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Posted on 07/26/2006 1:11:31 PM PDT by blam

Tocharians

The Tocharians were the easternmost speakers of an Indo-European language in antiquity, inhabiting the Tarim basin in what is now Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, northwestern People's Republic of China. Their unique culture spanned from the 1st millennium BCE to the end of the 1st millennium CE. Their language is called Tocharian.

Archaeology

The Tarim mummies suggest that precursors of these easternmost speakers of an Indo-European language may have lived in the region of the Tarim Basin from around 1800 BCE until finally they were assimilated by Uyghur Turks in the 9th century CE.

"Tocharian donors", possibly the "Knights with Long Swords" of Chinese accounts, depicted with light hair and light eye color and dressed in Sassanian style. 6th century CE fresco, Qizil, Tarim Basin. Graphical analysis reveals that the third donor from left is performing a Buddhist vitarka mudra. These frescoes are associated with annotations in Tocharian and Sanskrit made by their painters.There is evidence both from the mummies and Chinese writings that many of them had blonde or red hair and blue eyes, characteristics also found in present-day Afghanistan, Pakistan, Tajikistan and Central Asia, due to the populations' high genetic diversity. This suggests the possibility that they were part of an early migration of speakers of Indo-European languages that ended in what is now the Tarim Basin in western China. According to a controversial theory, early invasions by Turkic speakers may have pushed Tocharian speakers out of the Tarim Basin and into modern Afghanistan, India, Turkmenistan, Pakistan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan."

The Tarim Basin mummies (1800 BCE) and the Tocharian texts and frescoes from the Tarim Basin (800 CE) have been found in the same general geographical area, and are both connected to an Indo-European origin. The faces on these frescos were usually vandalized in the past due to their "European" features. The mummies and the frescoes both point to Caucasian types with light eyes and hair color. There is no evidence that directly connects them however, as no texts were recovered from the grave sites.

A recent article (Hemphill and Mallory, 2004) reaches the following conclusions:

This study confirms the assertion of Han [1998] that the occupants of Alwighul and Krorän are not derived from proto-European steppe populations, but share closest affinities with Eastern Mediterranean populations. Further, the results demonstrate that such Eastern Mediterraneans may also be found at the urban centers of the Oxus civilization located in the north Bactrian oasis to the west. Affinities are especially close between Krorän, the latest of the Xinjiang samples, and Sapalli, the earliest of the Bactrian samples, while Alwighul and later samples from Bactria exhibit more distant phenetic affinities. This pattern may reflect a possible major shift in interregional contacts in Central Asia in the early centuries of the second millennium BC. However, another theory states that the earliest Bronze Age settlers of the Tarim and Turpan basins originated from the steppelands and highlands immediately north of East Central Asia. These colonists were related to the Afanasievo culture which exploited both open steppelands and upland environments employing a mixed agricultural economy. The Afanasievo culture formed the eastern linguistic periphery of the Indo-European continuum of languages whose centre of expansion lay much farther to the west, north of the Black and Caspian seas. This periphery was ancestral to the historical Tocharian languages. See J. P. Mallory and Victor H. Mair, The Tarim Mummies — 2000 Thames and Hudson Ltd ISBN 0-500-05101-1.

Textile analysis has shown some similarities to the Iron Age civilizations of Europe dating from 800BC, including woven twill and tartan patterns strikingly similar to Celtic tartans from Northwest Europe. One of the unusual finds with one of the mummies was a classical pointy hat, worn by some European cultures in Ancient and Medieval times, suggesting very ancient Indo-European roots for this tradition. The female mummies also wore the same kind of skirts as have been found preserved in graves from the Nordic Bronze Age.

Language

Main article: Tocharian languages

Wooden plate with inscriptions in the Tocharian language. Kucha, China, 5th-8th century. Tokyo National Museum.

The Tocharians appear to have originally spoken two distinct languages of the Indo-European Tocharian family, an Eastern ("A") form and a Western ("B") form. According to some, only the Eastern ("A") form can be properly called "Tocharian", as the native name for the Western form is referred to as Kuchean (see below). Commonalities between the Tocharian languages and various other Indo-European language families (as with Germanic, Balto-Slavic, even Italic or Greek) have been suggested, but the evidence does not support any close relationship with any other family. The only consensus is that Tocharian was already far enough removed, at an early date, from the other eastern I-E proto-languages (Proto-Balto-Slavic and Proto-Indo-Iranian), not to share some of the common changes that PBS and PII share, such as early palatalization of velars.

Tocharian A of the eastern regions seems to have declined in use as a popular language or mother tongue faster than did Tocharian B of the west. Tocharian A speakers probably yielded their original language to Turkic languages of immigrating Turkic peoples, while Tocharian B speakers were more insulated from outside linguistic influences. It appears that Tocharian A ultimately became a liturgical language, no longer a living one, at the same time that Tocharian B was still widely spoken in daily life. Among the monasteries of the lands inhabited by Tocharian B speakers, Tocharian A seems to have been used in ritual alongside the Tocharian B of daily life.

Besides the religious Tocharian texts, the texts include monastery correspondence and accounts, commercial documents, caravan permits, medical and magical texts, and a love poem. Their manuscript fragments, of the 8th centuries, suggest that they were no longer either as nomadic or "barbaric" as the Chinese had considered them.

Historic role

Blue-eyed Central Asian (Tocharian?) and East-Asian Buddhist monks, Bezaklik, Eastern Tarim Basin, 9th-10th century.

The Tocharians, living along the Silk Road, had contacts with the Chinese and Persians, and Turkic, Indian and Iranian tribes. They might be the same as, or were related to, the Indo-European Yuezhi who fled from their settlements in Gansu under attacks from the Xiongnu in the 2nd century BCE (Shiji Chinese historical Chronicles, Chap. 123) and expanded south to Bactria and northern India to form the Kushan Empire.

The Tocharians who remained in the Tarim Bassin adopted Buddhism, which, like their alphabet, came from northern India in the first century of the 1st millennium, through the proselytism of Kushan monks. The Kushans and the Tocharians seem to have played a part in the Silk Road transmission of Buddhism to China. Many apparently also practised some variant of Manichaeanism.

Protected by the Taklamakan desert from steppe nomads, the Tocharian culture survived past the 7th century. The Kingdom of Khotan was one of the centers of this ancient civilization.

Naming

The term Tocharians has a somewhat complicated history. It is based on the ethnonym Tokharoi (Greek Τόχαροι) used by Greek historians (e.g. Ptolemy VI, 11, 6). The first mention of the Tocharians appeared in the 1st century BCE, when Strabo presented them as a Scythian tribe, and explained that the Tokharians — together with the Assianis, Passianis and Sakaraulis — took part in the destruction of the Greco-Bactrian kingdom in the second half of the 2nd century BCE:

"Most of the Scythians, beginning from the Caspian Sea, are called Dahae Scythae, and those situated more towards the east Massagetae and Sacae; the rest have the common appellation of Scythians, but each separate tribe has its peculiar name. All, or the greatest part of them, are nomads. The best known tribes are those who deprived the Greeks of Bactriana, the Asii, Pasiani, Tochari, and Sacarauli, who came from the country on the other side of the Jaxartes, opposite the Sacae and Sogdiani." (Strabo, 11-8-1) These Tochari are identified with the Yuezhi and one of their major tribes, the Kushans. The geographical term Tokharistan usually refers to 1st millennium Bactria (Chinese Daxia 大夏).

Today, the term is associated with the Indo-European languages known as "Tocharian". Based on a Turkic reference to Tocharian A as twqry, these languages were associated with the Kushan ruling class, but the exact relation of the speakers of these languages and the Kushan Tokharoi is uncertain, and some consider "Tocharian languages" a misnomer. Tocharian A is also known as East Tocharian, or Turfanian (of the city of Turfan), and Tocharian B is also known as West Tocharian, or Kuchean (of the city of Kucha)

The term is so widely used, however, that this question is somewhat academic. Tocharians in the modern sense are, then, defined as the speakers of the Tocharian languages. These were originally nomads, and lived in today's Xinjiang (Tarim basin). The native name of the historical Tocharians of the 6th to 8th centuries was, according to J. P. Mallory, possibly kuśiññe "Kuchean" (Tocharian B), "of the kingdom of Kucha and Agni", and ārśi (Tocharian A); one of the Tocharian A texts has ārśi-käntwā, "In the tongue of Arsi" (ārśi is probably cognate to argenteus, i.e. "shining, brilliant"). According to Douglas Q. Adams, the Tocharians may have called themselves ākñi, meaning "borderers, marchers".

Tocharians in Indian Literature

The Ancient Sanskrit literature refers to Tocharians as Tusharas, Tukharas, Tokharas and Tuharas etc. There are numerous references to this people in the ancient Sanskrit texts. E.g:

Atharavaveda Parisista (Ed Bolling & Negelein, 41.3.3) associates the Tusharas with the Sakas,Yavanas and the Bahilkas. (Saka. Yavana.Tushara.Bahlikashcha). Atharvaveda-Parisia also juxtaposes the Kambojas with the Bahlikas (Kamboja-Bahlika..., AV-Par, 57.2.5; cf Persica-9, 1980, p 106, Dr Michael Witzel). This shows the Tusharas probably were neighbors to the Shakas, Bahlikas, Yavanas and the Kambojas in Transoxian region.

The Santi Parva of Mahabharata associates the Tusharas with the Yavanas, Kiratas, Gandharas, Chinas, Kambojas, Pahlavas, Kankas, Sabaras, Barbaras, Ramathas etc. and brands them all as Barbaric tribes of Uttarapatha, leading lives of Dasyus (MBH 12.65.13-15).

Sabha Parva of Mahabharata (Chapters 48-50) states that kings of the Kambojas, Sakas , Tukharas, Kankas and Romakas etc had brought with them as tribute camels, horses, elephants and gold on the occasion of Rajasuya Yajna performed by Yudhisthira at Hastinapura. Later the Tusharas, Sakas and Yavanas had joined the military division of the Kambojas and had participated in the Mahabharata war on Kauravas' side (MBH 6.66.17-21; MBH 8.88.17). Karna Parva of Mahabharata describes the Tusharas as very ferocious and wrathful warriors.

At one place in Mahabharata, the Tusharas find mention with the Shakas and the Kankas (Shakas.Tusharah.Kankascha). At another place they come with the Shakas, Kankas and Pahlavas (Shakas Tusharah Kankashch.Pahlavashcha). And at other places they come with the Shakas, Yavanas and the Kambojas (Shaka.Tushara.Yavanashcha sadinah sahaiva.Kambojavaraijidhansavah) OR (Kritavarma tu sahitah Kambojarvarai.Bahlikaih...Tushara.Yavanashchaiva.Shakashcha saha Chulikaih) etc.

Puranic texts like Vayu Purana, Brahamanda Purana and Vamana Purana etc associates the Tusharas with the Shakas, Barbaras, Kambojas, Daradas, Viprendras, Anglaukas, Yavanas, Pahlavas etc and refer to them all as the tribes of Udichya i.e. north or north-west (Brahmanda Purana 27.46-48).

Puranic literature further states that the Tusharas and other tribes like Gandharas, Shakas, Pahlavas, Kambojas, Paradas, Yavanas, Barbaras, Khasa, Lampakas etc would be invaded and annhilated by King Kaliki at the end of Kaliyuga. And they were annhilated by king Pramiti at the end of Kaliyga (Vayu I.58.78-83; cf: Matsya 144.51-58).

According to Vayu Purana and Matsya Purana, river Chakshu (Oxus or Amu Darya) flowed through the countries of Tusharas, Lampakas, Pahlavas, Paradas and the Shakas etc (Vayu Purana I.58.78-83).

The Brihat-Katha-Manjari (10/1/285-86) of Pt Kshmendra relates that around 400 AD, Gupta king Vikramaditya (Chandragupta II) had "unburdened the sacred earth by destroying the barbarians" like the Tusharas, Shakas, Mlecchas, Kambojas, Yavanas, Parasikas, Hunas etc.

Rajatrangini of Kalhana attests that king Laliditya Muktapida, the eighth century ruler of Kashmir had invaded the tribes of the north and after defeating the Kambojas, he immediately faced the Tusharas. The Tusharas did not give a fight but fled to the mountain ranges leaving their horses in the battle field (RT IV.165-166). This shows that during 8th century AD, a section of the Tusharas were living as neighbors of the Kambojas near the Oxus valley.

But sixth century AD Brhatsamhita of Vrahamihira also locates the Tusharas with Barukachcha (Bhroach) and Barbaricum (on the Indus Delta) near sea in western India (bharukaccha.samudra.romaka.tushrah.. :Brhatsamhita XVI.6). The Romakas was a colony of the Romans near the port of Barbaricum in Sindhu Delta (see comments: Dr M. R Singh in The Geographical Data of Early Purana, 1972, p 26). This shows that a section of the Tusharas had also moved to western India and was living there around Vrahamihira's time.

Going out of the Iron Pass, seventh century AD Chinese pilgrim Hiun Tsang had entered Tu-huo-lo (Tushara) country which lied to the north of the great snow mountains (Hindukush), to the south of Iron Pass and to the east of Persia. During Hiun Tsang’s times, country of Tushara was divided into 27 administrative units, each having its separate chieftain. The Kumitos of Hiun Tsang's accounts (or the Kumijis of Al-Maqidisi) appear to be Kambojas who were living neigbors to the Tusharas across the Hindukush in the Oxus valley.

The tenth century AD Kavyamimamsa of Rajsheikher lists the Tusharas with several other tribes of the Uttarapatha viz: the Shakas, Kekeyas, Vokkanas, Hunas, Kambojas, Bahlikas, Pahlavas, Limpakas, Kulutas, Tanganas, Turushakas, Barbaras, Ramathas etc. (See: Kavyamimamsa, Chaper 17). This attests that the Tusharas were different from the Turushakas with whom they are often confused by some writers.

There is also a mention of Tushara-Giri (Tushara mountain) in the Mahabharata, Harshacharita of Bana Bhata and Kavyamimansa of Rajshekhar.

The Rishikas are said to be same people as the Yuezhis (Dr V. S. Aggarwala, K. D. Sethna). The Kushanas or Kanishkas are also the same people (Dr J. C. Vidyalnkara). Prof Stein says that the Tukharas (Tokharois/Tokarais) were a branch of the Yue-chi or Yuezhi. Thus, the Rishikas (q.v.), Tusharas/Tukharas (Tokharoi/Tokaroi) and the Yuezhis probably were either same or an allied people.


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To: dljordan

Only in spirit ( or spirits).


61 posted on 07/27/2006 8:52:03 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: NC28203
Again, not all practitioners of this science have Christian roots.

I don't follow the Roman gods and yet I use the word "June" to describe the 6th month. I don't follow the Norse gods and yet I use the words "Thursday" and "Friday" to describe days of the week.

Why do I do that when I don't follow the religions who named them? Because of continuity with the rest of the world.

Likewise all scientists who lacked Christian roots used the Gregorian calender, and it's breaking point of BC/AD, since 1582 (most of Europe) or 1752 (Britain and it's colonies). Only in the last few decades has the use of BCE/CE come into practice.

Ironic because the breaking point was the historic birth of Christ, which was the whole event anti-Christians were trying to ignore by changing the nomenclature. So I guess what brought us into the "Common Era" was the birth of Jesus, right?

62 posted on 07/27/2006 8:54:21 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: blam

"Oppenheimer says that his DNA studies indicate that about 50% of todays Europeans can trace their DNA to one man in the Indus valley "

Must have been a busy guy.

And that was BEFORE Viagra!!


63 posted on 07/27/2006 8:54:27 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: blam

"I'd hit it!"


64 posted on 07/27/2006 8:54:57 AM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: blam

Bringing this current..... is Al Doury the redheaded, uncaptured associate of Saddam a Tocharian?


65 posted on 07/27/2006 8:55:41 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: NC28203

What's the difference, from a theological perspective, between "Before Christ" and "Before the Common Era" when BOTH are based on the same event reference?

Perosnally, I don't care if you use BAB for Before the Atom Bomb and AAB for After the Atom Bomb, but most of the docuement prepared on history have used BC and AC and it does take up one last letter and is a lot short to say than "Before the Common Era."

Maybe we SHOULD use BAB and AAB.

By the way, what was the year 1 in the Jewish Calendar supposedly based on, the creation of the world? How was that figure originally computed?


66 posted on 07/27/2006 8:59:27 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: humblegunner

BV.

Before Viagra.


67 posted on 07/27/2006 9:00:16 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Centurion2000

Re post #28 photo: That thing looks like the villain in the new PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN movie.


68 posted on 07/27/2006 9:36:48 AM PDT by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: ZULU

>>>What's the difference, from a theological perspective, between "Before Christ" and "Before the Common Era" when BOTH are based on the same event reference?

Because the word Christ has very specific meaning theologically, The Anointed One. The Greek word Xristos has been used since pre-Christian times to translate the Hebrew word Messiah. Jews do not acknowledge Jesus to be the Messiah. BCE can acknowledge a common historical figure without acknowledging divinity.


69 posted on 07/27/2006 9:46:10 AM PDT by NC28203
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

>>>Ironic because the breaking point was the historic birth of Christ, which was the whole event anti-Christians were trying to ignore by changing the nomenclature. So I guess what brought us into the "Common Era" was the birth of Jesus, right?

That is correct. The question of BC vs BCE revolves around his divinity. BC acknowledges it while BCE recognizes Jesus as an historical figure.


70 posted on 07/27/2006 9:48:07 AM PDT by NC28203
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To: ZULU
What's the difference, from a theological perspective, between "Before Christ" and "Before the Common Era" when BOTH are based on the same event reference?

No, they're different.
Jesus was born either around 6 BCE or 6 CE.
The earlier date comes from Matthew -- Jesus was born 2 years before Herod the Great died in 4BCE. The later date is from Luke -- Jesus was born during the tax census when Rome dismissed Herod Archelaus (Herod's son) and Judea became a province under direct Roman control.

So we have the choice of a Christ "Before Christ" or the "year of the Lord" (AD) before he was born. Neither one makes sense.

The principle of least effort (POLE) dictates that you leave the dates alone and recognize that the starting point has nothing to do with the birth of Christ.

... use BAB for Before the Atom Bomb and AAB for After the Atom Bomb ...

I can go with that -- although my personal favorite is AA and PA (ante Alexander and post Alexander)

71 posted on 07/27/2006 9:53:10 AM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: ZULU

>>>By the way, what was the year 1 in the Jewish Calendar supposedly based on, the creation of the world? How was that figure originally computed?

The year number on the Jewish calendar represents the number of years since creation. I'm not sure if the counting started with Adam or if it was calculated by adding up the ages of people in the Bible back to the time of creation at some point since then.


72 posted on 07/27/2006 9:53:21 AM PDT by NC28203
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To: NC28203

I was going to say how about Before Jesus then, but thought better of the abbreviation.


73 posted on 07/27/2006 9:55:35 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: dread78645

I guess you are an Alexander the Great man.

I kind of liked Genghis Khan - he had a way with Muslims I kind of admire.


74 posted on 07/27/2006 9:58:09 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU
I guess you are an Alexander the Great man.

I kind of liked Genghis Khan -

Yep. I'm kinda partial to Alexander but I used him as the example 'cause his birth-date is fairly certain. Of course being the offspring of Zeus doesn't hurt either ...

Can Jenghis Xa say that?

75 posted on 07/27/2006 10:13:14 AM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: bert
"Bringing this current..... is Al Doury the redheaded, uncaptured associate of Saddam a Tocharian?"

Possibly. So may you and I.

76 posted on 07/27/2006 10:20:50 AM PDT by blam
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To: dread78645

No, but he conquered more territory. I don't think the date of his birth is certain, but neither is Christ's.


77 posted on 07/27/2006 10:33:12 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: NC28203

"Before Christ" recognizes his divinity to those who are not Christian? Does "Thursday" mean that we recognize the divinity of Thor?


78 posted on 07/27/2006 10:49:24 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

As I noted in post #69, the term Christ has a very specific meaning, The Anointed One. As far as Jews are considered, the current peiod of time is BC since they do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah. You can refer to Thursday (Thor's day), but that has no meaning theologically. Before Christ has a definite meaning.


79 posted on 07/27/2006 10:59:02 AM PDT by NC28203
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To: blam
Why is this thread here?

But then, why am I on this thread?

80 posted on 07/27/2006 11:05:03 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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