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Is this legal?

Posted on 09/28/2009 3:00:59 PM PDT by MNDude

My teenage nephew just got back to school this month with science teacher who is nicknamed "Mr. Evolution" because of his zeal for his beliefs.

Mr. E started class saying by saying "In this class, I intend to completely dismiss and disprove many religious myths".

I think this is going a little too far. Your opinions?

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To: Ira_Louvin

No. Read what i just wrote. I was not quoting ‘scientific evidence’. There isn’t any scientific evidence about the original form of humans anyway. You may BELIEVE scientists can go back in time to conduct experiments or make observations, but I do not. I also do not believe what scientists have here and now for their experiments and obsevations is necessarily indicative of what was around centuries and centuries ago. They ASSUME too much and do not admit and may not even recognise their underlying assumptions.

81 posted on 09/28/2009 10:17:17 PM PDT by clashfan
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To: clashfan

Does it really say they married their sisters? Or is it implied? Did I miss it somehow? (not Sacrcasm, just curiosity on my part). I think I remember there being somethink in there about the women not being part of the family. I have to go back and reread. Thanks...see you’ve got me reading the Bible now! Sometimes things happen for a reason :)

82 posted on 09/29/2009 4:48:57 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: clashfan

So you do agree that your assertion was not based on any empirical evidence. Happy we cleared that up.

As far as your anti-science stance perhaps a small amount of research would help. There are libraries full of information that show your statement to be incorrect. It is there if you just look.

83 posted on 09/29/2009 6:15:22 AM PDT by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: saganite

“I think evolution is a correct theory of the development of life and I frequently take issue with posters who want to teach intelligent design in the classroom. By the same token, this teacher has no business attacking religious beliefs in his classroom. It isn’t even a philosophy class. He’s off base and should be reined in.”

I agree with much of what you say however the question was “Is this legal” and yes, I believe it is. If it is not, I’d like someone to show me the law against it.

Is it wrong? Heck yes! But coming from a family of cops, you quickly learn the difference between “legal” and “right.”

84 posted on 09/29/2009 6:37:24 AM PDT by Grunthor (Gun toting, Bible thumping Flag waver. According to the left, I am a racist.)
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To: arrogantsob

Yes. Ridicule. Turn the Alinsky tables on the evolutionary atheists!

85 posted on 09/29/2009 8:18:49 AM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: Ira_Louvin

I am not anti-science. I just know the difference between religion and science.

You mistake science to be superior to religion, then expect everyone to make the same mistake.

What science ‘knows’ changes over time. What was correct in ‘libraries full of information’ five hundred years ago, for example, is no longer correct today.

My faith is absolute. What is within my Bible does not change. Science has never proven wrong anything in the Bible.

How dare you suggest to me that my religious belief should be backed up by empirical evidence and if it is not then it is wrong?

You insult me to tell me that just a small amount of research in libraries full of information will help me ‘correct’ my ‘incorrect’ beliefs.

You insult me to suggest I have not looked at ‘information in libraries’.

You have some nerve, Ira_Louvin, whoever you are and who asked you anyway? I never asked you for any iota of advice thank-you-very-much! Have you no manners?

Why does what I believe bother you so much that it drives you to attack me so snidely?

No response expected. My questions to you are purely for you own rumination.

I will pray for you.

86 posted on 09/29/2009 7:54:36 PM PDT by clashfan
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To: clashfan

Religion does not require empirical evidence because it is accepted on faith.

Science is based on empirical evidence and only considers natural explanations.

You made a scientific claim regarding DNA based on biblical interpretation so that would not be considered scientific evidence.

I am not stating that your belief is wrong, just that there is no scientific evidence to support your assertion.

I do not think that science is superior to religion. However many people here distort scientific evidence to support their religious beliefs.

It is too difficult for me to understand, so that proves that God did it is not and never will be scientific evidence

As long as you are praying for me please add a prayer that my custody battle prevails and my Son is not living 250 miles away from me.

87 posted on 09/30/2009 6:29:54 PM PDT by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: marstegreg

“But when it happened for the very first time, there could not have been any markers. These are just questions that have plagued me, especially when I was questioning the existance of God (in my younger days).”

I agree with you,
when I was younger I didn’t know much about life, as i get older, there are still no answers but there must be a God out there. I hope my questions are answered when the time is right.

Scientists speculate and can speculate all they want but they won’t know the answer either until it’s their turn.

I always wonder how people like Einstein could figure out mathematical formulas and theories of physics but our modern scientists don’t come as close.
All their work follows and expands on what has been done in the past, before computers. If Einstein could figure out the Theory of relativity without a computer, how come we haven’t been able to figure out the rest
like innerspace travel, living on the moon with the help of computers.
We haven’t even mapped most the earth yet and still have a hard time figuring out even with the help of computers.

Sorry for the long response.

88 posted on 09/30/2009 8:48:07 PM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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I liked your long response! Here’s one back at you!

I saw a story several years ago about the smartest man in America. They had him take an I.Q. test to prove it. His score turned out to be so high they couldn’t score it (It only went up to 200 I.Q.). He lived in a tiny little garage of a home with books all around him and a single bed in the center. His time is consumed by mathematically proving the existance of God. The other scientists said on the interview that his work is too complex even for them to understand, that it would be up to future generations to study because of the complexity. I can’t help wondering if he finished.

89 posted on 10/01/2009 4:50:06 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: brytlea

My HS biology teacher opened the year with a statement that went something like this:

“In this class I teach the theory of evolution. For the purposes of this class, all test questions should be answered in accordance with this theory, as presented in class and the textbook. Your personal beliefs outside of this class do not have any bearing on the correct test answers.”

He was a christian, and a pretty good teacher.

90 posted on 10/01/2009 5:00:49 AM PDT by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: MortMan

My students ALWAYS wanted to know what I thought about it. I told them my opinion wasn’t germane, they needed to learn what the State of TX was going to test them on, and furthermore if they disagreed with what they were being taught, they would have a lot better chance to refute it in an argument if they understood what it said. When someone says something like, “If we came from monkeys how come there are still monkeys” to someone as a refutation of Darwins theory, they immediately look stupid and uninformed.

91 posted on 10/01/2009 11:45:41 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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