Posted on 10/22/2009 8:31:09 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
The British Broadcasting Corporation in England has deemed it necessary to try and absolve Darwinism from any responsibility for the Holocaust and the many other atrocities committed in the name of evolutionary progress ever since Darwin published his Origin of Species in 1859. To achieve this, BBC2 produced a TV “documentary” entitled Darwin’s Dangerous Idea,[1] written and presented by their journalist and political commentator Andrew Marr. This 3-part series...
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I am a first year medical student.
How many years have you been a first year medi-cal student?
About 2 months. The semester started in late august.
Nothing like the hard-leftist ADL to come to the rescue of the enemies of Western Civilization.
How Long Before the ADL Kicks Out All Its Jews?
http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=28721
Don’t bother posting to Gutless. He only responds to a very, very select flavor of Christians (the only variety that has it quite right, you see), so any post about people who aren’t Christians at all is probably beneath his notice and therefore of no interest to him.
If you truly believe that mankind was a special creation made in the image of God, why are you treating us like garbage?
Who’s us???
That is to say, anyone not toadying to your version of your religion whenever and where ever you demand obeisance.
It would appear that gumlegs is projecting what causes HIS legs to go all gummy onto his betters—read: the slightest danger, real (but almost always) imagined. Don’t worry gummy, no matter what anyone else says about you, I never expected you to be anything more than your usual fidgety, fearful, shadow-loving self.
Never let reality get in the way of your hallucinations.
Just wondering, what does your version of the New Testament say about how to treat others? I can't find anything in my version to support your treatment of others who may disagree with you.
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Troll zotting is my specialty.
DONT TREAD ON ME!
Thanks,
Jim
Thanks for keeping that message fresh. It seems you have to repeat it every so often, for those who think it has an expiration date.
Heh. Heh.
Talk about being the ultimate crybaby. Unfrigginbelieveable.
???? You mean like grandfather Erasmus Darwin's writings, or Lamarck's, or some of the ancient greeks for that matter? About the only significant thing original to Darwin IMO was his inclusion of Blythe's natural selection theory into the evolutionary paradigm. His grandfather had all the other key points down.
That quote, incidentally, does nothing to deny Hitler’s belief in evolutionism after his polytheistic creation event. He quite clearly believed in some ‘races’ being superior to others, and in competition between them and the destruction of the lesser by the greater in a great struggle as each evolved.
Well, that's your decision, not my desire.
"You look only to scripture (sola scriptura?) for guidance whereas I believe that Scripture AND the Holy Spirit guide us."
So, you think yourself qualified to pronounce what I believe and what I don't? Interesting. You actually have no idea what I believe. To say that I look only to Scripture is to deny that I interpret Scripture through the Holy Spirit; in complete agreement with Scripture. You are simply wrong.
What I believe is:
1 John 2:27 - "As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him."
and
2 Timothy 3:16-17 - "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."
Again, Scripture interprets Scripture through the Holy Spirit. Not, the Holy Spirit confirms man's desire to throw out those parts of God's Word that man doesn't like or understand. It appears that you are not very well grounded in Scripture. How then can you sit in judgment of it?
"I believe that the Holy Spirit speaks directly to each of those that have accepted Christ and uses the gifts of reason and the knowledge of the difference between good and evil (Original Sin)."
You think sin is a gift? Doesn't Scripture teach that sin is a curse?
"You are of course free to choose your own path, but I will not shut my heart to the Holy Spirit of open it to evil in the guise of God."
Are you not free to choose our own path as well? Do you commit the fallacy of the false dilemma in implying that the only options that exist are your perception of my path and your own?
You do realize that the question that led to original sin was, "Did God really say?" and the assumption was "No he did not", leading to the fall. You simply listen to the same misrepresentation, make the same error, and fall in the same way.
You do not understand the lesson of Job's friends, do you? What did they say about God? They said, "God would not allow an innocent man to suffer, Job. Therefore you must have sinned." What did God say? God said, "I am angry with you and your two friends, because you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has."
What did Job say? Job said, "Surely I spoke of things I did not understand, things too wonderful for me to know." In effect, Job admitted that he didn't know what he was talking about in questioning God's decision to let him suffer. You do the same thing, sitting in judgment on God's decisions when you don't know what you are talking about.
Of course, we know that Job was a type of Christ and that God would allow 'the innocent man to suffer' (Jesus Christ). Not only Christ, but the redeemed as well. I Peter 4:12-13, "Dear friends, do not be surprised at the painful trial you are suffering, as though something strange were happening to you. But rejoice that you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed."
You are in the unfortunate position of Job's friends, saying things about God that are not true. You have chosen the path of throwing out those parts of Scripture that do not conform to man's opinion. The Holy Spirit only confirms God's Word, He never denies it. That is Satan's job.
If you open your heart to ideas that are not found in Scripture, you can justify any behavior at all. This is what happened in the Garden. Eve opened her heart to the idea that she would not die if she disobeyed God's word. She was wrong.
"Pax Vobiscum."
etiam tecum
I would disagree with you on your analogy as to the first clause of the second amendment not meaning what it says. The problem with the first clause of the 2nd amendment is not it’s plain English meaning but rather that it gives sophists some wiggle room to build a deceptive argument around.
In any case your point is that I am not understanding Darwin’s meaning on that phrase (in regards to “favored races”. I’m not closed minded to that possibility so please educate me on the meaning.
FWIW I’m marginally invested in the evolution debate at best...I do think that Darwinism arrives at conclusions that require a materialist philosophy as a starting point (rather then being some sort of evidence for materialism). That the species that existed on the earth changed over time I think is well supported by the fossil record and that natural selection occurs is supported by observation, however I think that idea that speciation is caused by natural selection of “random” mutations is not supported without a philisophical bias.
In the bigger picture I think it’s irrelevant to the question (that most people involved are concerned with, that is) in regards to the existance of a transcendent Creator. I think there are more important scientific and philisophical areas to explore in regards to this question (such as the Big Bang theory as well as the Hard Problem of Consciousness in philosophy).
At any rate I do believe it is clear that the eugenics movement was inspired by “enlightenment” thinking and materialist philosophy with Darwin’s theory being no small part of that.
If I have in fact misunderstood Darwin’s meaning then it appears that the eugenecists did as well. So what was the meaning?
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