No way I'm taking that bet.
I'm also not betting that they aren't fewer than 6 degrees of separation from a Democrat/gay power structure.
Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.
Posted on 01/09/2011 10:37:43 AM PST by ppaul
In the midst of a local tragedy committed by a young man with some type of mental derangement, the Democrat Sheriff of Pima County in Tuscon hosted a news conference which violated the code of conduct of such informational sessions by repeatedly injecting his personal political views and opinions rather than sticking to the facts of the case. His comments are an insult to upstanding law-abiding citizens who support Arizona’s immigration law and Americans who find the secular progressive destruction of our Constitution outrageous.
Every reasonable person knows the Arizona law was the consequence of willful failure of the Federal government to enforce federal immigration laws and secure our borders. For Sheriff Dupnik---a Democrat who publicly opposed that law in a letter to the Wall Street Journal---to suggest this horrible criminal act may have resulted from an increase in “vitriolic language and hate speech heard on radio and some other media outlets” is synonymous with labeling anyone who opposes and speaks out against corrupt government as similar to the individual responsible for the crime which occurred in Tuscon.
The lame street media will certainly make a big deal about the murderer’s motives in an attempt to label “We the People” as of the same ilk because we speak out and protest against those elected officials who actively seek to destroy the foundations of the United States of America by distorting and trampling our Constitution. No such connection can be made, but the secular progressives will hammer that home nonstop for weeks to come until some other tragedy occurs to divert their attention.
There is also no doubt there will be a huge liberal media uproar about second amendment rights which in their minds (plagued by liberal mental disorder) should be revoked because of such incidents. They will ignore the fact that not one crime has been committed with a firearm by a U.S. citizen who has a legal permit to carry. The murderer in the Arizona incident like others in the past apparently did not have legal permit to carry and on top of that showed obvious derangement to commit such a heinous act of mass murder. His actions have nothing to do with second amendment rights nor can his actions be blamed on published or verbal media content which condemns the willful destruction of America by liberal extremist America haters.
The Sheriff of Pima County has violated our expectation that he keep his personal secular progressive political views out of public presentations which should stay on point regarding details of the crime committed. May God’s hand be with those who lost their loved ones in this terrible tragedy and the recovery of the injured.
You took the words out of my mouth.
Government employees raising an only child to be gay. Very sad.
Sheriff Joe laughs at this schmuck.
BING BING BING! We have a winner! That ain’t going to be getting wide coverage in the MSM!
Dupnik is a Rat-—enuf said
Mom works for the government.
Dupnick was just on live implied attacking conservative political comment AND 2nd amendment rights. Criticizing a measure before the legislature to allow college students to carry, said colleges should be run “by the college presidents”.
AND he revealed laughner was invited to a previous Gifford political event with the Congresswoman. Maybe the Sherrif is referrig to democrat “political hate speech” and “paranoia about how government operates”.
The local sheriff should pull his liberal head out of his rectum and read this article.
The local sheriff may be trying to blame Palin/Rush and other conservatives for his failure to do his job re this self identified potential terrorist. Like why/how did this nut case have a gun and get by with threatening to kill cops?
What was the relationship if any between the sheriff and the parents/mother of the killer if any.
Why haven’t we read one thing by the left wing mediots about the parents of this insane killer?
Below is an excellent article re the insane killer with a lot of personal quotes. No where did he profess any love/devotion for Palin/Rush or the Tea Party.
Suspect in rampage called ‘very disturbed’
TIM STELLER Arizona Daily Star azdailysun.com
The man arrested for opening fire at a community meeting held by U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords Saturday — killing six people and injuring 13 others — disrupted classes at Pima Community College, tried to manipulate his dreams and posted rambling messages on the Internet.
The suspected shooter is Jared Lee Loughner, a 22-year-old who lives on the northwest side. He is mentally unstable and may have had an accomplice, Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said Saturday evening.
A former classmate of Loughner at Pima, from which he was suspended Sept. 29 for code-of-conduct violations, said he was “obviously very disturbed.”
“He disrupted class frequently with nonsensical outbursts,” said Lynda Sorenson, who took a math class with Loughner last summer at Pima Community College’s Northwest campus.
Dupnik said the suspected shooter has made death threats before and been contacted by law-enforcement officers. The threats weren’t against Giffords, Dupnik said.
Investigators are looking for a second person who may be an accomplice, Dupnik said. “We are not convinced he acted alone,” Dupnik said of the shooter. “We have photos,” he said, of a man in his 50s.
“There’s some reason to believe that (the shooter) came to this location with another individual. And there’s reason to believe the other individual would in some way be involved,” he said.
Loughner has several online accounts, which suggest he has spent most of his life on the northwest side: His MySpace profile says he attended Thornydale Elementary School, Tortolita Middle School and Mountain View High School.
As a middle school student, Loughner was “kind of an outcast,” said Shannin Macey, who said via e-mail she attended Tortolita and Mountain View with him.
In high school, Loughner was in jazz band and played the saxophone, but he dropped out in junior year, said Tommy Marriotti, who was a high-school friend of Loughner. At the time he dropped out, Loughner was having drug problems, Marriotti said, but he seemed to do well once he started taking classes at Pima.
Loughner attended Pima courses from summer 2005 until he withdrew in October after his suspension, the college said.
He tried to enlist in the Army in 2008 but was rejected, said First Sgt. Brian Homme, who oversees Army recruiting in Tucson. Loughner was sent to Phoenix to take a test and physical, but “he was found to be unqualified,” Homme said.
Loughner registered to vote for the first time in 2006, said Chris Roads, Pima County’s registrar of voters. He registered as an independent and last voted in the 2008 general election.
Sorenson, Loughner’s classmate at Pima, said he was asked to leave the pre-algebra class several times and eventually was barred from class.
Pima officials said in a news release that from February to September 2010, Loughner had five contacts with PCC police for classroom and library disruptions at Northwest and West campuses.
Another Pima classmate, Lydian Ali, said Loughner would frequently laugh aloud to himself during the advanced-poetry class they attended. Only about 16 people were in the class, so Loughner’s behavior stood out, Ali said.
“It almost seemed like he was on his own planet, because his comments would have nothing to do with what we were talking about,” Ali said.
Loughner’s online accounts contain some political comments but are dominated by bizarre discussions of his desire to establish a new currency and his disdain for what he considered the public’s low literacy rates. He also wrote threatening and despairing messages.
“WOW! I’m glad i didn’t kill myself. I’ll see you on National T.v.! This is foreshadow .... why doesn’t anyone talk to me? ..” he posted on MySpace Dec. 14.
On Dec. 13, he wrote: “I don’t feel good: I’m ready to kill a police officer! I can say it.”
In a posting on YouTube, Loughner wrote repeatedly about a new currency. “I’m thinking of creating a new currency,” he wrote. “Therefore, I’m thinking of a design for my new coins size, shape, color, material, and image to start a new money system.”
He also wrote repeatedly about literacy. In a message on YouTube, Loughner wrote: “The majority of people, who reside in District-8 are illiterate — hilarious. I don’t control your English grammar structure, but you control your English grammar structure.”
In a message posted on his MySpace account, titled “Goodbye friends,”Loughner said: “Dear friends...please don’t be mad at me. The literacy rate is below 5%. I haven’t talked to one person who is literate.” It was unclear when it was posted.
In a MySpace profile, Loughner said “My favorite interest was reading, and I studied grammar. Conscience dreams were a great study in college.” Conscious dreaming is trying to manipulate your dreams, an interest Loughner pursued, Marriotti said.
He lists among his favorite books “Mein Kampf” and “The Communist Manifesto”. But he also includes a broad variety of other titles, including: “Animal Farm,” “Brave New World,” “To Kill a Mockingbird,” and “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”.
In another YouTube message, Loughner said: “I know who’s listening: Government Officials, and the People. Nearly all the people, who don’t know this accurate information of a new currency, aren’t aware of mind control and brainwash methods. If I have my civil rights, then this message wouldn’t have happen.”
“In conclusion, my ambition - is for informing literate dreamers about a new currency; in a few days, you know I’m conscience dreaming! Thank you!”
In a YouTube video dated Dec. 15, titled “Introduction: Jared Loughner,” he describes himself as a U.S. military recruit who had applied to join the Army.
In the video, Loughner makes a rambling mention of “MEPS in Phoenix” an apparent reference to the Military Entrance Processing Station in the state capital that all Arizona recruits from every branch of service pass through before leaving for basic training.
“Every United States military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix is receiving one mini bible before the tests,” it said. “Jared Loughner is a United States military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix. Therefore, Jared Loughner is receiving one mini bible before the tests.
“I didn’t write a belief on my Army application and the recruiter wrote on the application: None.”
Sgt. Homme declined to say why Loughner was rejected, citing confidentiality laws.
Loughner has had at least two minor run-ins with police, online court records show.
In October 2007, Loughner was cited by the Pima County Sheriff’s Department for possession of drug paraphernalia, a charge that was dismissed in November 2007 when he completed a diversion program.
One year later, in October 2008, Loughner faced a “local charge” in Marana Municipal Court. That charge was also dismissed following the completion of a diversion program in March 2009.
Court records indicate the Marana case file is due to be purged in December 2013. It’s unclear what the exact charge was.
Grant Wiens, 22, attended Mountain View High School with Loughner, although they were not in the same grade. Wiens also took a class at Pima Community College with Loughner, where they occasionally talked, he said.
“He was a guy in high school who definitely had his opinions on stuff and didn’t seem to care what people thought of him,” Wiens said. “He did his own thing.”
Star reporters Carol Ann Alaimo, Alex Dalenberg, Fernanda Echavarri, Patrick Finley, Ernesto Portillo Jr. and Sarah Trotto contributed to this report.
When is the next election in that county? That sheriff needs to be voted out.
My thought exactly!
But hardly surprising.
A lot like Columbine HS.
No way I'm taking that bet.
I'm also not betting that they aren't fewer than 6 degrees of separation from a Democrat/gay power structure.
It’s like Democrats can’t do their job professionally. Everything seems like a political calculation and opportunity to eliminate their opposition by any means.
If he going to send out the SWAT team to raid the local Tea Party leader’s home now?
Just the facts ma’am. Please.
The dems could pull off a “Wellstone Memorial” moment here and go too far if they are not careful. The public are susceptible to subtle propaganda, e.g. CNN, but can’t stand blatant in your face propaganda at the wrong inappropriate occasion.
Pretty disgusting to be blaming the parents without having any idea about the situation. Chances are they are in shock and heartsick.
No tea party'ers then, though.
They raised the kid, they knew he had mental problems, they have to be given the primary external responsibility.
He was a 22 year old grown man. You blaming his parents is no better than the libs blaming Palin. He fired the gun. Period, end of story.
Does Arizona have laws in place for impeachment of officials who are not doing their duties???
Where did this Dupa get his (I think) 9MM? I keep searching FR because this is where the real info is but I haven’t seen references to his pistol.
I was figuring since the Military turned him down, he must be on somebody’s radar about firearms but heck, at 22, he hasn’t been around long enough to experience real life much. You know, pay taxes, bills, big ticket items, mortgages, etc., etc., but he knows that everyone else is stupid other than himself.
Anybody? Thx!
It’s unfortunate that Sheriff Joe isn’t running the show, instead of Sheriff Combover.
More from the Truth is Stranger than Fiction file:
Unbelievable: Democrat Group Using Giffords Shooting for Fundraiser
Nope. He was a 22 year old mental case living at home. His parents had formal knowledge of his problems. They supported him, they raised him and they failed him. As did the moronic Pima County Sheriff who knew he was a danger to himself and others and did nothing.
Not really “unbelievable” though, is it?
“Government employees raising an only child to be gay. Very sad.”
Where did you come up with that one?
NPR of all places I think. Mom works for Pima County. See http://upintelligence.wordpress.com/2011/01/08/jared-loughner-secrets/ for more about the declared sex life of the only, lonely nutcase killer.
I am also tired of crazy people getting a pass from the courts when they are convicted of wrongdoing.
All the time I read about crazy people who deliberately stop taking their meds because they do not like the side effects, or feel better. They then go really crazy, and commit a crime.
I think that if you are diagnosed as a schizophrenic, and decide to stop taking your medication,and commit a horrific crime- then that is premeditated. You are then subject to the death penalty.
No different than an alcoholic who decides to drink, and kills someone while driving drunk.
Oh, I didn’t know we knew that he was Blue Boy. When did we get proof of that?
No - but there is a strong correlation of data that suggest that he is. More - his FB profile and other data shows he self-described as gay. No question - zip - nada - that he and his parents were told he needed to get a mental health eval before returning to college. That he could legally buy a gun after the problems he had is disturbing.
I thought Blue Boy was much older than 22. And those FB pages have been debunked.
Dupnik handled himself well right up until he admitted his personal policies in selective enforcement of the laws of his county and state do best when his and only his interpretation is applied.
There have been a number of fake FB pages, but the one that was his (and is now gone) he clearly self-id’d as “gay”.
Again, no question he was a nutcase. None. His parents knew that. They bear a great deal of responsibility for this.
This person has serious mental issues, I think. After one instance of putting his foot n his mouth HE DID IT AGAIN at the FBI news conference in Tucson; A news bimbette baited him, and off he went again opening his mouth without putting brain in gear...
What's that definition of insanity again?
Totally unprofessional; but we already knew that.
That's one race it would be fun to support ---- for whoever is running against him!
He was living with Mommy.
End of story.
And Obamacare is doing its best to make sure he STAYS with mommy until he's 26.
It's for the chilrun, you know.
Sheriff Dupa should be immediately suspended for unprofessionalism during an active investigation.
BTW, regarding the Sheriff’s thoughts regarding an accomplice, according to Aaron Klein (”Aaron Klein Investigative Radio” on WABC), the investigators identified the person of interest, and ruled out any connection. So it looks like Jared the Disturbed did work alone on his kill spree.
So much for Sheriff Dupa’s elegibility for induction into the Vidoc Society.
(Except for the Sheriff's, of course)
When the sheriff started rambling about “talk radio” I was kinda shocked. Senile. Then, I heard he was close friends with some of the victims, so I’ll cut him some slack. He’s just upset about these tragic events.
But the Ft Hood killer was instantly dismissed as a “one off,” while the Tea Party was immediately charged with influencing this sick individual. Best shut down all conservative commentary (read any criticisms of govt policy), just to be on the safe side. Meanwhile, leftist protests, screaming, marching & violence at global economic conferences or during labor contract negotiations may continue, and are practically equivalent to vital “free speech” expressions, really....
Sheriff Dupa
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