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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Peach

“when other candidates do it, they’re pandering.”

If Rudy had changed his position on abortion, say 3 years ago, and was very public about it it might fly. In the middle of a campaign, I don’t think so...


1,041 posted on 04/21/2007 10:59:59 PM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: Howlin
And it's going to be Republicans that elect the next president.

Like they did a Congress in '06?
1,042 posted on 04/21/2007 11:00:23 PM PDT by Just sayin (Is is what it is, for if it was anything else, it would be isn't.)
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To: dragnet2; Peach

1,043 posted on 04/21/2007 11:00:36 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: politicalwit; donna
I am sincerely afraid to vote for a man with cancer, no matter how not serious,

So you've ruled out Fred and Rudy, correct?

Well, if we are ruling nominees out for that reason let's not forget that the dimwit nutjob McCain had melanoma skin cancer.

1,044 posted on 04/21/2007 11:00:55 PM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

I forgot about that. That was funny.


1,045 posted on 04/21/2007 11:01:23 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Peach

how has rudy changed on abortion?


1,046 posted on 04/21/2007 11:01:25 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: Jim Robinson
I hope some sort of POTUS team emerges that is composed of Duncan Hunter, Fred Thompson, Oliver North (not necessarily in that order) and maybe a few others not on the radar screen right now.

If that does not happen and a Rudy based team gets it, I don't know what I will do when voting day comes.

1,047 posted on 04/21/2007 11:01:38 PM PDT by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: Just sayin

No, they’ve learned their lesson about your sit at homers.


1,048 posted on 04/21/2007 11:02:08 PM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Doing a profile search, I still get: Nobody by that name. Weird.


1,049 posted on 04/21/2007 11:02:25 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: donna

From what I’ve read FDT is more likely to die of old age / natural causes than he is of his type of cancer.


1,050 posted on 04/21/2007 11:02:42 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: Peach
>>>>>You’ve repeatedly posted that Rudy is a gun grabbing, abortionist loving, gay marriage supporting liberal....

'Cause its the truth!

>>>>> ..... without mentioning his outstanding fiscal conservative positions and tax cutting policies ...

When Rudy left office, he left NYCity straddled with a $2.0 billion deficit and an increased debt reaching $42 billion. Rudy didn't reduce the size of the city government. Rudy added 15,000 new teachers to the city employment rolls, making the NEA and the AFT very happy.

When Rudy left office NYCity was still the highest taxed big city in America. A liberal-socialist hell hole.

>>>>> .... and his strength in terms of national security and hating the Arab jihadists.

LMBO You've got to be joking. Rudy has no special talents or abilities in the area of natl defense or natl security. And lotsa Americans hate the Jihadists!

1,051 posted on 04/21/2007 11:03:08 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Peach

Illegal immigration and the 2nd amendment have nothing to do with social issues.


1,052 posted on 04/21/2007 11:03:43 PM PDT by gpapa
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To: narses

Those who may support a Republican nominee that you are against will not be supporting infanticide, Einstein.


1,053 posted on 04/21/2007 11:03:47 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: Just sayin

LOL. Too many around here would like to forget that.


1,054 posted on 04/21/2007 11:03:47 PM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: rockrr; Peach; PhiKapMom
Peach has been deliberatively provacative and increasingly harsh and insulting in her attacks for several days now. The anti-rudy people have gotten pretty nasty, and the pro-rudy people are getting exasperated with that, along with their inability to make ANY headway in convincing conservatives to vote for RUdy.

THe love affair of conservatives with Fred Thompson is the last straw I think for them, they expected we'd have to fall in line with no good conservatives getting any traction (BTW, something that they are working hard to maintain, trashing every conservative whenever there's any movement).

They didn't see Fred coming, and now he's viable and they are trying to knock him down but not succeeding. And they have gotten increasingly harsh about it, saying more stupid things by the day. And they are bitter because they don't understand how a person like Fred Thompson who is not 100% conservative is getting all the love from conservatives while their Rudy, who they love, can't get any traction.

I don't know what it is about Rudy that attracts them, especially the women (PhiKapMom was nearly swooning with exitement over having been in the same room with Rudy, that was in her last post to the site before she ran off without being banned).

1,055 posted on 04/21/2007 11:03:59 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: AntiGuv

I keep forgetting about John Ketting McCain.


1,056 posted on 04/21/2007 11:04:07 PM PDT by politicalwit (Family values don't stop at the border...but Federal laws do.)
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To: politicalwit
I'll be more than happy to banish all thought of McCain, but only after he doesn't get the nomination..
1,057 posted on 04/21/2007 11:05:18 PM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: calex59
Well, Jim, since most of your polls show that the majority of us DON’T want Rudy the Rino for president I don’t think you have to worry about us embracing socialism.

I believe you've come to the wrong conclusion regarding the FR poll.  I voted for Fred Thompson in this poll but I will vote for whoever is the Republican nominee. Most of us would prefer a conservative candidate but staying home or voting third party is out of the question.  No way will I put Hillary in charge of our military.  NO WAY!

1,058 posted on 04/21/2007 11:05:29 PM PDT by scratcher
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To: Jim Robinson
You are becoming creepier every day.


1,059 posted on 04/21/2007 11:05:29 PM PDT by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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To: wku man

LOL!! Are you going to join the All New Idaho FR Ping List or will this be contingent on us hiring Gruden back? ;)


1,060 posted on 04/21/2007 11:05:34 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (FReepmail me to join the all new Idaho Ping List.)
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