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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: DCPatriot

Thank you, DCPatriot. It’s nice to know that I have FRiends who know me better than that. Just so you know, I’m a woman (aka wife, mother, “retired” military mom, grandma, and Lord help me, I’m a Norwegian too. LOL) :)


15,161 posted on 04/29/2007 3:21:36 PM PDT by Chena (Why settle for less when you could have the best! Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: Jhensy

INCOMING!!!

{{{Ducking}}}


15,162 posted on 04/29/2007 3:22:00 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Some people are like slinkys, the idea of them tumbling down a flight of stairs makes you smile.)
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To: Jhensy
After that vulgar post, we have a lovely parting gift for you - a free membership at Soundasleep Wideawakes.
15,163 posted on 04/29/2007 3:22:32 PM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: dirtboy

And he’s buy-ing a stair-way, to heavennnnn...


15,164 posted on 04/29/2007 3:24:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: dirtboy

Pfff, tensions are high.......do we have to ban EVERYONE?


15,165 posted on 04/29/2007 3:24:13 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: Nick Danger

JimRob is making this place more hospitable to social conservatives ... That’s fine.
***Then you should be fine with how he chooses to do so.

I don’t, however, recall him calling in the Taliban to cleanse the place of everyone not wearing the burka or the beard.
***Interesting analogy, but it’s highly emotive and baiting. JimRob’s doing it with the tools, methods and people he has at hand. You don’t like it, take it up with Jim. You’re responding to a post where I asked people to go back through the old rudy threads. Have you? It might help you to see why such “taliban” tactics are necessary.

In 15062 we have a messianic ayatollah claiming that he and his band of snarling yahoos are speaking for God as they crash through the place threatening 8- and 9-year Freepers with bannings and bug zappers.
***15062 is just a simple picture with a door and a light, I don’t know how you can read so much into it. If you don’t like what’s going on, stay off the thread and let it die as it should.

They say a fanatic is a man who does what God would do if God had all the facts. When little ayatollahs start thinking they speak for God, it’s time to rein them in.
***You lost me on your connection with post 15062 and little ayatollahs. I don’t find myself in agreement with your conclusion. If anyone can read the core values statement of free republic and find themselves in disagreement with it, then it’s better for them if they leave or keep quiet rather than try to separate socons from their values.


15,166 posted on 04/29/2007 3:24:25 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: ScreamingFist

Damn, re-read that post and get back to me.


15,167 posted on 04/29/2007 3:24:41 PM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: Dog Gone

FR is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-liberty, pro-national-security, pro-decency, pro-character in presidential candidates, pro-constitution, pro-rule of law, pro-capitalism, pro-freedom, etc.

Rudy Giulani is disqualified and rejected out of hand as a potential acceptable nominee because his often stated and demonstrated support for abortion and the gay agenda shows his total disregard, disrespect and utter contempt for God, Christianity, conservatives, the pro-life, pro-family conservative movements, conservatism in general, family values, and our traditional American heritage. His tortured, twisted liberal-based logic to try to justify his support for Roe vs Wade, abortion rights, taxpayer funded abortion, extra-constitutional gay rights, etc, demonstrates his total disregard and utter contempt for the constitution, strict constructionism and original intent.

His support for and active participation in NARAL, Planned Parenthood, and other radical socialist abortionist, feminist, homosexualist, gay, lesbian, transsexual, transgender rights activist and lobby groups is a slap in the face to the conservative movement and again shows his disregard, disrespect and utter contempt for Christianity, conservatives and conservatism in general, decency, family values, our American heritage, even a disregard for capitalism and freedom itself.

Why do I say a disregard for capitalism and freedom? Because the groups and causes he associates with, allies himself with, supports, advocates and lobbies for are all leftist, socialist supported and socialist funded groups and causes. Who backs and funds these groups? People like George Soros, Ted Turner, and the dregs of the democrat, liberal and socialist caucuses of our congress and the world’s leftist socialism movements in general. Abortion rights/gay rights are socialist causes. As leftist/socialist causes, they’re also supported by and allied with the international antiwar groups. They march in solidarity with International Answer and the World Workers Party. When you see pictures and videos of a smiling and giggling Rudy Giuliani leading Gay Rights parades down 5th Avenue, just remember he’s marching arm in arm with socialists, antiwar activists, anarchists, and the dregs of the world’s leftist/socialist/communist movements. He supports and lobbies for and helps fund same. It’s totally unreasonable to ask any conservative who loves God, America, family, decency, liberty and freedom to support such a disgrace of a leftist/socialist and national security risk for president.

All of the above plus more can be applied and said about his disregard, disrespect and utter contempt for America, the Constitution, conservatives, the rule of law, capitalism and liberty when it comes to gun control and his support and socialist tendencies for illegal aliens and sanctuary cities, etc.

Anyone who can’t see why FR outright rejects this man and doesn’t want to see his supporters pushing pro-Rudy propaganda while attacking, smearing, sliming, running down and disparaging conservatism and conservative candidates, the pro-life, pro-family and pro-gun movements and our conservative posters is blind to what FR and conservatism is all about.

FR supports the pro family pro constitution conservative wing of the GOP. Rudy supporters, for the most part, represent the views of the liberal RINO wing and reflect the views of leftist world socialism.

One FR poster on the other side summed it up quite nicely when she declared, “Conservatives have held their foot on the neck of the GOP for too long. The new GOP will be more moderate. We’ll govern from the center. Abortion and guns will never again be important causes for the GOP.”

I reject that declaration and reject anyone who supports it.


15,168 posted on 04/29/2007 3:24:42 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: DCPatriot

I think that is FREEP-AHOLIC, DC! And it is a very powerful addiction indeed, and usually a pleasant one...


15,169 posted on 04/29/2007 3:25:21 PM PDT by RobFromGa (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
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To: Chena

LOL! See? My subconcious would not allow me to consider that he was berating a woman! LOL!


15,170 posted on 04/29/2007 3:25:22 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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I'll guess you're Rudy supporter.

Whatever made you think that his cadidacy would be a good fit for FR?

15,171 posted on 04/29/2007 3:26:38 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles

Who are you talking to?

Your post isn’t linking back to anyone in particular.


15,172 posted on 04/29/2007 3:28:18 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Some people are like slinkys, the idea of them tumbling down a flight of stairs makes you smile.)
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To: dirtboy

He already executed plan B - six days ago.


15,173 posted on 04/29/2007 3:28:43 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Assign your own priorities or someone else will)
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To: Jim Robinson

“I reject that declaration and reject anyone who supports it.”

Does that mean people will be banned for criticizing the attitudes of anti-Rudy conservatives? Am I reading too much into this?


15,174 posted on 04/29/2007 3:29:13 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: dirtboy

I read it dirt....it was spoken from anger......we don’t just trash members from anger....they get a cool down and a chance to think......


15,175 posted on 04/29/2007 3:29:16 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: SandyInSeattle; Jhensy
jhensy.

I don't know why it lost the link.

It looks like the post it was tied to got deleted.

15,176 posted on 04/29/2007 3:29:40 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: new cruelty; LandofLincoln

It’s LL that asked for the bugzapping to stop in the interest of fairness. So, what does fair mean, exactly, if he only asks one side to cease fire? It all happened right here on this thread, and I didn’t go anywhere else other than free republic to highlight his inconsistency.


15,177 posted on 04/29/2007 3:29:43 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: mkjessup; OMalley; upsdriver
Hey, maybe nopartners can get with howlin over at WideAflakes for some hot troll-on-troll action? LOL

Nopartners, (As fierce allegience called her) sees herself as the Queen , I am sure she does go troll on troll. She is much above that. She likes to see herself in charge of the trolls.

Remember she told us she has good breeding:)
15,178 posted on 04/29/2007 3:30:35 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: mkjessup
I don't consume caffeine, so your assertion is incorrect, per usual. Your application of genteel is also incorrect in the context of the post. I am not agitated. Thus, you are batting .000 this inning.

Tell me about your FReeper and conservative activities outside of keyboard bully tactics and taunts in this forum. Surely as you proudly wear the title Minister of Conservative Purity™, you must have attended FReeper events, CPAC, or perhaps even the Gathering of Eagles, March for Justice, etc. , over the years. Please, we would love for your to share your conservative activism stories.

I'll put out some extra cookies while you tell us all about it.


15,179 posted on 04/29/2007 3:31:19 PM PDT by NautiNurse (I am a proud cookie baker.)
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To: DCPatriot

Go through my posting history if you’re so curious about me.


15,180 posted on 04/29/2007 3:32:09 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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