted on 01/09/2011 11:12:44 AM PST by brushcop (CW4 Matthew Lourey CW2 Joshua Scott/ Kiowa pilots KIA Iraq '05. Thank you for our son's life.)
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To: ppaul

It’s unfortunate that Sheriff Joe isn’t running the show, instead of Sheriff Combover.


26 posted on 01/09/2011 11:12:53 AM PST by Gator113 (I'm voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: plain talk
The dems could pull off a "Wellstone Memorial" moment here...

More from the Truth is Stranger than Fiction file:

Unbelievable: Democrat Group Using Giffords Shooting for Fundraiser

27 posted on 01/09/2011 11:14:13 AM PST by ppaul
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To: Raebie

Nope. He was a 22 year old mental case living at home. His parents had formal knowledge of his problems. They supported him, they raised him and they failed him. As did the moronic Pima County Sheriff who knew he was a danger to himself and others and did nothing.


28 posted on 01/09/2011 11:14:22 AM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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Not really “unbelievable” though, is it?


29 posted on 01/09/2011 11:15:36 AM PST by ppaul
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To: narses

“Government employees raising an only child to be gay. Very sad.”

Where did you come up with that one?


30 posted on 01/09/2011 11:19:43 AM PST by Raebie
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To: Raebie

NPR of all places I think. Mom works for Pima County. See http://upintelligence.wordpress.com/2011/01/08/jared-loughner-secrets/ for more about the declared sex life of the only, lonely nutcase killer.


31 posted on 01/09/2011 11:22:19 AM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: narses

I am also tired of crazy people getting a pass from the courts when they are convicted of wrongdoing.
All the time I read about crazy people who deliberately stop taking their meds because they do not like the side effects, or feel better. They then go really crazy, and commit a crime.
I think that if you are diagnosed as a schizophrenic, and decide to stop taking your medication,and commit a horrific crime- then that is premeditated. You are then subject to the death penalty.
No different than an alcoholic who decides to drink, and kills someone while driving drunk.


32 posted on 01/09/2011 11:26:53 AM PST by kaila
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To: narses

Oh, I didn’t know we knew that he was Blue Boy. When did we get proof of that?


33 posted on 01/09/2011 11:32:33 AM PST by Raebie
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To: Raebie

No - but there is a strong correlation of data that suggest that he is. More - his FB profile and other data shows he self-described as gay. No question - zip - nada - that he and his parents were told he needed to get a mental health eval before returning to college. That he could legally buy a gun after the problems he had is disturbing.


34 posted on 01/09/2011 11:35:52 AM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: narses

I thought Blue Boy was much older than 22. And those FB pages have been debunked.


35 posted on 01/09/2011 11:38:50 AM PST by Raebie
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To: ppaul
Dupnik spews actual vitriol about other people's alleged vitriol.
36 posted on 01/09/2011 11:40:04 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (DEFCON I ALERT: The federal cancer has metastasized. All personnel report to their battle stations.)
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To: ppaul

Dupnik handled himself well right up until he admitted his personal policies in selective enforcement of the laws of his county and state do best when his and only his interpretation is applied.


37 posted on 01/09/2011 11:40:23 AM PST by Cyman
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To: Raebie

There have been a number of fake FB pages, but the one that was his (and is now gone) he clearly self-id’d as “gay”.

Again, no question he was a nutcase. None. His parents knew that. They bear a great deal of responsibility for this.


38 posted on 01/09/2011 11:41:29 AM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: ppaul
Arizona Sheriff’s News Conference No Place For Personal Political Opinion

This person has serious mental issues, I think. After one instance of putting his foot n his mouth HE DID IT AGAIN at the FBI news conference in Tucson; A news bimbette baited him, and off he went again opening his mouth without putting brain in gear...

What's that definition of insanity again?

Totally unprofessional; but we already knew that.

39 posted on 01/09/2011 11:54:49 AM PST by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: ppaul
When is this overfed Barney Fife up for re-election?

That's one race it would be fun to support ---- for whoever is running against him!

40 posted on 01/09/2011 11:56:14 AM PST by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: Raebie
He was a 22 year old grown man. You blaming his parents is no better than the libs blaming Palin. He fired the gun. Period, end of story.

He was living with Mommy.
End of story.

And Obamacare is doing its best to make sure he STAYS with mommy until he's 26.
It's for the chilrun, you know.

41 posted on 01/09/2011 12:07:29 PM PST by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: ppaul

Sheriff Dupa should be immediately suspended for unprofessionalism during an active investigation.


42 posted on 01/09/2011 12:08:43 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Happy 112th!)
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To: narses

BTW, regarding the Sheriff’s thoughts regarding an accomplice, according to Aaron Klein (”Aaron Klein Investigative Radio” on WABC), the investigators identified the person of interest, and ruled out any connection. So it looks like Jared the Disturbed did work alone on his kill spree.

So much for Sheriff Dupa’s elegibility for induction into the Vidoc Society.


43 posted on 01/09/2011 12:27:52 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Rep. Steve King - 5th Iowa - is my current heartthrob.)
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To: ppaul

. . . No Place For Personal Political Opinion

(Except for the Sheriff's, of course)

44 posted on 01/09/2011 12:30:28 PM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: GeronL

When the sheriff started rambling about “talk radio” I was kinda shocked. Senile. Then, I heard he was close friends with some of the victims, so I’ll cut him some slack. He’s just upset about these tragic events.

But the Ft Hood killer was instantly dismissed as a “one off,” while the Tea Party was immediately charged with influencing this sick individual. Best shut down all conservative commentary (read any criticisms of govt policy), just to be on the safe side. Meanwhile, leftist protests, screaming, marching & violence at global economic conferences or during labor contract negotiations may continue, and are practically equivalent to vital “free speech” expressions, really....


45 posted on 01/09/2011 3:12:44 PM PST by 4Liberty ( How do you spell "moral hazard"?: $ 19, 0 0 0, 0 0 0, 0 0 0, 0 0 0.)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

Sheriff Dupa

46 posted on 01/10/2011 3:40:30 AM PST by ppaul
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