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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: RachelFaith

2 nd post...?...found “Dis” Thread !!!...(snif)...


15,901 posted on 04/29/2007 11:25:21 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: SoCalPol

bookmark


15,902 posted on 04/29/2007 11:43:48 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: Brad's Gramma

But to PLAN to come here & goad FRers...and then act innocent when they’re called on it...that crosses a line with me.

That is flat out WRONG. Go and have your forum, do what you can to support your guy...but why does THIS have to happen???


I’m seeing it too BG, and it’s heart-wrenching. If they want to go, go, but they should leave with dignity.


15,903 posted on 04/29/2007 11:57:24 PM PDT by SnarlinCubBear ("Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." -- Thomas Mann)
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To: RachelFaith; All

I’m just a lurker really. I’ve never gotten involved in any of the personal fights, and I am as unknown here as could be.

But I am not out of touch.

I know who the trolls are (were) and I know who the real conservatives are.

I’m just coming out to say GOD BLESS YOU for this spring cleaning.
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12 day old account ??

2nd post ??

know who the “trolls” are/WERE ??

Mad Ivan Throw You Out Aw`Ready ??

!!IBTZ!!~”RachelFath”...your a troll...

Of All The Threads On FR,,,”THIS THREAD” Is Your 2ND POST ??

BWAhahahahaha...;0)


15,904 posted on 04/30/2007 12:00:25 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: All
placemarker


15,905 posted on 04/30/2007 12:24:01 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: AntiGuv

I knew that was what was going to happen to the “Rudy Express.”


15,906 posted on 04/30/2007 12:27:05 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Hey, I finally figured out who your posts remind me of. It was f.Christian, or something like that, but I guess he was before your time. I think he got banned just for being incoherent. LOL


15,907 posted on 04/30/2007 12:27:06 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: Gelato

If you are saying do I realize that some women will lie and accuse a man of rape so they can get an abortion, then yes I realize that. I’m not advocating it, I’m saying that is the only way you could attempt to enforce it. My personal approach would be to ban all abortion except in cases where the life of the mother is at stake.


15,908 posted on 04/30/2007 12:30:17 AM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: EternalVigilance
This was an incredibly pointless and senseless debacle. Rudy already had less than 10% support on FR. I don't know what anyone thinks has been accomplished here except perhaps the settling of some personal scores. And the ultimate irony is that most of the Rudy crowd are broken-glass types who will all but certainly support whatever GOP nominee wins it fair & square.
15,909 posted on 04/30/2007 12:35:04 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: AntiGuv

I’m sorry you can’t see it, but Jim had to shake some of these people loose. They were making a mockery of what he believes in, and what he’s fighting for. FR will be better for it. Wait and see.


15,910 posted on 04/30/2007 12:46:27 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: AntiGuv

Good night, and take care.


15,911 posted on 04/30/2007 12:48:16 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: EternalVigilance

Well, I’ll grant you it’ll be interesting to see what comes of it all. Anyhow, I told myself I wouldn’t post anything else in this thread ... but there I go again. I just couldn’t sleep and bad habits die hard! :)


15,912 posted on 04/30/2007 12:49:42 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: EternalVigilance

Yup, g’nite 2u2!

And the beat rolls on.


15,913 posted on 04/30/2007 12:51:22 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: AntiGuv
I think he got banned just for being incoherent. LOL
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I too was incoherent,,,then I joined FR a short time ago,,,
I learned from very smart people,,,FReepers,,,
And yes,,,I claim the spot of “Village~Idiot~Of~FReepdom”
;0)
15,914 posted on 04/30/2007 12:54:42 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Caught up7


15,915 posted on 04/30/2007 1:44:43 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Anti Islam and a Global Warming denier - piss on Islam)
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To: Elyse

Why don’t you just link it then instead of pinging someone else?


15,916 posted on 04/30/2007 1:54:15 AM PDT by IrishRainy (I used to NEVER finish anything, but now I)
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To: BykrBayb
Yes, it’s always best to save things like that, and get others to save them too, before mentioning them. Good job.

Now if she could just produce said saved document....(yawn)

15,917 posted on 04/30/2007 1:58:58 AM PDT by IrishRainy (I used to NEVER finish anything, but now I)
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To: AntiGuv
Hey, I finally figured out who your posts remind me of. It was f.Christian, or something like that, but I guess he was before your time. I think he got banned just for being incoherent. LOL
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Incoherent?????
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1819286/posts
The “personhood” of the unborn is not recognized in U.S. law so if the Court is to rule on that basis then U.S. law first needs to change in that regard.

FYI: This Macchiavellian ends-justify-the-means approach to the law inevitably turns around and bites you in the butt when it’s your pet issue on the other side of a ruling..

But I will grant you that the Supremes have so contorted the law in the past 40 years that this is all just tilting at windmills.

PS. A federal government that doesn’t have the power to tell the states to ban a procedure also doesn’t have the power to tell the states to un-ban a procedure...
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You Support That gun-grabbin’-baby-killin’ Bull$$$T !!!
Your posts show that...Roooty~Toot~Toot...It’s Murder.
You have X’Splaned all of rOOOties “gOOOd” points for all.

15,918 posted on 04/30/2007 2:03:49 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: garv
No, actually it was right here on FreeRepublic about 5 years ago. About 50% of Americans want abortion to remain legal but restricted to the first trimester, 21% want it outlawed, and 29% want abortion on demand with no restrictions.

Have a nice day now.

15,919 posted on 04/30/2007 2:05:39 AM PDT by IrishRainy (I used to NEVER finish anything, but now I)
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To: Elyse
Why just the other day, Elyse, you told me not to post to you, that I was "stalking" you, and I respected your wishes.

But when someone asks YOU not to post to them, all of a sudden it's a free country and you can do what you want?

15,920 posted on 04/30/2007 2:11:16 AM PDT by IrishRainy (I used to NEVER finish anything, but now I)
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