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Glenn Beck smear campaign linked to ACORN?
http://www.glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com, http://www.acorn.org ^ | 9/12/09 | PhilipK9

Posted on 09/11/2009 9:50:22 PM PDT by PhilipK9

Howdy, fellow freepers!

I've looked at the HTML code at that horrible "smear Glenn Beck" web site and found something interesting.

It appears that this is not a bunch of jovial Internet pranksters suddenly becoming socialists and deciding to do a character assassination of Glenn Beck.

This is what got my attention:

From the "Glenn Beck slander web site"

<!--meta name="keywords" content="social justice organization,low income family,anti-war,paid sick days, predatory lending,katrina relief,osi-new york,minimum wage,afl-cio,living wage,new orleans, urban education,urban schools, heath care,political,civic engagement,hurricane katrina, political prisoners, gulf coast,rebuilding,rebuild america" /-->

Now compare this with acorn.org's meta-tags:

<meta name="keywords" content="acorn,social justice organization,acrn,acorns,acron,low income family,moderate income family,paid sick days,predatory lending,katrina relief,acorn voter registration,maude hurd,minimum wage,living wage,new orleans,urban education,urban schools,wade rathe,heath care,foreclosure,affordable housing,voter registration,registering voters,voter fraud,voter suppression,political,civic engagement,voter engagement,hurricane katrina,gulf coast,rebuilding,rebuild new orleans,rebuild america" />

In both of them health care is misspelled as "heath care" and a lot of the tags are similar...

Hmmm...

From the donkey excrements a mighty ACORN slander campaign grows!


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To: The Watcher

Geez ... look again.

Here’s what you should have found (two separate groups):

meta name=”keywords” content=”glenn,beck,rape,murder,1990,raped,glen,raped,murdered,really,did,glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990,glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com

meta name=”keywords” content=”social justice organization,low income family,anti-war,paid sick days,
predatory lending,katrina relief,osi-new york,minimum wage,afl-cio,living wage,new orleans, urban education,urban schools,
heath care,political,civic engagement,hurricane katrina, political prisoners, gulf coast,rebuilding,rebuild america


51 posted on 09/11/2009 10:28:40 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: PhilipK9

Posted again for the thick-skull crowd:

- - - - - - - -

From the “Glenn Beck slander web site”

1 social justice organization,
2 low income family,anti-war,paid sick days,
3 predatory lending,
4 katrina relief,osi-new york,
5 minimum wage,afl-cio,
6 living wage,
7 new orleans,
8 urban education,
9 urban schools,
10 heath care,political,
11 civic engagement,
12 hurricane katrina, political prisoners,
13 gulf coast,rebuilding,rebuild america

Now compare this with acorn.org’s meta-tags:

1 social justice organization,acrn,acorns,acron,
2 low income family,moderate income family,paid sick days,
3 predatory lending,
4 katrina relief,acorn voter registration,maude hurd,
5 minimum wage,
6 living wage,
7 new orleans,
8 urban education,
9 urban schools,wade rathe,
10 heath care,foreclosure,affordable housing,voter registration,registering voters,voter fraud,
voter suppression,political,
11 civic engagement,voter engagement,
12 hurricane katrina,
13 gulf coast,rebuilding,rebuild new orleans,rebuild america

- - - - - - -

I added the numbers to show what lined up with what.
I did not change the order.


52 posted on 09/11/2009 10:29:41 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: Ballygrl

“How come the site is coming up for me?”

Uh, oh...is your computer vibrating, or making a noise that sounds like a muted “Battle Hymn of the Republic” being played on a tin whistle?

It’s nothing...now turn out the lightts and go to sleep...


53 posted on 09/11/2009 10:31:08 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Integrity is the lifeblood of democracy. Deceit is a poison in it." - Ted Kennedy (D-HELL)
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To: dcwusmc

Because that website is a joke site. Now, suddenly, everyone is gonna visit it with their eye toward some conspiracy. What better joke?

Howlin greeted me with the same skepticism and I’m still here. If the n00b has any gumption let him stand his ground.


54 posted on 09/11/2009 10:31:18 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: _Jim

this site here

http://www.glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com/

has meta tags buried in line 592 in the code. i just looked at it comparing how the code was written to the other site and saw this

<!—meta name=”keywords” content=”social justice organization,low income family,anti-war,paid sick days,
predatory lending,katrina relief,osi-new york,minimum wage,afl-cio,living wage,new orleans, urban education,urban schools,
heath care,political,civic engagement,hurricane katrina, political prisoners, gulf coast,rebuilding,rebuild america” /—>

interesting - looks like they moved them down a bit


55 posted on 09/11/2009 10:36:10 PM PDT by ezoeni (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x32cxf_yuri-bezmenov)
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To: All

Last week, an anonymous 34-year-old computer science student decided the meme needed a home, so he started GlennBeckRapedandMurderedaYoungGirlin1990.com, complete with a fake arrest report and a plethora of information on the “case”.

Says Beck was trying to shut it down. Link to story below.

http://gawker.com/5355901/glenn-beck-pr-genius-spreads-the-false-rumor-he-raped-and-murdered-a-young-girl-in-1990

But considering the source code I wonder if this guy is a front too.


56 posted on 09/11/2009 10:36:13 PM PDT by moonpie57 ("Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." MLK)
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To: ezoeni
Yeah ... 'course, which came first, the egg or the parody of the egg. Someone copied the acorn site down to the metatags (well, kind of; the list that corresponds is actually commented out)
57 posted on 09/11/2009 10:38:59 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: JRandomFreeper

Go look for yourself and make up your own mind.

And everyone was a newbie at some point here, so go ahead and set up whatever hazing ritual y’all use around here to make me feel welcome ,)


58 posted on 09/11/2009 10:39:06 PM PDT by PhilipK9
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To: jessduntno; Admin Moderator
Also, our “fellow Freeper” Philip (9/10/09) provides a link and makes a claim, neither of which is verifiable.

The dead link provides us with an alternative link which is - www.acorn.org - suspicious in itself.

The rest is over my head, but other Freepers seem to have doubts and questions regarding the accuracy of it.

Definitely worth a look from the all knowing, all seeing Mods!

59 posted on 09/11/2009 10:43:35 PM PDT by airborne (Don't let history record that, when faced with evil, you did nothing!)
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To: PhilipK9

Excellent catch! Bravo Zulu, watchdog.


60 posted on 09/11/2009 10:44:39 PM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: dangus
Maybe someone should also keep a eye out and see if Keith Olberman uses the same terms on his TV show.
I would not be surprised if Keith Olberman would be in the shadows who is behind all of this crap because he did declare open war on Glen Beck.
61 posted on 09/11/2009 10:46:38 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: thecabal

You can get the site at http://gb1990.com/


62 posted on 09/11/2009 10:46:54 PM PDT by New Yawk Minute
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To: _Jim

(well, kind of; the list that corresponds is actually commented out)

yep...but, like I said earlier...it still doesn’t mean anything eitherb way...


63 posted on 09/11/2009 10:47:49 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Integrity is the lifeblood of democracy. Deceit is a poison in it." - Ted Kennedy (D-HELL)
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To: REDWOOD99

Heh, you’re proud to follow in the footsteps of one of the biggest biatches on the Internet?


64 posted on 09/11/2009 10:47:52 PM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: REDWOOD99

I just think it’s weird that someone would spend so much money and time on a site that’s probably getting a lot of hits unless there’s a financial incentive.

And there are no ads, no pleading for donations, no T-shirts and bumper stickers for sale, nothing.

And then the same meta-tags as acorn?

It would make sense, since Glenn Beck has been the most vocal about acorn’s corruption and voter fraud, that they would target him.

Dan Rather got fired because he didn’t check the document fonts and the truth is often in the details.


65 posted on 09/11/2009 10:48:08 PM PDT by PhilipK9
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To: jessduntno
...it still doesn’t mean anything eitherb way
[blink] [blink]
66 posted on 09/11/2009 10:49:05 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: PhilipK9

“Dan Rather got fired because he didn’t check the document fonts and the truth is often in the details.”

Dry hole...I promise.


67 posted on 09/11/2009 10:50:42 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Integrity is the lifeblood of democracy. Deceit is a poison in it." - Ted Kennedy (D-HELL)
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To: thecabal

She was the absolute crotchettiest beeyotch I ever ran across! I miss her every day.


68 posted on 09/11/2009 10:50:48 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: PhilipK9
And then the same meta-tags as acorn?

It would make sense, since Glenn Beck has been the most vocal about acorn’s corruption and voter fraud, that they would target him.

Dan Rather got fired because he didn’t check the document fonts and the truth is often in the details.

Chalk it up as a drill; one can never get too much practice sleuthing.
69 posted on 09/11/2009 10:50:54 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: airborne
I think the major point is found in the last code. Do we really want to spread this trash against Glen? I'm curious whether Philipk9 is a part of this or is he or she being as helpful as the ACORN workers.

Notice: This site is parody/satire. We assume Glenn Beck did not rape and murder a young girl in 1990, although we haven't yet seen proof that he didn't. But we think Glenn Beck definitely uses tactics like this to spread lies and misinformation.

Read the last sentence again. That's the point. Read it a third time and ignore the name of the site itself, because anyone who believes that we're trying to actually get people to believe Glenn Beck raped and/or murdered is *whoosh* missing the entire point. So don't be dumb like a lot of people are. I greatly expanded this text because so many people *read* it, and *still* didn't understand.

70 posted on 09/11/2009 10:51:00 PM PDT by swheats (Time is the greatest equalizer. Seek God in America Again. Be fruitful and multiply.)
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To: _Jim

...it still doesn’t mean anything eitherb way
[blink] [blink]

hahahha...it’s late...there’s another post back there somewhere that explains it...


71 posted on 09/11/2009 10:52:50 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Integrity is the lifeblood of democracy. Deceit is a poison in it." - Ted Kennedy (D-HELL)
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To: _Jim

the “personality” of the code writing is different from one site to the other. its kinda odd that that the same key words are there in odd places.


72 posted on 09/11/2009 10:52:56 PM PDT by ezoeni (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x32cxf_yuri-bezmenov)
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To: PhilipK9

Depends on your sense of humor. That sucker is some kind of twisted. I can appreciate the genius that would be necessary to perpetrate the hoax. Just watching this thread would be reward enough.

Either way, you’re smart. Just what made you look in that spot on both sites?


73 posted on 09/11/2009 10:55:16 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: jessduntno

True, it could be a coincidence and I’m seeing patterns that aren’t there.

On the other hand, there’s no harm in bringing this to light either.

Remember, cockroaches run from the light!


74 posted on 09/11/2009 10:55:16 PM PDT by PhilipK9
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To: ezoeni

“cut and paste”


75 posted on 09/11/2009 10:59:23 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: REDWOOD99

I’m a software developer, so I know that copying and pasting code from previous projects is very common.

And who would have the incentive to smear Glenn Beck?
The ACORN cockroaches he’s been exposing was my first choice.

They’re well-financed, amoral, vicious, but not very detail-oriented.


76 posted on 09/11/2009 11:00:04 PM PDT by PhilipK9
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To: All

I’m not accusing anyone of anything, but I have a feeling this could very well be the website author playing with us.


77 posted on 09/11/2009 11:01:00 PM PDT by moonpie57 ("Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." MLK)
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To: _Jim

yep


78 posted on 09/11/2009 11:01:36 PM PDT by ezoeni (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x32cxf_yuri-bezmenov)
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To: PhilipK9

http://gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=10075.0

What did you think of this?


79 posted on 09/11/2009 11:02:16 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: PhilipK9

Great catch! Breitbart, for sure. He’s on a roll.


80 posted on 09/11/2009 11:04:54 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. And NEVER GIVE UP!)
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To: moonpie57

I can see three possible scenarios, based on the feedback from this thread:

1. This is an astroturf smear campaign made to look like something else.

2. The web admin of the smear site wants to mess with our minds.

3. The web admin is a lazy SOB and copies other people’s code.

I’m more inclined to believe 1 or 3.

1, because I don’t see how one guy would pay for hosting, bandwidth, etc. just for a prank.

3, because I’m a lazy SOB and copy code too ;)

Then again, if he’s a lefist then he doesn’t understand capitalism anyway and will spend his mom’s social security checks on hating on the web.


81 posted on 09/11/2009 11:09:07 PM PDT by PhilipK9
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To: REDWOOD99

the post by Oceander on that page is good, thanks for posting i just learned a few things


82 posted on 09/11/2009 11:11:26 PM PDT by ezoeni (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x32cxf_yuri-bezmenov)
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To: bootless

Will do!

Boy, you guys are a tough crowd!

Still, that’s what I get for being a rookie ;)

Off to bed now, no rest for the not quite so wicked!


83 posted on 09/11/2009 11:12:03 PM PDT by PhilipK9
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To: REDWOOD99

OK, one more reply before bedtime.

It’s great web sleuthing.

It does not explain how this schlub has the money to set this up.

And all this effort for a hateful prank site?
And risk being sued by an army of lawyers?

I wouldn’t do it unless I had some backup, financial or otherwise.

Then again, I’m neither hateful nor suicidal.


84 posted on 09/11/2009 11:19:27 PM PDT by PhilipK9
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To: PhilipK9; Buckhead
A possible newbie “Buckhead” on 9/11? One of the signs of the apocalypse?
85 posted on 09/11/2009 11:32:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $1 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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To: PhilipK9

excellent detective work!


86 posted on 09/11/2009 11:40:41 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: PhilipK9

I’m thinking he lives in Mommy’s basement and has nothing better to do.


87 posted on 09/11/2009 11:44:33 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: PhilipK9

Good catch! This reminds me of the “same typo” situation showing up in the DNC certification documents (one with and one without the “Constitutionally eligible” language).


88 posted on 09/11/2009 11:45:34 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: dangus

As a web developer I will tell you that we routinely snag meta content from previous designs or sites and then strip out the tags we don’t want or replace them.

I would make absolute sense that if this project had many of the same keywords, to just open the html page from acorn and copy and paste it into the new site.

There are two possibilities

1. It’s possible that the people who designed/managed the ACORN website also designed this new website and simply used their code from one site on another to save time. (If you know tags are correct on one site, it’s easier to just cut and paste than have to validate another set of tags from scratch)

2. It’s possible that the person creating this site likes the ACORN site or it an active visitor to the site and simply hit the “view source code”, copied and pasted it into their new work. (For many self-taught designers, web wannabes they have no idea how to write meta tags, so they find a site they like and swipe the code from their pages.)

My guess is that it’s likely #2. BUT, it obviates the point that this person is a fan of ACORN - and is more than likely an active member or volunteer. So, while this is a good and interesting find, it’s not good evidence of anything other than the meta code was probably lifted from ACORN’s site.


89 posted on 09/11/2009 11:50:18 PM PDT by dannyboy72a (The President of the United States should not be selling me insurance or lightbulbs)
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To: PhilipK9

The idiots can’t even spell.

Good catch!


90 posted on 09/11/2009 11:53:24 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: PhilipK9; All

Philip

Welcome to FR.

That said ... I looked at the html coding of the CURRENT and ACTIVE page for BOTH sites and confirm your claim -- that is, as you present that claim.

Unfortunately, in looking at Google’s cache, the archive for both sites only goes back to 9/10/09 FOR BOTH SITES. Archive.org HAS NO archives of either sites.

However, in using Bing's archive of BOTH site, the defamatory Glenn Beck site does NOT - repeat, does NOT - use “heath care” in its metaname tags.

ACORN.ORG (8/31/2009)
http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=acorn+org&d=76646138723564&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=4ff11056,d9fc9772

< meta name="keywords" content="acorn,social justice organization,acrn,acorns,acron,low income family,moderate income family,paid sick days,predatory lending,katrina relief,acorn voter registration,maude hurd,minimum wage,living wage,new orleans,urban education,urban schools,wade rathe,heath care,foreclosure,affordable housing,voter registration,registering voters,voter fraud,voter suppression,political,civic engagement,voter engagement,hurricane katrina,gulf coast,rebuilding,rebuild new orleans,rebuild america" >

AND

glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com (9/03/2009)
http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990+com&d=76659782976703&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=8bdc41a,96c00087

< meta name="keywords" content="glenn,beck,rape,murder,1990,raped,glen,raped,murdered,really,did,glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990,glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com" >

SO, as much as I can't deny ACORN is a throng of lying, crooked and depraved scumbags that deserve to be publicly horse-whipped - the fact that the defamatory Beck site's cached metatags are very different than ACORN's metatags make it INCONCLUSIVE that the scumbag webmaster of the defamatory Beck site didn't simply copy ACORN's metatags. They would sloppily copy the metatags to try to grab some of ACORN's web traffic from search engines.

Just thought I'd throw that in.

Always be skeptical ... ALWAYS.


91 posted on 09/12/2009 12:09:31 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

Just what exactly do you mean by “skeptical”? ;)


92 posted on 09/12/2009 12:11:52 AM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: PhilipK9; dcwusmc; REDWOOD99; airborne

Who is Isaac Eiland-Hall?

When you do a reverse IP domain check, you find that there are only 20 domains hosted on the web server (174.142.41.105) that has glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com and gb1990.com

On the same server, you’ll find isaac.eiland-hall.com and eiland-hall.com.

panamacitypc.com is also registered to him and is on the same server. Others might be too but didn’t search the rest.

Isaac Eiland-Hall has an interesting background. You’ll find his candid thoughts on Republicans on one site.

http://isaac.eiland-hall.com/?s=republican

Excerpts:

“So all you Republican holier-than-thou morons, you can STFU. Oh, and I’m not a Democrat. I hate both parties with a strong passion. I am a liberal...”

“I’m not so much Democrat as I am Anti-Republican…”

“Why are contemporary Republicans so full of shit? My personal answer: Hey, who cares? They’re the only thing making the Democrats look like the better of the two parties… bah-dum-ching.”

You get the point.

Here’s where it gets more interesting. He did an internship this summer in Washington DC for by the Hispanic Association of Colleges and Universities.

http://www.hacu.net/hacu/NewsBot.asp?MODE=VIEW&ID=626&SnID=2

Who did he work for in DC? And was the internship tied to an ACORN organization?


93 posted on 09/12/2009 12:16:34 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Caligula's horse as Senator was smarter than our current Congress)
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To: musicman

self-ping bookmark


94 posted on 09/12/2009 12:39:36 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: PhilipK9

I counted 14 meta tags which were identical and pretty much in the same order _ Plus the “heath care” smelling eror.


95 posted on 09/12/2009 12:44:04 AM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: _Jim

You need to send this off to Joe Wilson’s office, Glen Beck, Hannity, Rush and all the others. ASAP if not sooner.


96 posted on 09/12/2009 12:46:19 AM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: ezoeni

It IS a good post. Thanks for the link.

*It’s 3:00am...and I can’t sleep* 0_o


97 posted on 09/12/2009 12:51:13 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (http://www.muckety.com/7BECFF40501E647D3741343C37265A57.map)
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To: PhilipK9

Bravo!

Get this to Glenn Beck, Andrew Breitbart, Mark Levin, Matt Drudge, etc.

Bump to the top.


98 posted on 09/12/2009 12:57:34 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski

Interesting:

http://isaac.eiland-hall.com/


99 posted on 09/12/2009 1:09:41 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (http://www.muckety.com/7BECFF40501E647D3741343C37265A57.map)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

http://www.google.com/profiles/112803903938526274789


100 posted on 09/12/2009 1:13:47 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (http://www.muckety.com/7BECFF40501E647D3741343C37265A57.map)
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