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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: MrEdd

15000


15,001 posted on 04/29/2007 12:58:03 PM PDT by MrEdd (Dogs think they're human, Cats think they're Gods.)
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To: EternalVigilance

15,002 posted on 04/29/2007 12:58:13 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: wagglebee

Hurts. This has caused a lot of collateral pain.

There’s a place for doing what was done, and I respect JimRob greatly, and I understand he had to draw a line in the sand. And that’s pretty much done.

But lots of folks are reacting to the number, and the new fact that people are calling them monsters and trolling them for saying they will vote for the good of the party “if.”

That’s not the same thing as being a Rudybot.

And it’s adding to the hurt load.


15,003 posted on 04/29/2007 12:58:27 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: IrishRainy

D’oh :)


15,004 posted on 04/29/2007 12:58:27 PM PDT by MrEdd (Dogs think they're human, Cats think they're Gods.)
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To: MrEdd

Rats! I was trying to make it in on 15000. Congrats.


15,005 posted on 04/29/2007 12:58:44 PM PDT by techcor
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To: IrishRainy

Congrats on 15000!


15,006 posted on 04/29/2007 12:58:52 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: wagglebee

That is why I like the bugzapper concept. It is just a light which has been lit. Bugs, trolls, and unsavory critters fly right into it and create a satisfying noise sort of like a zot sound.

They just can’t help it because of what they are.


15,007 posted on 04/29/2007 12:59:09 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Doesn’t in my opinion. I just don’t believe Rudy would do anything different in substance than Hillary to be honest...But I could even vote for (shudder, shudder, shudder) McCain for the good of the party.

Rudy is not my idea of a conservative candidate .. but he is no Hellary

At least Rudy will defend our country

As for McCain .. In all honestly .. I REALLY can't stand the man

But like I said .. whoever the candidate is in the General election .. I will vote for that person

15,008 posted on 04/29/2007 12:59:21 PM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: 8mmMauser

whatever


15,009 posted on 04/29/2007 1:02:20 PM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Kevmo

You make some good points, especially if FR is meant primarily for social conservatives.

This may sound kind of uninformed on my part, but I hadn’t really picked up on the fact that FR is strictly a socon site, I’d figured it for just “con” up until this week, though I’d certainly noted early on that libertarian thought is met with scorn by many freepers. Even though libertarianism in its boiled down essence runs pretty parallel to the definitions of conservatism put forth by Jim Robinson’s defintions of conservatism the last few days (except with belief in God not being a requirement for libertarianism).

It looks to me as if this entire fracas is about social conservatism vs the other strains of it.


15,010 posted on 04/29/2007 1:02:50 PM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: Mo1

And I honor you for it!


15,011 posted on 04/29/2007 1:02:56 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: 8mmMauser
Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate? ^

Posted by Jim Robinson
On News/Activism ^ 04/21/2007 8:42:25 PM CDT · 15,007
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vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

15,012 posted on 04/29/2007 1:03:30 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Yes! I’m hoping savvy freepers can help educate me.


15,013 posted on 04/29/2007 1:04:24 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Yes! I’m hoping savvy freepers can help educate me. I have a contaminated food ping list if anyone is interested in joining.


15,014 posted on 04/29/2007 1:05:06 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: 8mmMauser

I think most of them are so delusional that they actually believe they are conservatives and they are genuinely confused about why real conservatives aren’t in agreement with them.


15,015 posted on 04/29/2007 1:05:15 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

(copin’ off smart~gurilz paper when she ain’t lookin’)..;0)


15,016 posted on 04/29/2007 1:05:34 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Mo1
At least Rudy will defend our country

In what way? so far he has shown that he despises the Idea of closing the borders, and has put his mob friends in positions of authority in the Department of Homeland Security. He is a draft dodger just like Clinton, and has always moved to disarm the law abiding populace when he was in power. My Idea and Rooty's idea of defending America are diametrically opposed.

15,017 posted on 04/29/2007 1:06:07 PM PDT by MrEdd (Dogs think they're human, Cats think they're Gods.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Congrats on 15000!

Thanks! I'd like to thank my mother and father, and of course Jesus...

Oops, got a little carried away there!

15,018 posted on 04/29/2007 1:06:55 PM PDT by IrishRainy (I used to NEVER finish anything, but now I)
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To: EternalVigilance

You forgot your halo


15,019 posted on 04/29/2007 1:08:38 PM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: MrEdd

nice bait


15,020 posted on 04/29/2007 1:09:41 PM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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