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King David's Palace Is Found, Archaeologist Says
New York Times ^ | August 5, 2005 | STEVEN ERLANGER

Posted on 08/05/2005 11:51:57 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

An Israeli archaeologist says she has uncovered in East Jerusalem what may be the fabled palace of the biblical King David. Her work has been sponsored by a conservative Israeli research institute and financed by an American Jewish investment banker who would like to prove that Jerusalem was indeed the capital of the Jewish kingdom described in the Bible.

Other scholars are skeptical that the foundation walls discovered by the archaeologist, Eilat Mazar, are David's palace. But they acknowledge that what she has uncovered is rare and important: a major public building from around the 10th century B.C., with pottery shards that date to the time of David and Solomon and a government seal of an official mentioned in the book of Jeremiah.

The discovery is likely to be a new salvo in a major dispute in biblical archaeology: whether the kingdom of David was of some historical magnitude, or whether the kings were more like small tribal chieftains, reigning over another dusty hilltop.

The find will also be used in the broad political battle over Jerusalem - whether the Jews have their origins here and thus have some special hold on the place, or whether, as many Palestinians have said, including the late Yasir Arafat, the idea of a Jewish origin in Jerusalem is a myth used to justify conquest and occupation.

Hani Nur el-Din, a Palestinian professor of archaeology at Al Quds University, said he and his colleagues considered biblical archaeology an effort by Israelis "to fit historical evidence into a biblical context." He added: "The link between the historical evidence and the biblical narration, written much later, is largely missing. There's a kind of fiction about the 10th century. They try to link whatever they find to the biblical narration. ...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Israel; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bible; cary; christianity; david; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; godsgravesglyps; history; israel; jerusalem; judaism; kingdavid; palace; zionism
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1 posted on 08/05/2005 11:51:59 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

Wow!


2 posted on 08/05/2005 11:53:43 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: West Coast Conservative

BUMP-I think these finds are just so awesome !


3 posted on 08/05/2005 11:53:58 AM PDT by Texans
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To: West Coast Conservative
or whether, as many Palestinians have said, including the late Yasir Arafat, the idea of a Jewish origin in Jerusalem is a myth

And the fact that they print this with a (typographical) straight face tells you all about the NYT.

4 posted on 08/05/2005 11:54:28 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Liberals: Too stupid to realize Dick Cheney is the real Dark Lord.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Only Goes to Show that the Word of GOD is IR-REFUTABLE evidence of What Truly Is and Was.


5 posted on 08/05/2005 11:55:25 AM PDT by ExcursionGuy84 ("I will Declare the Beauty of The LORD.")
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To: Tax-chick

I would say that the idea of an unbiased NY Slimes story is certainly a myth!


6 posted on 08/05/2005 11:56:57 AM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Carnac: A siren, a baby and a liberal. Answer: Name three things that whine.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Wow, this is an incredible find!


7 posted on 08/05/2005 11:57:01 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping


8 posted on 08/05/2005 11:57:17 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: West Coast Conservative
The find will also be used in the broad political battle over Jerusalem - whether the Jews have their origins here and thus have some special hold on the place, or whether, as many Palestinians have said, including the late Yasir Arafat, the idea of a Jewish origin in Jerusalem is a myth used to justify conquest and occupation.

Oh please, Jewish origin in Jerusalem is a myth. Eye rolling.

9 posted on 08/05/2005 11:57:44 AM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: NoCmpromiz; Darkchylde

ping


10 posted on 08/05/2005 11:58:39 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

And not only that, the dependent clause "including the late ..." is misplaced.


11 posted on 08/05/2005 11:58:42 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Liberals: Too stupid to realize Dick Cheney is the real Dark Lord.)
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To: Tax-chick

Come on. Everyone knows King David was a good Muslim.
I'm just waiting for them to find the ruins of his mosque. . .


12 posted on 08/05/2005 12:00:19 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: Tax-chick

Tax-chick, you've nailed it. For the benefit of those on this board who may not know it, the Jews have been praying about returning to Jerusalem, every day, for 2000 years. When one Jew comforts another about a death in the family, the formula they're supposed to use says "May you comforted among the mourners for Zion and Jerusalem."
Those prayers weren't written, many centuries ago, just so the sneaky Jews could provide evidence in the year 2005 for their ploy to colonize and occupy the Middle East.
And then there's the little matter of the two Temples, part of which of course survives to this day. That wall is hard to dismiss as a myth too -- unless, of course, just as you say, the Times is as constrained by historical facts as Yassir Arafat.


13 posted on 08/05/2005 12:01:28 PM PDT by JOHN ADAMS
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To: CondorFlight

LOL!


14 posted on 08/05/2005 12:01:38 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Liberals: Too stupid to realize Dick Cheney is the real Dark Lord.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Great news and fit to make for an excellent Shabbat. Thanks!

PS interesting that it's the first of Av at sundown. For those not in the "know" the temple was repeatedly destroyed on the 9th - same day as the Gaza pullout


15 posted on 08/05/2005 12:03:26 PM PDT by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

This one comes very close.


16 posted on 08/05/2005 12:04:32 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Before getting too excited, people should know that this just a theory. Many digs are later revealed to be something else. As for me, if it is King David's palace that would be great. But if it's not, my postition on Israel is not based on the Bible. It's based on the fundamental rights of Israelis to live and live free of Islamic terror.


17 posted on 08/05/2005 12:05:10 PM PDT by golch1979 ("Captain Sobol, we solute the rank, not the man.")
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To: West Coast Conservative

Hani Nur el-Din, a Palestinian professor of archaeology at Al Quds University, said he and his colleagues considered biblical archaeology an effort by Israelis "to fit historical evidence into a biblical context." He added: "The link between the historical evidence and the biblical narration, written much later, is largely missing. There's a kind of fiction about the 10th century. They try to link whatever they find to the biblical narration. They have a button, and they want to make a suit out of it."

classic arabian tactic of flipping the truth on top of itself to cover their own lie. "see you are the liar" they say. it is the arabians account of "history" in all the land of Israel which is in doubt, not Jewish history.


18 posted on 08/05/2005 12:05:18 PM PDT by APRPEH (vision in the middle east without proper sunglasses results in blindness)
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To: CondorFlight
Arafat was once asked about the Temple Mount. He asked what temple? Where's the temple? I see a wall...there are many old walls. I see a mosque..but I do not see a Temple.

The Palestinians will not admit to the Temple Mount being the site of the 1st and 2nd Temples. They have even secretly excavated under the Al Aqsa Mosque trying to remove artifacts that might prove otherwise. Apparently archeologists followed trucks filled with debris to dumping areas where they began to reconstruct artifacts that had been disposed of by the Palestinians, those good and honorable people. (/s)

19 posted on 08/05/2005 12:05:51 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: West Coast Conservative
If this is indeed David's Palace I will take my Sinatra CD's and a few bottles of wine over for a celebration.
20 posted on 08/05/2005 12:06:06 PM PDT by devane617
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