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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: sully777

Actually, I hated to see Celtjew Libertarian go. We certainly disagree on a bunch of important stuff, but he’s an old friend, and a good person.


11,241 posted on 04/26/2007 2:33:50 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The decks are cleared for battle - damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!)
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To: calcowgirl

My gut reaction to the list in its current form is this: I suspect some of those folks were “under surveillance” for some time. Call it a watch list, if you will.


11,242 posted on 04/26/2007 2:37:42 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: b_sharp
Taking a well accepted description of conservatism and building a ill considered Conservatism based on bits and pieces of the original description brings up visions of brown shirts and black boots (valid or not).

You have a nice living document day.

11,243 posted on 04/26/2007 2:39:08 PM PDT by MrEdd (Dogs think they're human, Cats think they're Gods.)
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To: Kevmo

Spank your hand! LOL!


11,244 posted on 04/26/2007 2:40:04 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Fiddlstix
No there is a tinfiol hatter that could well might convince me!
11,245 posted on 04/26/2007 2:40:25 PM PDT by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

bump


11,246 posted on 04/26/2007 2:41:02 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhymes, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
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To: Spiff

Will another $20 from me help?


11,247 posted on 04/26/2007 2:41:24 PM PDT by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
... we should respect his wishes and opinions,

Has anyone suggested that JimRob can't do whatever he wants? Of course he can!

But he recognizes, I think, that he doesn't want to be the 100% arbiter of content, otherwise, FR would be just another blog.

He can and does direct moderating as he chooses.

And FR as a whole is what it is.

I think the choices he makes about banning people help mold it, but if he wanted it to be 100% in lockstep with him, then he could turn it into a personal blog with specific posters.

I don't know how well that would do.

11,248 posted on 04/26/2007 2:43:29 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: processing please hold

“What a hypocrite! And jadward can speak for Himself”

You first. Then we’re not having this conversation. Correct? lol


11,249 posted on 04/26/2007 2:45:46 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("You tell them I'm comin...and hell's comin with me"!)
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To: sully777
No such thing as actual provable evolutionary science, or even just plain provable science.

You need to brush up on you evo threads to find out that nothing in science can ever be proved, only disproved.

11,250 posted on 04/26/2007 2:53:27 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

bump


11,251 posted on 04/26/2007 2:57:29 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Anti Islam and a Global Warming denier - piss on Islam)
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To: sam_paine

His definitions are comfortable enough that there’s plenty of room. But he has clearly drawn lines in the sand. And because it’s his site, we should respect his wishes.


11,252 posted on 04/26/2007 2:59:14 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: rbmillerjr

Consider it a non conversation. I have more pressing problems.


11,253 posted on 04/26/2007 3:05:15 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; Jim Robinson; John Robinson; darkwing104; Spiff

JimRob has graciously allowed us to build communities here. In return, he expects us to basically agree with or assent to his mission. Or at least, not rub our disagreement in his face in a public way.

It’s still his place.

I’m sure you don’t have a problem with his being kind and generous towards us.

In return, we should respect his wishes and opinions, and behave ourselves in appropriate matters. If we have major disagreements with his mission statement, we shouldn’t really be talking politics here out of respect.


I thought the FR mission I read was conservatism ill-defined. What is the true definition of this broad abstract term? Are we talking conservative lesbians or conservative nuns? Are we talking Birchite conservatism, Goldwater conservatism, Reagan conservatism, Stormfront nazis, or Rockefeller Fabianists? And social conservatives concern theoanomy or libertarianism? And which religion is the true religion when we are talking about religious conservatives? Please tell us Jim’s religious affiliation that we might join en masse. Preach it Knitting, preach it on high that we may be witnessed to.

BTW, at the risk of approaching the subject from Jim’s point of view, let us see how Jim felt about a certain candidate back in 2001:

Re: “So, it doesn’t matter if he snorted coke as a youth? It was a long time ago, a youthful indiscretion? Kinda like people who frequented sneakeasies during prohibition? Kind of a cute story, eh? Well, how about all the people whose lives have been destroyed by being arrested for the felony of drug possession? What about the millions of people who are rotting away in your filthy drug infested prisons at this very moment? Well, by God, if you people insist on electing another cokehead as President, you damned well better throw open all the prison cell doors and free every man, woman, and child you’re holding on drug charges. And if you’re gonna elect another drug felon as President, you’d better rescind each and every one of your unconstitutional drug laws now on the books, including all of your unconstitutional search and seizure laws, and your asset forfeiture laws, and your laws that enable your unconstitutional snooping into our bank accounts and cash transactions. Well, I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. You people are sick! Conservatives my ass. You people are nothing but a bunch of non-thinking hypocrits! You’re a shame and a disgrace to the Republic! And, I, for one, am tired of taking orders from cokeheads and felons! Elect another one and I’ll tell you what. I’ll be ready for war! It’ll be time to take up arms and run the filthy lying bastards out!” - Jim Robinson 2001 concerning Texas Governor George W. Bush

So by your definition, supporting Dubya was anathema until Jim saw the wind blow differently. Afterward, a few that dare comment that Dubya was a liberal or post Jim’s quote were summarily banned. What will happen Knitting A Conundrum when Rudy is elected? Will you recall the rants and the bannings from this thread as you perform a zot fest on an anti-Rudy Freeper?

Truly, when will this insanity end???


Major hit list of the Free Republic that may cause you to be banned (walk lightly because they read your FReep-mail accounts)

IPW (Internet Porn Whores—for no reason whatsoever other than fun)
Evolution/Science
Libertarian
Anyone that supports Rudy
Agnostics/skeptics
Anyone French


what next?

South Park Republicans/Conservatives (better believe the theocons and O.C.-Old Cracker types are begging for a new ban-a-thon)
Mormons (holy crap Mormon threads make Crevo threads look tame)
Followers of ABBA (i personally want those Swedish-loving assclowns banned forever FOREVER ZOT THEM I SAY!)


11,254 posted on 04/26/2007 3:14:37 PM PDT by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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To: RunningWolf; eeevil conservative
LOL! Yep! Me Too!

Tinfoil Forever!

11,255 posted on 04/26/2007 3:18:38 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: sully777

Well said. Very well said.


11,256 posted on 04/26/2007 3:18:56 PM PDT by Maximus of Texas (On my signal, pull my finger.)
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To: sully777

*applause*


11,257 posted on 04/26/2007 3:19:29 PM PDT by Wormwood
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To: metmom

Maybe while you’re spying on the DC you may take time out to actually study the subject matter.


11,258 posted on 04/26/2007 3:19:39 PM PDT by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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To: metmom
"provable evolutionary science"

New spin-off from the CSI franchise?
11,259 posted on 04/26/2007 3:23:18 PM PDT by Maximus of Texas (On my signal, pull my finger.)
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To: Dog Gone; Hildy

“I read Jim’s original post, but I’ve also read all the following posts.

It doesn’t bother me if this place is purged of liberals, but I think that net has been spread pretty wide.

And there is fundraising going on in this thread. I’m not blind.”

When you have people like Hildy threatening to hurt Jim Robinson’s lifestyle in the pocketbook, certainly some of us that support the conservative mission of this website will stand up and take up any slack? You have a problem with that? OR do you endorse this behavior?


11,260 posted on 04/26/2007 3:24:02 PM PDT by commonguymd (Move it to the right)
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