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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Knitting A Conundrum
I want us to come together to get someone all of us can vote for, holding our noses or not.

We are still in the primary process .. I will vote for who I think is the more conservative candidate .. as will everyone else .... because that is how the process works

Though I know it's a long shot for Hunter .. he's got my vote

Should another candidate get in the race .. I will keep an open mind and seriously take a look at that person also

Though come the General election .. I would vote for whoever the GOP candidate is

Because no matter was is said .. A socialist dem in the WH with a socialist controlled congress is not something our country can survive

And if you think I'm wrong .. just take a look at Gramma Nan and numbnut Reid and the Bills they just got passed

If that all makes me a liberal troll .. then so be it

14,981 posted on 04/29/2007 12:49:02 PM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Stultis
What the hell happened to Howlin?

Or are we all supposed to ignore that?

She said something nasty and left in a huff.

She always carried a huge chip on her shoulder and I have mostly ignored her since I came to this site.

14,982 posted on 04/29/2007 12:49:04 PM PDT by MrEdd (Dogs think they're human, Cats think they're Gods.)
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To: ScreamingFist
While I'm aware and understand Jim Robinson is the site founder and site admin and site overseer, thousands contribute funds to keep this site active......so I'm not sure about the "Jim Rob's house".....analogy....

If so, then your grasp of analogy is no firmer than the one you hold, re: grammar and punctuation. Spending money at any given privately-owned operation or locale does not carry with it the right, implicit or otherwise, to ignore (much less supercede) the rules of said establishment.

You cannot walk into a movie theater, and -- because you paid to get in -- stage a noisy, drunken party in the center of the lobby. Admission to any city's art museum doesn't grant the paying patron the "right" to scrawl on the walls, or conduct an impromptu indoor game of softball.

A basic understanding, re: the sanctity of private property, is a baseline tenet of conservatism, and always has been. Period, end of sentence, full stop.

14,983 posted on 04/29/2007 12:49:22 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Proudly keeping one iron boot on the necks of libertarian faux 'conservatives' since 1958!")
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To: Chena

It’s that temptation to say, no I don’t which gets us every time...


14,984 posted on 04/29/2007 12:49:42 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; Mo1; Jim Robinson

What exactly is the problem with baiting? Jim wanted to find out who the liberals were and give them the opportunity to either become conservative or leave, he didn’t force these liberals to out themselves.


14,985 posted on 04/29/2007 12:51:30 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Reagan Man

So who are you pimping for then? RR’s gone so who floats your boat now, and why should we vote for him...other than the fact that he or she isn’t Rudy.


14,986 posted on 04/29/2007 12:51:36 PM PDT by IrishRainy (I used to NEVER finish anything, but now I)
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To: Mo1

Doesn’t in my opinion. I just don’t believe Rudy would do anything different in substance than Hillary to be honest...But I could even vote for (shudder, shudder, shudder) McCain for the good of the party.

This is a bridge we will have to cross if we get to it. And it will be a matter of conscience.

Until then, I will work like the dickens. And try to not tear us apart on hypotheticals.


14,987 posted on 04/29/2007 12:53:10 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

So true! But there is also no honor in not defending oneself against false accusations. I would also defend a friend as well. :)


14,988 posted on 04/29/2007 12:53:23 PM PDT by Chena (Why settle for less when you could have the best! Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
"A foe to God was never a true friend to man." - Young
14,989 posted on 04/29/2007 12:53:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: Stultis
What the hell happened to Howlin?

She's one of the moderators at the newest anti-FReeper forums. She was upset that conservatives "have their foot on the throat of the GOP."

14,990 posted on 04/29/2007 12:53:44 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: little jeremiah
The leftist agenda is soul-destroying. It is actually even more dangerous that radical Islamists.

Well said

14,991 posted on 04/29/2007 12:55:24 PM PDT by MrEdd (Dogs think they're human, Cats think they're Gods.)
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To: MrEdd

mine


14,992 posted on 04/29/2007 12:55:43 PM PDT by MrEdd (Dogs think they're human, Cats think they're Gods.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
"God governs the world, and we have only to do our duty wisely, and leave the issue to him. - John Jay
14,993 posted on 04/29/2007 12:56:37 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: MrEdd
My Position from the start has been:
If we need people we can process in new citizens who have never committed any crime including entering illegally.

And who are drawn from every country in the world

From Iceland To South Africa, From Norway to South Korea
Every corner of the globe, not giving ANY preference to the few nations to our immediate south.

My Position Has Not Changed.

14,994 posted on 04/29/2007 12:56:56 PM PDT by MrEdd (Dogs think they're human, Cats think they're Gods.)
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To: MrEdd

15000


14,995 posted on 04/29/2007 12:57:22 PM PDT by MrEdd (Dogs think they're human, Cats think they're Gods.)
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To: MrEdd
Here, want to borrow a flag?

;-)

14,996 posted on 04/29/2007 12:57:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: MrEdd

15000


14,997 posted on 04/29/2007 12:57:36 PM PDT by MrEdd (Dogs think they're human, Cats think they're Gods.)
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To: MrEdd

15000


14,998 posted on 04/29/2007 12:57:51 PM PDT by MrEdd (Dogs think they're human, Cats think they're Gods.)
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To: MrEdd

14,999 posted on 04/29/2007 12:57:51 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: EternalVigilance

Go, Alan, Go!


15,000 posted on 04/29/2007 12:58:01 PM PDT by IrishRainy (I used to NEVER finish anything, but now I)
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